Tiberius Posted May 31, 2018 Posted May 31, 2018 9 hours ago, keepthefaith said: Appreciate the update. So sad we need to update a president's lies but welcome to the era of Trump!
3rdnlng Posted May 31, 2018 Posted May 31, 2018 1 hour ago, Tiberius said: So sad we need to update a president's lies but welcome to the era of Trump! Your well thought out research really gives a meaning to your updates.
Deranged Rhino Posted May 31, 2018 Posted May 31, 2018 Just a coincidence, not a pattern, right? http://amp.dailycaller.com/2018/03/13/fusion-gps-romney-investigation/?utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter&utm_campaign=site-share&__twitter_impression=true They think you're stupid. Stupid enough to blindly believe media spin rather than look at the evidence yourself. A coup is a coup, spying is spying - no matter how much they try to deny it.
Tiberius Posted May 31, 2018 Posted May 31, 2018 No, they know you are, that's why they sling so much BS, that's why Trump opened Trump U.
Deranged Rhino Posted May 31, 2018 Posted May 31, 2018 I was talking about this before it was in the news or a talking point - and providing evidence to support it for over a year now. I'm not magic. I didn't conjure this story out of thin air. I simply read the evidence available and thought for myself. You'd be amazed at how easy it is to see through the bull **** if you put in the effort to read primary sources rather than relying on second hand analysis of said sources by partisans with bylines. Now, go get excited. McCabe turned over a memo to Mueller. You'll be slobbering over this news in a day or two - and it'll spectacularly blow up in your face, as the entire "treason"/Russian collusion narrative you've been breathlessly cheerleading for has. 1
DC Tom Posted May 31, 2018 Posted May 31, 2018 1 hour ago, Deranged Rhino said: Just a coincidence, not a pattern, right? http://amp.dailycaller.com/2018/03/13/fusion-gps-romney-investigation/?utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter&utm_campaign=site-share&__twitter_impression=true They think you're stupid. Stupid enough to blindly believe media spin rather than look at the evidence yourself. A coup is a coup, spying is spying - no matter how much they try to deny it. That is disturbing as hell. 1
Deranged Rhino Posted May 31, 2018 Posted May 31, 2018 1 minute ago, DC Tom said: That is disturbing as hell. It's about to get worse with what I just found... give me a few minutes to write it up. Just got confirmation on the 702 stuff.
Deranged Rhino Posted May 31, 2018 Posted May 31, 2018 More confirmation of this: On 5/27/2018 at 12:19 PM, Deranged Rhino said: A Deeper Dive into the Phases of the Operation Phase One – Political Spying & Election Rigging: (Start unknown - April 18th, 2016) From at least early 2015 through April 18th, 2016 the FBI, DOJ, the Obama Whitehouse, and the DNC/HRC campaign colluded with one another to run an illegal surveillance operation on multiple presidential candidates during the 2016 campaign. The intent of the intelligence operation was to provide opposition research to the DNC and Clinton campaign, which could then be fed to friendly media outlets to bury her opponents in innuendo and scandal, assuring her victory. It's key to note that while the focus of this post is on the spying during the campaign and primaries, this illegal surveillance operation was likely used for the entirety of 44's two terms in office (and beyond). This surveillance operation primarily relied upon the pilfering of raw 702 NSA data. This was accomplished (with deniability) by still unnamed government contractors working inside the DOJ National Security Division (NSD) and the FBI Counterintelligence Division (CID) who were able to access NSA data without oversight or a warrant. We know for certain this was done routinely from at least November 2015 until April 18th 2016, but it’s likely – if not probable – this abuse had been going on for years. In mid 2015, DOJ Inspector General Michael Horowitz asked Sally Yates for oversight of the DOJ-NSD - this "request" was a part of his job scope and well within his purview but it was made before Horowitz was fully empowered. For the entirety of 44's terms, first Holder then Lynch changed the interpretation of the law to limit how the IG could perform the oversight required by his job - something that was rectified in December 2016. Yates responded to Horowitz's request by telling him to get lost (1). The reluctance to let the IG see what the NSD was up to implies strongly that both Yates and NSD head Carlin were aware of the illegalities and desired to keep it under wraps. It was paramount to keep the 702 access open as the election drew closer. This charge is not mere speculation, but one backed by fact and evidence. According to an internal NSA audit and a FISC investigation into these abuses (2,3), 85% of the 702 query requests made by these contractors were illegal. These abuses increased in frequency the closer the primaries got to being completed, signaling their true purpose. The audit and FISC memo were declassified and released to the public in early 2017 by DNI Coats. It received little to no attention at the time yet will come to serve as a key piece of evidence in the prosecutions to come. The admissions in these two documents are key to understanding how this long running illegal operation worked, how it was destroyed, and how it will be prosecuted. That a long-running, illegal surveillance operation had existed unchecked since at least 2015 and was being used to spy on political opposition in order to benefit the Clinton campaign is undeniable. But why was it necessary? Anyone paying attention to the primary action knew it was going to be Clinton v Trump by March (even though it wasn't official until June) - and nearly every expert believed Clinton would be able to trump Trump in a walk come November. So why take such a risk if the election was going to be a lock? Part of the answer is hubris - the other part of the answer is Bernie Sanders. Sanders exposed the chink in the Clinton armor, she wasn't unbeatable - hell, she was barely likable to most of the voting public - and the higher ups running this operation knew it. The primary battle with Sanders showed them that Clinton was highly vulnerable and thus the extra level of security (cheating) was necessary to assure her victory. Phase One of this operation would come to a screeching halt on April 18th, 2016 when Admiral Mike Rogers landed the first MI counter punch against the conspirators... A fundamental plank of what I have been arguing for over a year is the 702 abuse inside the DOJ-NSD and FBI-CID by government contractors - which was shut down in April by Admiral Mike Rogers and forced the conspirators to scramble, thus exposing them in the process. This 702 abuse fueled the spying campaign against numerous political opponents, extending beyond the 2016 election. That this abuse happened has been proven by reports from the FISC, the NSA IG, and testimony of Admiral Mike Rogers himself. Well, now we can add Strzok to the list of people confirming this was the case. Check out what was just uncovered: (Inbox = Strzok) https://www.scribd.com/document/371007072/Strzok-Page-texts "SO NOW WE'VE SWITCHED FROM THE PATRIOT ACT TO A WIRE CARRYING CURRENT." !!!!! Remember, the Patriot Act is what birthed 702 and the carve outs for 702(16) and 702(17). On April 30th - weeks before G-Pap's meeting with Downer - Strzok is admitting that they were using the Patriot Act to spy on Trump's campaign. That is yet ANOTHER piece of confirmation which shows the surveillance pre-dated the FBI investigation and was motivated by politics not national security. Remember what was covered about the 702 abuses (refer here for a great summary: https://themarketswork.com/2018/01/15/the-uncovering-section-702-about-queries-independent-contractors-a-new-narrative/ and also here: https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2018/01/05/operation-condor-how-nsa-director-mike-rogers-saved-the-u-s-from-a-massive-constitutional-crisis/ ) This is an admission by Strzok that they (suddenly) stopped using 702 IN APRIL and switched to a wire carrying current (which, in intel parlance means wither a HUMAN SOURCE WEARING A WIRE or a good old fashion WIRE TAP... again, this is before any FISA warrant, before any official investigation was opened by the FBI-CID). This was always a political operation designed to tilt the election in one direction, and when that failed it became a palace coup attempt which abused the massive powers of surveillance available to our government. This isn't about left or right. This isn't about Russia. It never has been about Russia. This isn't a conspiracy theory, Doc. It's just a good old fashioned conspiracy.
B-Man Posted May 31, 2018 Posted May 31, 2018 Multiple Gator posts....................Desperation personified 1
ALF Posted May 31, 2018 Posted May 31, 2018 I think Trump is sending a message , his presidential pardon is there.
Deranged Rhino Posted May 31, 2018 Posted May 31, 2018 20 minutes ago, ALF said: I think Trump is sending a message , his presidential pardon is there. You mean you think Trump's recent spat of pardons is an attempt to send the message that he'll pardon whoever Mueller indicts? (Just trying to tack your statement)
ALF Posted May 31, 2018 Posted May 31, 2018 4 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: You mean you think Trump's recent spat of pardons is an attempt to send the message that he'll pardon whoever Mueller indicts? (Just trying to tack your statement) yes
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