#34fan Posted May 31, 2018 Posted May 31, 2018 8 hours ago, TakeYouToTasker said: Terrible agendas like maintaining the intellectual and moral culture which brought us the Enlightenment Yah sure, The Enlightenment. What about the thirty-year war that preceded it?. -You know... The one that killed nearly ten million ethno-Europeans... -Who's culture was that? Could it be the same intellectual and moral culture that brought you mustard gas, WWI, and 15 million more corpses? Why should we "maintain" above all, the same "moral" culture that brought us Auschwitz, Dachau, Babi Yar, Guernica, and Oradour Sur Glane,? Ancestral pride is one thing, but your Ethno-European highlight reel left ALOT of sh_tty scenes on the cutting-room floor. The next time you wanna wax-poetic about whitewashed, white-guy history, you should do it around people who don't know any. 8 hours ago, TakeYouToTasker said: Terrible agendas like maintaining the intellectual and moral culture which brought us the Enlightenment, incentivizing the nuclear family, promoting prosperity through economic growth, rejecting post-modernism as the destructive and regressive neo-Marxist agenda that it is, establishing global reforms which have a real chance to bring about a real and lasting peace through the denuclearization of North Korea, the overthrow of the Mulahs, and the reforming of the Saudi government, and working to reform the US intelligence apparatus restoring the protection of the individuals right to privacy and their Fourth Amendment protections, standing staunch in their insistence on safeguarding Constitutional protections guaranteed by the First and Second Amendment? More sing-song BS you couldn't get captain America himself to say. The woman in question, Tomi Lahren, unfortumately, got a glass of water thrown in her face. She'll be fine.... It's a far cry from a German Shepherd and a firehose.
Deranged Rhino Posted May 31, 2018 Posted May 31, 2018 3 minutes ago, #34fan said: Yah sure, The Enlightenment. What about the thirty-year war that preceded it?. -You know... The one that killed nearly ten million ethno-Europeans... -Who's culture was that? Could it be the same intellectual and moral culture that brought you mustard gas, WWI, and 15 million more corpses?
#34fan Posted May 31, 2018 Posted May 31, 2018 12 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: Careful. -He's a known....
KD in CA Posted May 31, 2018 Posted May 31, 2018 56 minutes ago, #34fan said: Careful. -He's a known.... He can be a douchebag, but that's only because he's usually running circles around some ignorant leftist who can't defend their rhetoric. 1
#34fan Posted May 31, 2018 Posted May 31, 2018 (edited) 39 minutes ago, KD in CA said: but that's only because he's usually running circles around some ignorant leftist who can't defend their rhetoric. That's the only kind of guest FOX books for that douchebag show. Edited May 31, 2018 by #34fan
Deranged Rhino Posted May 31, 2018 Posted May 31, 2018 2 hours ago, #34fan said: Careful. -He's a known.... Attempting to argue that the Enlightenment (a philosophical and intellectual movement, not a culture) somehow caused a war that preceded it and World War One proves one to be a douchebag.
KD in CA Posted May 31, 2018 Posted May 31, 2018 34 minutes ago, #34fan said: That's the only kind of guest FOX books for that douchebag show. Exactly. Where does he find these laughable buffoons?
njbuff Posted May 31, 2018 Posted May 31, 2018 44 minutes ago, #34fan said: That's the only kind of guest FOX books for that douchebag show. You obviously don’t watch his show to make that kinda of statement. You sound like someone who watches Don Lemon, who is the REAL douche bag on MSM.
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted May 31, 2018 Posted May 31, 2018 3 hours ago, njbuff said: You obviously don’t watch his show to make that kinda of statement. You sound like someone who watches Don Lemon, who is the REAL douche bag on MSM. Don Lemon is the perfect leftist poster boy: a black homosexual who toes the line
/dev/null Posted May 31, 2018 Author Posted May 31, 2018 3 hours ago, njbuff said: You obviously don’t watch his show to make that kinda of statement. You sound like someone who watches Don Lemon, who is the REAL douche bag on MSM. Not really fair to call Lemon a douche bag. Lemon hasn't been anywhere near a vagina in decades 1
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted May 31, 2018 Posted May 31, 2018 11 hours ago, Andrew in CA said: Sorry, i thought you were calling me an idiot. I went off on a bit of a tangent as you saw with my dialogue with JSP that i feel people resort to name-calling really quickly and that just gets everyone's guard up and derails any convo. Now, i did what i preached against and put words in your mouth so I'm sorry for that. In the hypothetical you pose yes, if someone is approaching TL with an object in his/her hand and is acting aggressively, then they are asking for a response from the bodyguard. Maybe i'm taking it to an extreme, but i think people have to face the consequences of their words, and those consequences aren't always going to be friendly. They can be hostile or rude. But i draw the line at assault (putting someone in fear of physical contact) and battery (actual physical contact), both because it's illegal and i think morally wrong -- respond to words with words (or boos, jeers, etc.), but don't touch someone or attempt to do so. And as JSP brought up i think it goes both ways. BLM protesters say and do a lot of provocative, controversial things. If they are out in public, people who disagree with them should be free to do so, and the BLM people should expect blowback/backlash. I think there is a tendency on the left to think you can say what you want, and because it's "speaking truth to power" or whatever, they think no one can respond to them. In other words, they think they can speak, and no one else can respond. I disagree with that. I guess when it comes down to it, my point is that when you take a stand, when you make yourself an object of attention (whether you make money off of it or not), people will react, both positively and negatively. I don't think you get a shield of armor or get to cry foul if people react to you with boos, silence, what have you, out in public. And I'm not saying that you were saying that (about Tomi/anyone else getting a shield of armor), I'm just circling back to my original post -- which, had i known would get a reaction, i would have elaborated on more fully. But i didn't, so now I am facing the some backlash of my clearly unpopular opinion, and that's OK, i get it, if you post, you get a response, and it's not always going to be one that agrees with you. You're a study in contrast. Rational, reasonable in response here, yet comfortable with people crossing what seems to be one of the most basic rules of civilized society just because they disagree with what someone says or thinks. I realize it's going to happen, I just don't see where it's acceptable to do so, or that a person should accept that it's a byproduct of some collection of the spoken word. In the end, basic rules should apply. A guy harasses __________, kick his ass out of the restaurant. If he gives you sh-t, call the police, though by all means let him use the bathroom before he goes. Dont sweat the need to elaborate, we're all a study in contrast. I think Leo DiCaprio is a world class hypocrite but damn it I really like most of his movies. 2 hours ago, /dev/null said: Not really fair to call Lemon a douche bag. Lemon hasn't been anywhere near a vagina in decades A+ effort there.
#34fan Posted May 31, 2018 Posted May 31, 2018 12 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said: Attempting to argue that the Enlightenment (a philosophical and intellectual movement, not a culture) somehow caused a war that preceded it and World War One proves one to be a douchebag. Ah, -So the REAL problem is, that you can't f__king read... In his post, TYTT accurately credited Europeans with the 70-80 year period of LIBERAL philosophies, and ideas known as the "enlightenment". His post got me misty-eyed reading the great contributions to Western society, until I remembered the actual, gruesome history of Europe. -A 5-century bloodbath with an "enlightenment break" before it picked right up again... Why is it wrong to temper alt-right adulation towards Euro culture with a little truth? 10 hours ago, joesixpack said: Don Lemon is the perfect leftist poster boy: I can't stand Don Lemon. 13 hours ago, KD in CA said: Exactly. Where does he find these laughable buffoons? Or Carlson, or Larry Elders.. As for Maxine Waters.... Thanks for killing any chance I had of getting a boner this weekend.
TakeYouToTasker Posted May 31, 2018 Posted May 31, 2018 10 minutes ago, #34fan said: In his post, TYTT accurately credited Europeans with the 70-80 year period of LIBERAL philosophies, and ideas known as the "enlightenment". Classically liberal philosophies, which today don't differ much from American libertarianism. I'm actually far better described as a cynical classical liberal than a libertarian if we're being overly specific. Modern American liberalism has almost nothing in common with the classical liberalism birthed by the Enlightenment. 1
Deranged Rhino Posted May 31, 2018 Posted May 31, 2018 42 minutes ago, #34fan said: Ah, -So the REAL problem is, that you can't f__king read... No, the problem is I read your drivel. You have the intellectual heft of a feather. 1
TakeYouToTasker Posted May 31, 2018 Posted May 31, 2018 52 minutes ago, #34fan said: Ah, -So the REAL problem is, that you can't f__king read... In his post, TYTT accurately credited Europeans with the 70-80 year period of LIBERAL philosophies, and ideas known as the "enlightenment". His post got me misty-eyed reading the great contributions to Western society, until I remembered the actual, gruesome history of Europe. -A 5-century bloodbath with an "enlightenment break" before it picked right up again... Why is it wrong to temper alt-right adulation towards Euro culture with Almost all of history for all cultures was absolutely barbaric. In most places in the world it still is. We live in an oasis which affords us the relative peace an prosperity we enjoy. It is the absolute height of ignorance to not recognize how the world has worked for the duration of human history, and to attribute the worlds ills to our European ancestors. The Europeans were no different than anyone else in their ambitions, they were just more technologically advanced at the time.
Deranged Rhino Posted May 31, 2018 Posted May 31, 2018 He's conflating a philosophical/intellectual movement and evolution which (transcends culture) with the culture - and military history of the continent... and he thinks he's making a dynamite point in the process. 34 is a fool, ignorant of basic definitions of simple words, let alone the nuances inherent in more complex philosophical discussions. And he proves it with each and every post he makes.
TakeYouToTasker Posted May 31, 2018 Posted May 31, 2018 8 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: He's conflating a philosophical/intellectual movement and evolution which (transcends culture) with the culture - and military history of the continent... and he thinks he's making a dynamite point in the process. 34 is a fool, ignorant of basic definitions of simple words, let alone the nuances inherent in more complex philosophical discussions. And he proves it with each and every post he makes. Ignorance works as a convenient airbrush. 1
#34fan Posted May 31, 2018 Posted May 31, 2018 29 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: He's conflating a philosophical/intellectual movement and evolution which (transcends culture) with the culture - and military history of the continent... and he thinks he's making a dynamite point in the process. 34 is a fool, ignorant of basic definitions of simple words, let alone the nuances inherent in more complex philosophical discussions. And he proves it with each and every post he makes. I'm glad your menstrual cycle is playing out for the entire board to see. I simply echoed the generalities TYTTY used to sum-up the effect of Euro-history on Western Values. He posted, what he posted... Let it stand.
Deranged Rhino Posted May 31, 2018 Posted May 31, 2018 2 minutes ago, #34fan said: I'm glad your menstrual cycle is playing out for the entire board to see. I simply echoed the generalities TYTTY used to sum-up the effect of Euro-history on Western Values. He posted, what he posted... Let it stand. I read what he posted. Then I read your response. You embarrassed yourself. He did not.
#34fan Posted May 31, 2018 Posted May 31, 2018 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: I read what he posted. Then I read your response. You embarrassed yourself. He did not. It's embarrassing how poorly the alt-right handles truth... What a bunch of babies. Edited May 31, 2018 by #34fan
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