oldmanfan Posted May 28, 2018 Posted May 28, 2018 42 minutes ago, Hanoverbills said: Qb. --- Jim Kelly joe Ferguson Jack Kemp RB. --- O.J Thurman Thomas Cookie McCoy FB. --- Jim Braxton Wr. ---- Andre Reed Eric Moulds Bob Chandler Lee Evans TE. --- Pete Metzelaars Jay Riemersma OT. --- Will Wolford Jason Peters Joe Devlin Howard Ballard OG. --- Joe DeLamielleure Billy Shaw Ruben Brown Reggie McKenzie OC. --- Kent Hull All Bemiller DT. --- Tom Sestak Fred Smerlas Ted Washington Kyle Williams DE. --- Bruce Smith Ron McDole Aaron Schobel Sherman White MLB. --- Mike Stratten Jim Haslett Shane Conlan OLB. --- Cornelius Bennett Darryl Talley Luscious Stanford Spikes Safety. --- George Saimes Henry Jones Tony Greene Jarious Byrd CB. --- Burch Byrd Robert James Nate Odomes Nate Clements. Punter.--- Brian Noorman Kicker. --- Brian Lindell Interesting and fun to compare between folks. I do have to point out that Stratton was an OLB. Harry Jacobs played MLB, and he wouldn't be a bad choice
formerlyofCtown Posted May 28, 2018 Posted May 28, 2018 On 5/27/2018 at 5:46 AM, natedawg3535 said: good list but deffinatly different then mine , but i have to be honest.......i dont know some of the older players you have listed but heres some names i thought shoulda been on 1. Fred Jackson 2. Ruben Brown 3. John Fina 4. Aaron Schobel 5. Nate Clements ( i feel like he is always underated ) 6. Henry Jones 7. Kyle Wiliiams 8. Bryce Paup 9. Brian Moorman 10. Steve Tasker Love Fred but we have had all time greats not just Bills greats. 1
Formerly Allan in MD Posted May 28, 2018 Posted May 28, 2018 Most are still ignoring Steve Tasker. He'd be on my team any time. 1
Dadonkadonk Posted May 28, 2018 Posted May 28, 2018 How is Aaron Schobel not on most all 53? Second all-time in sacks for Bills. I would have Smith, M. Williams, and Schobel as my top 3 DE. I would put Peters in at OT. I don't care how short of a Bills career he had here. Wolford and Peters are the most talented OT this team has ever had. Add Rueben Brown over Ritcher Brown and Schobel are my top two most underrated Bills Moorman over McGuire A bit of a cheat to put Gilchrist in as a FB but a nice way to get 5 worthy RB on the list What a sad history of TE play in Buffalo Is it too soon to put Micah Hyde in the conversation? Kelso was so unathletic. Give Hyde two more seasons playing at the level he did last year and he will be the best safety the Bills ever had. 15 hours ago, natedawg3535 said: i just did a random google search of the best defensive tackles of all time and kyle williams pops up at #61 .....thats all DTs on all teams......of all time and you dont think he deserves to be on our top 53 ?!?! #stuckinthepast Kyle is a great story. He has been on some of the worst run stopping defenses of all-time. He may be a top 50 interior pass rusher. When playing in the 3-4 he is just not good. As a 3 technique DT he is very very good. Smerlas, Pat Williams, Ted Washington, and Sestak were all better in their eras.
Dadonkadonk Posted May 28, 2018 Posted May 28, 2018 Was Haslett really top 53 for most? He like Conlan flashed early and then faded quickly. If Cowart had stayed healthy..... 1
vorpma Posted May 28, 2018 Posted May 28, 2018 Cowart would have been a HOFer; good post! Have to agree about Steve Tasker too!
Lenigmusx Posted May 28, 2018 Posted May 28, 2018 (edited) On 5/26/2018 at 9:15 PM, RPbillsfan said: I thought it would be fun to put together a 53 man roster based on the Bills history from 1960 to 2017 Here is my All Bills team QB - Jim Kelly, Joe Ferguson, Jack Kemp RB - OJ Simpson, Thurman Thomas, Joe Cribbs, Leshon McCoy FB - Cookie Gilcrist OT - Harold Ballard, Wil Wolford, Stew Barber, Dave Foley OG - Joe Delamilure, Reggie McKenzie, Jim Ritcher, Billy Shaw C - Kent Hull, Al Bemiller WR - Andre Reed, Eric Moulds, Jerry Butler, Elbert Dubenion, Bob Chandler TE - Pete Metzellars, Charles Clay KR/PR - Terrance McGee, Wallace Francis P - Paul McGuire K - Pete Gogolak DE - Bruce Smith, Ron McDole, Jerry Hughes, Earl Edwards DT - Fred Smerlas, Ted Washington, Tom Sestak, Jim Dunaway LB - Cornelius Bennett, Mike Stratton, Jim Haslett, London Fletcher, Takeo Spikes, Darryl Talley, Shane Conlan CB - Nate Odems, Antoine Winfield, Robert James, Butch Byrd S - Mark Kelso, Jeff Nixon, George Saimes, Tony Greene, Steve Freeman Please review and let me know your thoughts James Lofton, Lee Evans and Frank Lewis are definitely also worthy of mention at WR. I also think Ben Williams and Phil Hansen make my team over Jerry Hughes and Earl Edwards at DE, Bryce Paul over London Fletcher at LB, Darrick Burroughs over Nate Odomes and Keith Mckeller over Charles Clay, Jay Riemersma honorable mention and Steve Christie as the kicker. Edited May 28, 2018 by Lenigmusx 1
RPbillsfan Posted May 28, 2018 Author Posted May 28, 2018 58 minutes ago, Lenigmusx said: James Lofton, Lee Evans and Frank Lewis are definitely also worthy of mention at WR. I also think Ben Williams and Phil Hansen make my team over Jerry Hughes and Earl Edwards at DE, Bryce Paul over London Fletcher at LB, Darrick Burroughs over Nate Odomes and Keith Mckeller over Charles Clay, Jay Riemersma honorable mention and Steve Christie as the kicker. So much great feedback from everyone I appreciate your input.
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted May 29, 2018 Posted May 29, 2018 10 minutes ago, Steve O said: Kicker should be Hauschka Gesundheit.
formerlyofCtown Posted May 29, 2018 Posted May 29, 2018 On 5/27/2018 at 11:21 PM, Rico said: I only need 4 DT's and his play hasn't been better than any of my 4 IMO. Then there's his leadership, which is pretty damn good, but who is he really going to lead on that team? He'd be a sidekick at best. According to the rankings he is in our top 4 all time.
BearNorth Posted May 29, 2018 Posted May 29, 2018 FWIW Three Bills made the all time AFL team, Shaw [HOF], Sestak, and Saimes. One of the biggest Bills Draft boots in history is Gerry Philbin, could you imagine the '65 defense with him. He made Buddy Ryan at UB. The following Bills made their all-decade NFL teams Joe D OJ James Lofton Bruce Smith Thurman Thomas Cornelius Bennett Marv Levy Brian Moorman Terrell Owens [Only 1 yr in Buffalo] Think Moorman has to be the punter.
BigDingus Posted May 29, 2018 Posted May 29, 2018 On 5/26/2018 at 8:15 PM, RPbillsfan said: I thought it would be fun to put together a 53 man roster based on the Bills history from 1960 to 2017 Here is my All Bills team QB - Jim Kelly, Joe Ferguson, Jack Kemp RB - OJ Simpson, Thurman Thomas, Joe Cribbs, Leshon McCoy FB - Cookie Gilcrist OT - Harold Ballard, Wil Wolford, Stew Barber, Dave Foley OG - Joe Delamilure, Reggie McKenzie, Jim Ritcher, Billy Shaw C - Kent Hull, Al Bemiller WR - Andre Reed, Eric Moulds, Jerry Butler, Elbert Dubenion, Bob Chandler TE - Pete Metzellars, Charles Clay KR/PR - Terrance McGee, Wallace Francis P - Paul McGuire K - Pete Gogolak DE - Bruce Smith, Ron McDole, Jerry Hughes, Earl Edwards DT - Fred Smerlas, Ted Washington, Tom Sestak, Jim Dunaway LB - Cornelius Bennett, Mike Stratton, Jim Haslett, London Fletcher, Takeo Spikes, Darryl Talley, Shane Conlan CB - Nate Odems, Antoine Winfield, Robert James, Butch Byrd S - Mark Kelso, Jeff Nixon, George Saimes, Tony Greene, Steve Freeman Please review and let me know your thoughts Again, people forgetting about Reuben Brown.... I feel like it's almost weekly I have to bring him up. It's almost like my personal duty that people don't forget we had such an all-time great player on our roster for so long, yet he never gets mentioned because he came after the Super Bowl years & before the drought really picked up. The guy deserves a spot on the wall IMO. Even though Kelly was great, Bruce was clearly the best player at his position on those SB teams. Similarly, Brown was the best at his position on his teams, but people are going to remember others more. On 5/28/2018 at 1:12 PM, Lenigmusx said: James Lofton, Lee Evans and Frank Lewis are definitely also worthy of mention at WR. I also think Ben Williams and Phil Hansen make my team over Jerry Hughes and Earl Edwards at DE, Bryce Paul over London Fletcher at LB, Darrick Burroughs over Nate Odomes and Keith Mckeller over Charles Clay, Jay Riemersma honorable mention and Steve Christie as the kicker. Out of all of those, I agree with Christie as the kicker too. The guy was clutch. If not him, then definitely Rian Lindell, as he was the most accurate kicker in Bills history. In regards to your other suggestions, I'd still take London Fletcher at LB or throw a healthy Sam Cowart in there. Also, forgot about Jay Riemersma....really underrated & deserving of a spot too. 1
Coach55 Posted May 30, 2018 Posted May 30, 2018 On 5/27/2018 at 9:33 PM, LittleJoeCartwright said: Hmm, let's see. Fergy had longevity. He was a game manager handing off to OJ in his prime as the team had 2 winning seasons and made the playoffs once in the 70s. He was the QB for the Chuck Knox teams, winning the division in 1980 and making the playoffs in '81. Kelly was drafted in '83 to replace him and he was let go even though Kelly went to the USFL. (Dufek, Mathison, Ferragamo, Yuck!) Flutie's stay in Buffalo was a lot shorter but his teams were winners, but I think only somewhat due to him as the Defense was good. I lean towards Fergy for his many years as a Bill. Yes the Flutie Bills did have a good defense, but when they put Johnson in with the same team they lost. Flutie was 21-9 as a starter over 3 seasons. 70% win percentage. Ferguson may have had a season or two, but overall was a never-was with a losing record.
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