Dante Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 3 hours ago, #34fan said: Thanks... I was looking for something else to boycott. As well as the indigenous populations white Europeans marginalized and/or enslaved, then systematically decimated. Now Europe is wary of the same fate... But again, it's too late... The birthrate among Muslims in the EU. is 2.6 children per pairing. -A full child ahead of non-muslims! -Out of 3.3 million Muslims living in the UK, Half are under the age of 25 One-third are under the age of 15! -They're younger, having more babies, and NOT leaving anytime soon. It was once thought that By 2050, the UK would be on the brink of a Muslim majority...... They've since pushed that date up to 2037.... Why not lay the ground rules now? -EVEN IF it shaves a little off what us Americans consider free speech? Respectfully selling western ideals to younger, more secular, Muslims is a good idea for countries like Germany, France, and the U.K. Throwing a wall up between themselves and close Muslim neighbors helps no one. 1 Called war isn't it? Seems everyone was going after everyone back in the day. If the indigenous had their shite together it might have been the other way around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#34fan Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 3 hours ago, Dante said: Called war isn't it? No, it isn't. It's called conquest, and colonization... War, is what happens when that sh_t gets old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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DC Tom Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 8 hours ago, #34fan said: No, it isn't. It's called conquest, and colonization... War, is what happens when that sh_t gets old. Good Lord, you're !@#$ing stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 On 5/29/2018 at 7:14 PM, #34fan said: I disagree with the media suppression, if it's any consolation... UK, and EU (especially) Angele Merkel handled this whole refugee crisis wrong. This is the classic "oh, well!" response the far left loves to see from it's casual supporters, to be followed by the unspoken "but we can't do anything differently because RAAAYYSIS!!!!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#34fan Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 5 hours ago, DC Tom said: Good Lord, you're !@#$ing stupid. Can I be smurt like you without the Nazi memorabilia? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 To 34, Books = memorabilia. Explains why you're consistently getting your ass handed to you in intellectual debates. You can learn from books - if you read them rather than burn them. Just a helpful hint. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 8 minutes ago, #34fan said: Can I be smurt like you without the Nazi memorabilia? Pretty sure the answer either way is "no." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 14 hours ago, #34fan said: No, it isn't. It's called conquest, and colonization... War, is what happens when that sh_t gets old. Whatever the name, it's pretty much nature taking its course. One society/culture develops faster than the other. A lot of nations/cultures really are better off being colonized. The average IQ in sub-Saharan Africa hovers around the 65 mark. Not really conducive to self-governing in a healthy way. Not conducive to having a productive, safe existence. South Africa is a friggen mess now. Someone has to take control. At least they get access to technology of the time, health care, food so they don't starve. Whoever is doing the colonizing gets whatever value they are after. Not racist or cruel. Just reality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#34fan Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 1 hour ago, Deranged Rhino said: Explains why you're consistently getting your ass handed to you in intellectual debates. . My, my, -are we still confusing alt/right Jackassery with intellectual debate? 5 dribbling four-year-olds show up to enforce their imaginary claim on the board, then resort to name calling when they can't dispatch an opponent. For all your bluster, you only succeed in boring me back to my daily tasks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 Just now, #34fan said: My, my, -are we still confusing alt/right Jackassery with intellectual debate? 5 dribbling four-year-olds show up to enforce their imaginary claim on the board, then resort to name calling when they can't dispatch an opponent. For all your bluster, you only succeed in boring me back to my daily tasks. Proving my point once again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#34fan Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Dante said: Whatever the name, it's pretty much nature taking its course. One society/culture develops faster than the other. A lot of nations/cultures really are better off being colonized. The average IQ in sub-Saharan Africa hovers around the 65 mark. Not really conducive to self-governing in a healthy way. Not conducive to having a productive, safe existence. South Africa is a friggen mess now. Someone has to take control. At least they get access to technology of the time, health care, food so they don't starve. Whoever is doing the colonizing gets whatever value they are after. Not racist or cruel. Just reality. You want to talk about South African reality? White farmers are on the verge of having their land confiscated without compensation. The white south African murder rate is many times the national average, and some have already been "evacuated" to Australia. In March, a 2018 statistic revealed a white farmer was killed every 5 days is South Africa. That's the ultimate reality of oppressive colonialism.... Sooner or later it leaves the colonizers in a position to be hacked to pieces by the oppressed. Edited May 31, 2018 by #34fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 22 hours ago, #34fan said: As well as the indigenous populations white Europeans marginalized and/or enslaved, then systematically decimated. Which was pretty much the way the entire world operated at the time, and really, still does today. Leviathan simply is. Governments, more than anything else, are consolidated monopolies of power, and when that degree of force is multiplied it will always be projected somewhere. During the Colonial era vast differences in technological advancement propelled Europe to the forefront, and they expanded outward, exerting their force. Now Europe is wary of the same fate... But again, it's too late... The birthrate among Muslims in the EU. is 2.6 children per pairing. -A full child ahead of non-muslims! -Out of 3.3 million Muslims living in the UK, Half are under the age of 25 One-third are under the age of 15! -They're younger, having more babies, and NOT leaving anytime soon. It was once thought that By 2050, the UK would be on the brink of a Muslim majority...... They've since pushed that date up to 2037.... Which is why they are having the fight they are having. It's why Tommy Robinson, and those like him, are so vitally important to the National identities and cultures of the European nations. Why not lay the ground rules now? -EVEN IF it shaves a little off what us Americans consider free speech? Respectfully selling western ideals to younger, more secular, Muslims is a good idea for countries like Germany, France, and the U.K. And this is why. They are laying the ground rules now, and the ground rules they are laying is: No, we will not live under any aspect of Sharia Law. We will live as a free people as our traditions dictate, and if you wish to live here, you will as well. Throwing a wall up between themselves and close Muslim neighbors helps no one. But locking human beings in cages for exercising their natural rights does? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 1 hour ago, TakeYouToTasker said: Which was pretty much the way the entire world operated at the time, and really, still does today. Leviathan simply is. Governments, more than anything else, are consolidated monopolies of power, and when that degree of force is multiplied it will always be projected somewhere. During the Colonial era vast differences in technological advancement propelled Europe to the forefront, and they expanded outward, exerting their force. I always like the "White Europeans enslaved Africans" narrative. Who the hell do people think sold the slaved to the Europeans? Hell, this is the first time in human history that slavery isn't considered acceptable. Records of slavery go back as far as records go back. People who treat it as an aberration of the human condition are massively ignorant. The current human condition is the aberration. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 (edited) 51 minutes ago, DC Tom said: I always like the "White Europeans enslaved Africans" narrative. Who the hell do people think sold the slaved to the Europeans? Hell, this is the first time in human history that slavery isn't considered acceptable. Records of slavery go back as far as records go back. People who treat it as an aberration of the human condition are massively ignorant. The current human condition is the aberration. Exactly. No one ever talks about how capturing slaves from rival tribes to sell to Europeans was the major industry in Africa during that time period. The other thing nobody ever talks about is black slave owners during the Antebellum era. Hell, the first slave owner in what is now considered America was black. Until he won a court case in which he refused to free an indentured servant after his period of servitude had expired, slavery didn't exist here. Edited May 31, 2018 by TakeYouToTasker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 2 hours ago, #34fan said: My, my, -are we still confusing alt/right Jackassery with intellectual debate? 5 dribbling four-year-olds show up to enforce their imaginary claim on the board, then resort to name calling when they can't dispatch an opponent. For all your bluster, you only succeed in boring me back to my daily tasks. Boy, Gregg's on a roll. Just one more thing to thank him for. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 43 minutes ago, TakeYouToTasker said: Exactly. No one ever talks about how capturing slaves from rival tribes to sell to Europeans was the major industry in Africa during that time period. You would think the US was the only country that had slavery. You guys are smart so you were probably aware however I wasn't until recently. "The enormity of the slave trade’s foothold in Brazil was so far-reaching, that the nation largely failed to develop an effective anti-slavery movement, even while many other nations around the world were making revolutionary reforms. Throughout the 1700s and early 1800s, slavery was being weeded out in the British Empire, North America, and France. Brazil, however, still had nearly one and a half million slaves with the number of slave imports only accelerating at 5.7%."4 https://exoduscry.com/blog/general/history-of-slavery-and-abolition-in-brazil/ The narrative that all slaves in the US were mistreated, tortured or worse doesn't really make sense if you think about it. If I'm a farmer paying a premium for a Cat or John Deere to help me harvest would I treat the equipment like crap so it broke down on me when I needed it? No way. Slaves were a significant investment. If you treated them like total shite no way you could get decent production out of them. Not saying they were treated like hotel guests just that it just doesn't add up that you would buy them just to abuse them. Also, most of the people in the south hated slavery because it lowered the price of labor. I mean to me this is common sense stuff that you just have to apply yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, #34fan said: You want to talk about South African reality? White farmers are on the verge of having their land confiscated without compensation. The white south African murder rate is many times the national average, and some have already been "evacuated" to Australia. In March, a 2018 statistic revealed a white farmer was killed every 5 days is South Africa. That's the ultimate reality of oppressive colonialism.... Sooner or later it leaves the colonizers in a position to be hacked to pieces by the oppressed. Remind me again of when apartheid ended? Also I thought black people couldnt be racist? hm. Edited June 1, 2018 by joesixpack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#34fan Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 (edited) 48 minutes ago, joesixpack said: Also I thought black people couldnt be racist? Not only can they be racist, they can also be incredibly pissed-off after 100 years of state-sanctioned brutality, marginalization, and displacement. 48 minutes ago, joesixpack said: Remind me again of when apartheid ended? Whites still owned and controlled 75% of the land as of 2016 It's a complex landscape, and has been one since "official" apartheid wrapped up in '94 The 2018 outcome is fear of a white genocide taking place in SA... I personally don't think it'll happen, but I sure wouldn't put any money on that. Edited June 1, 2018 by #34fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 1 hour ago, Dante said: The narrative that all slaves in the US were mistreated, tortured or worse doesn't really make sense if you think about it. If I'm a farmer paying a premium for a Cat or John Deere to help me harvest would I treat the equipment like crap so it broke down on me when I needed it? No way. Slaves were a significant investment. If you treated them like total shite no way you could get decent production out of them. Not saying they were treated like hotel guests just that it just doesn't add up that you would buy them just to abuse them. It's objectively inaccurate. Stonewall Jackson, for example: One slave he bought was a free man who sold himself to Jackson to pay off a debt; Jackson hired him out to VMI to work off the purchase and gain his freedom. Another was a four-year old orphaned girl a local widow couldn't support and was selling - Jackson bought her specifically to keep her in the community she knew. And he taught slaves to read, in part because he believed they could not be free without literacy. The modern interpretation of US slavery presumes that every slaveholder was a Deep South landowner growing cash crops on an industrial scale. The institution was far more complex than that simple archetype. 2 minutes ago, #34fan said: The 2018 outcome is fear of a white genocide taking place in SA... I personally don't think it'll happen, but I sure wouldn't put any money on that. Wouldn't be the first time that happened in sub-Saharan Africa. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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