klos63 Posted May 30, 2018 Posted May 30, 2018 (edited) 8 hours ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: no one is saying go on an all meat diet but vegan diets are not as healthy as an omnivore diet and are lacking in nutrients that plants simply can not provide. saying meat cause cancer is simply false, see above. that's simply false. Edited May 30, 2018 by klos63 1
26TrapDraw Posted May 30, 2018 Posted May 30, 2018 On 5/29/2018 at 4:33 AM, Captain_Quint said: Let's hope he has a pair of these for the garden I got my wife a pair of those. We don't have a garden. 1
nucci Posted May 30, 2018 Posted May 30, 2018 (edited) https://goo.gl/images/2vAzn1 https://goo.gl/images/FMQiiu Edited May 30, 2018 by nucci 1
Hapless Bills Fan Posted May 30, 2018 Posted May 30, 2018 15 hours ago, Sky Diver said: Plant based diet? Is that a new term for being a vegetarian? Not sure. I think it might just mean "Eat food. Mostly plants. Not too much" as Michael Pollan suggested in his bestseller, "In Defense of Food" ie 2/3 of the plate is veggies and salad, good portion of some high quality protein, small portion of whole-grain or starch (quinoa or wild rice or whole-grain bread or sweet potato) 15 hours ago, Sky Diver said: The heavy bean intake may make you unpopular in social situations. LOL - Too much Kale and etc, same thing. One word: Beano
Hapless Bills Fan Posted May 30, 2018 Posted May 30, 2018 38 minutes ago, BeefCurtns said: I got my wife a pair of those. We don't have a garden. TMI 1
cd1 Posted May 30, 2018 Posted May 30, 2018 (edited) 21 hours ago, klos63 said: Don't get fixated on protein, it's one of those urban legend type things. Just eat a normal, healthy diet and you'll have plenty of protein. I've been vegan for years and my protein levels are right where they should be. ^^^^^^ THIS ^^^^^^ I have been Whole Food Plant Based for a full year. No meat (beef, poultry, pork, fish, etc.), no dairy. Plus no gluten. Just got test results and protien and calcium levels are well within the normal range. Where do you think these guys get protein to grow their muscles? 16 hours ago, Sky Diver said: Plant based diet? Is that a new term for being a vegetarian? The heavy bean intake may make you unpopular in social situations. NO. Whole Food Plant Based (WFPB) diet means NO meat (beef, poultry, fish, pork, eggs, etc), NO dairy (cheese, milk, butter, anything made with milk products). NO oils. Little to no sugars. Little to no processed foods. Vegans eat no meat or dairy. They eat oil and sugar. Vegitarians only cut meat from diet. They do eat dairy. Edited May 30, 2018 by cd1 1
Captain_Quint Posted May 30, 2018 Posted May 30, 2018 15 hours ago, John from Riverside said: I live by a simple diet of chicken brochally brown rice its serving me well so far but my dr wants me to lay off the rice cuz of my diabetes I think that if I'm just eating three foods I'd learn to spell all three. 3
CommonCents Posted May 30, 2018 Posted May 30, 2018 4 minutes ago, Captain_Quint said: I think that if I'm just eating three foods I'd learn to spell all three. I just found it perfect that John eats the same three foods every night. He is the only guy I know that can convince himself it will taste good time and time again. Brochally is the best. Chicken made the Pro Bowl. Rice is going to surprise people. ?
Sky Diver Posted May 30, 2018 Posted May 30, 2018 1 hour ago, cd1 said: ^^^^^^ THIS ^^^^^^ I have been Whole Food Plant Based for a full year. No meat (beef, poultry, pork, fish, etc.), no dairy. Plus no gluten. Just got test results and protien and calcium levels are well within the normal range. Where do you think these guys get protein to grow their muscles? NO. Whole Food Plant Based (WFPB) diet means NO meat (beef, poultry, fish, pork, eggs, etc), NO dairy (cheese, milk, butter, anything made with milk products). NO oils. Little to no sugars. Little to no processed foods. Vegans eat no meat or dairy. They eat oil and sugar. Vegitarians only cut meat from diet. They do eat dairy. Too bad because eggs are a tremendous source of protein.
John from Riverside Posted May 30, 2018 Posted May 30, 2018 42 minutes ago, Captain_Quint said: I think that if I'm just eating three foods I'd learn to spell all three. true true
klos63 Posted May 30, 2018 Posted May 30, 2018 27 minutes ago, Sky Diver said: Too bad because eggs are a tremendous source of protein. they are also a cause of high cholesterol which can lead to heart disease. So it's better to get your protein without the heart disease risk. 1
John from Riverside Posted May 30, 2018 Posted May 30, 2018 Just now, klos63 said: they are also a cause of high cholesterol which can lead to heart disease. So it's better to get your protein without the heart disease risk. but....I really like eggs...:( Im actually eating a spinach omlette right now
Sky Diver Posted May 30, 2018 Posted May 30, 2018 (edited) 2 minutes ago, klos63 said: they are also a cause of high cholesterol which can lead to heart disease. So it's better to get your protein without the heart disease risk. Nah, that's an old wive's tale. https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/21/health/eggs-heart-disease-study/index.html What I would avoid is statin drugs. Edited May 30, 2018 by Sky Diver
Buffalo Barbarian Posted May 30, 2018 Posted May 30, 2018 2 hours ago, nucci said: https://goo.gl/images/2vAzn1 https://goo.gl/images/FMQiiu Bull shat broccoli is not even a good source of protein, this is the real fake news. Beans/legumes are the only good source of plant protein, you would have to eat 100 heads of broccoli to get the same amount of protein as a steak and then it would be an incomplete protein. meat is the beast source of protein because it s muscle, just like the ones our body has.
nucci Posted May 30, 2018 Posted May 30, 2018 Just now, Buffalo Barbarian said: Bull shat broccoli is not even a good source of protein, this is the real fake news. Beans/legumes are the only good source of plant protein, you would have to eat 100 heads of broccoli to get the same amount of protein as a steak and then it would be an incomplete protein. meat is the beast source of protein because it s muscle, just like the ones our body has. we obviously disagree. Red meat is also the best source of high cholesterol and heart disease.
Buffalo Barbarian Posted May 30, 2018 Posted May 30, 2018 1 hour ago, cd1 said: ^^^^^^ THIS ^^^^^^ I have been Whole Food Plant Based for a full year. No meat (beef, poultry, pork, fish, etc.), no dairy. Plus no gluten. Just got test results and protien and calcium levels are well within the normal range. Where do you think these guys get protein to grow their muscles? NO. Whole Food Plant Based (WFPB) diet means NO meat (beef, poultry, fish, pork, eggs, etc), NO dairy (cheese, milk, butter, anything made with milk products). NO oils. Little to no sugars. Little to no processed foods. Vegans eat no meat or dairy. They eat oil and sugar. Vegitarians only cut meat from diet. They do eat dairy. guess what we are not cows. Go ahead and eat grass ALL day and see how that goes. Veganism is just another cult. I'm out. Just now, nucci said: we obviously disagree. Red meat is also the best source of high cholesterol and heart disease. Wrong sugar, smoking and inactivity are . cholesterol is not bad for you, learn real science. https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2009/12/05/does-high-cholesterol-really-cause-heart-disease.aspx
John from Riverside Posted May 30, 2018 Posted May 30, 2018 6 minutes ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: Bull shat broccoli is not even a good source of protein, this is the real fake news. Beans/legumes are the only good source of plant protein, you would have to eat 100 heads of broccoli to get the same amount of protein as a steak and then it would be an incomplete protein. meat is the beast source of protein because it s muscle, just like the ones our body has. In my simple mind I always thought the broccoli was so I can poop
ghostwriter Posted May 30, 2018 Posted May 30, 2018 It's funny watching people debate veganism against ketogenic, both work if you follow the program correctly. It comes down to this: If you go high carbs, you must go low fat. If you go high fat, you must go low carbs. It's that simple.
CommonCents Posted May 30, 2018 Posted May 30, 2018 1 minute ago, John from Riverside said: In my simple mind I always thought the broccoli was so I can poop Cook the chicken in extra virgin olive oil, add one package of frozen spinach, mushrooms, garlic, pepper, Italian seasoning. All in one big pan on the stove. In in another pan boil your rice, in the third pan goes the water for the broccoli. Combine all 3 in a big plastic bowl, mix, eat for a week. Yum.
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