row_33 Posted May 24, 2018 Posted May 24, 2018 "involuntary mental evaluation" Does this stay on your permanent record?
jrober38 Posted May 24, 2018 Posted May 24, 2018 I'd bet my life savings on him having an advanced case of CTE. The guy's brain clearly isn't functioning properly and it will only continue to get worse.
26CornerBlitz Posted May 24, 2018 Posted May 24, 2018 3 minutes ago, jrober38 said: I'd bet my life savings on him having an advanced case of CTE. The guy's brain clearly isn't functioning properly and it will only continue to get worse. Erratic behavior is something he's been exhibiting for a number of years.
jrober38 Posted May 24, 2018 Posted May 24, 2018 Just now, 26CornerBlitz said: Erratic behavior is something he's been exhibiting for a number of years. You don't get CTE overnight. It's a degenerative brain disease that some athletes in high school display symptoms of. Think of how many hits to the head he's taken over the past 20 years. Probably tens of thousands.
26CornerBlitz Posted May 24, 2018 Posted May 24, 2018 Just now, jrober38 said: You don't get CTE overnight. It's a degenerative brain disease that some athletes in high school display symptoms of. Think of how many hits to the head he's taken over the past 20 years. Probably tens of thousands. Could be a CTE thing or maybe a combination of factors. Whatever it is he needs to seek help before he harms himself and others.
jrober38 Posted May 24, 2018 Posted May 24, 2018 Just now, 26CornerBlitz said: Could be a CTE thing or maybe a combination of factors. Whatever it is he needs to seek help before he harms himself and others. I agree I hope he doesn't harm anyone else. That would be awful and him picking a fight at a gym and throwing dumb bells at people seems like he came awfully close. Unfortunately if he has CTE, it's just going to keep getting worse and there's nothing that can be done to stop it. Humans aren't meant to play football. When I read stories like this I feel extremely guilty for watching a sport that might provide players with high salaries and a great lifestyle, but it's too often at the expense of not being able to be a functioning member of society after they retire. 1
#34fan Posted May 24, 2018 Posted May 24, 2018 1 minute ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Could be a CTE thing or maybe a combination of factors. Whatever it is he needs to seek help before he harms himself and others. Depending on who you ask, he's already harmed others... I wonder what kind of help it would take? What if he's just an unredeemable GOON?...
Marv's Neighbor Posted May 24, 2018 Posted May 24, 2018 So maybe he has some hidden QB tendencies? Who knew!
Lurker Posted May 24, 2018 Posted May 24, 2018 https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/2018/05/24/richie-incognito-altered-paranoid-state-police-responded/641380002/ Sounds reasonable to me... “There's a guy walking around with head phones on," Incognito said. "I'm running NSA class level 3 documents through my phone. I can't have anybody (with) bluetooth capability ... taking pictures of me."
BringBackOrton Posted May 24, 2018 Posted May 24, 2018 4 minutes ago, jrober38 said: I agree I hope he doesn't harm anyone else. That would be awful and him picking a fight at a gym and throwing dumb bells at people seems like he came awfully close. Unfortunately if he has CTE, it's just going to keep getting worse and there's nothing that can be done to stop it. Humans aren't meant to play football. When I read stories like this I feel extremely guilty for watching a sport that might provide players with high salaries and a great lifestyle, but it's too often at the expense of not being able to be a functioning member of society after they retire. Don't feel guilty until they do a toxicology report. Just now, Doc said: Hopped-up on Shroom Tech? Haven't you heard?
row_33 Posted May 24, 2018 Posted May 24, 2018 46 minutes ago, Marv's Neighbor said: So maybe he has some hidden QB tendencies? Who knew! third on the depth chart right now
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted May 24, 2018 Posted May 24, 2018 1 minute ago, row_33 said: third on the depth chart right now ?...decisions, decisions.
row_33 Posted May 24, 2018 Posted May 24, 2018 9 minutes ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said: ?...decisions, decisions. i like more amusing controversies in the offseason
Rochesterfan Posted May 24, 2018 Posted May 24, 2018 58 minutes ago, jrober38 said: I'd bet my life savings on him having an advanced case of CTE. The guy's brain clearly isn't functioning properly and it will only continue to get worse. Could be, but I would not bet anything on it. This pattern of behavior has been occurring since his high school days and he has been treated for mental illness in the past. Typically drugs used to balance brain chemistry are pretty tough to keep in a good balance and they are especially vulnerable to other drug interactions like alcohol abuse - which he also has a history off. I would guess we are seeing the effects of him either no longer taking his meds properly or him needing an adjustment and that has lead to erratic behavior since the end of last season. Now or if you want to say some of the hits to the head and maybe even a hit late last year exacerbated the issues - I could live with that, but this is not a strictly CTE reaction since this has been occurring since his teens. 53 minutes ago, jrober38 said: Humans aren't meant to play football. When I read stories like this I feel extremely guilty for watching a sport that might provide players with high salaries and a great lifestyle, but it's too often at the expense of not being able to be a functioning member of society after they retire. I do not feel bad about watching it. I know a number of ex players that are living an excellent life after football. There are some/many bad cases, but there are just as many or more that are living a great life, but we just do not hear or care to talk about them. Many ex players have allowed their kids to go on and play the sport and it is a love affair they have with the game - the more vocal minority say I would never let my kid play and that gets the headlines. I feel horrible for the ex players that go through things like this, but I also feel both the league and especially the new generation of players need to do a better job of helping the older generations out and being honest with themselves and their doctors.
DefenseWins Posted May 24, 2018 Posted May 24, 2018 https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/05/24/richie-incognito-told-police-hes-involved-with-the-nsa-being-tracked-by-government/ Don't know if this has already been posted but...
Fadingpain Posted May 24, 2018 Posted May 24, 2018 43 minutes ago, DefenseWins said: https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/05/24/richie-incognito-told-police-hes-involved-with-the-nsa-being-tracked-by-government/ Don't know if this has already been posted but... Holy cow, he may actually be full-on looney tunes. Like headed to an asylum looney tunes. Sorry to hear this. I have to say, I detected absolutely NONE of that sort of thing listening to many interviews/comments from him during his 2nd tenure with the Bills. He actually seemed quite intelligent and well spoken for a pro football player.
Hapless Bills Fan Posted May 24, 2018 Posted May 24, 2018 8 minutes ago, Fadingpain said: Holy cow, he may actually be full-on looney tunes. Like headed to an asylum looney tunes. Sorry to hear this. I have to say, I detected absolutely NONE of that sort of thing listening to many interviews/comments from him during his 2nd tenure with the Bills. He actually seemed quite intelligent and well spoken for a pro football player. It may not have been there in interviews during his tenure with the Bills. He may have either stopped taking his meds this offseason, or started/stepped up abusing alcohol/street drugs in a way that interfered with the meds or created “interesting” side effects. And yep, shades of “Beautiful Mind”. We may now have the answer to several questions, including why the Bills were unenthusiastic to renegotiate and when he un-retired, decided to just part ways.
DefenseWins Posted May 25, 2018 Posted May 25, 2018 2 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: It may not have been there in interviews during his tenure with the Bills. He may have either stopped taking his meds this offseason, or started/stepped up abusing alcohol/street drugs in a way that interfered with the meds or created “interesting” side effects. And yep, shades of “Beautiful Mind”. We may now have the answer to several questions, including why the Bills were unenthusiastic to renegotiate and when he un-retired, decided to just part ways. Richie and Zay would be real interesting together on a Saturday night on the town... 1
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