BullBuchanan Posted August 31, 2018 Posted August 31, 2018 47 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said: I just think there's more to this preseason than Peterman's production. Don't you get the sense that it's manufactured production? https://www.instagram.com/p/Bm_hoi3hzI7/ McDermott admitted Daboll showed too much on offense vs the Panthers, thus severely holding the offense back, since then, making it difficult to grade the other QBs. I don't think anyone has a clue at this point, but I'll stick with my original prediction that Allen is our starting QB week 1. I think that last preseason game shuffling OL in and out was as much a test as anything else. Allen definitely didn't produce the way he had the previous 2 games, but he also protected the football... something McDermott clearly values considering he gave Picked-off-again Peterman just a half before recommitting to Taylor as the starter last year. I think McDermott simply can't ignore the pick-six per game that Peterman is solely because of his weak arm. I think that there's a good chance that this preseason was as much about building up Peterman's confidence again after his abysmal start in his limited regular season action as it was about seeing if Allen is ready to start yet. After all, backup QBs might need to play, and if they do, you'll prefer they don't throw 5 INTs in a half. Both of those missions look like they're about accomplished. If that were the case he would have been gone or there would have been a 4th QB in camp. This thread is getting sadder by the day, as Peterman's inevitable rise to Bill's starting QB is all but sealed.
reddogblitz Posted August 31, 2018 Posted August 31, 2018 (edited) I'm shocked I'm with the majority on this one with AJ. We need to get out to a fast start. AJ gives us the best chance to beat the Raisins. He prepared for 8 games against them in Cincy. he knows them well. He's the most NFL ready guy we got right here right now IMHO . He's a gamer. Comes through when the chips are down like tonight and in the Cincy playoff game. Based on things I've heard Coach McDermott say, I think he likes him. i just don't think Josh is ready. I really don't want to see Nasty Nate vs Chargers round 2. We can re evaluate after that. Edited August 31, 2018 by reddogblitz
BullBuchanan Posted August 31, 2018 Posted August 31, 2018 2 minutes ago, reddogblitz said: I'm shocked I'm with the majority on this one with AJ. We need to get out to a fast start. AJ gives us the best chance to beat the Raisins. He prepared for 8 games against them in Cincy. he knows them well. He's the most NFL ready guy we got right here right now IMHO . He's a gamer. Comes through when the chips are down like tonight and in the Cincy playoff game. Based on things I've heard Coach McDermott say, I think he likes him. i just don't think Josh is ready. I really don't want to see Nasty Nate vs Chargers round 2. We can re evaluate after that. Did you watch him play today? Or maybe any other game? He's horrific.
transplantbillsfan Posted August 31, 2018 Author Posted August 31, 2018 26 minutes ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: Had to switch to Peterman, don't want Allen killed, once we get way more talent around him next year then FULL SPEED AHEAD !!! I get it. I also think that thought process is one that largely resigns us to sucking this year and I don't think McDermott is resigned to sucking. I think he wants to win now while building for the future just like he's been saying. And I don't think he would've been able to get Kyle or Lorax back if it were different. So, while I agree Peterman very much could be the starter in Baltimore, he's going to be on a short leash. If Allen is the starter, that leash will be a mile longer.
Buffalo Ballin Posted August 31, 2018 Posted August 31, 2018 Starter - Nathan Peterman Back up - AJ McCarron Third stringer - Josh Allen 1
reddogblitz Posted August 31, 2018 Posted August 31, 2018 (edited) 29 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said: Did you watch him play today? Or maybe any other game? He's horrific. I saw the first game where I thought he played well. The 62 yard play was especially nice. Clowns game he had no chance as Josh vs Bungles. Tonight he threw 3 TD passes.and we won. Bad stuff too, but he made up for it. He threw the most TD passes in pre season by a Bills QB and the longest pass play of pre season.of 62 yards. I'm going to watch the replay Saturday. I don't think he's horrific. I know you got your Nasty Nate Jersey ready to go, but we'll see ... Edited August 31, 2018 by reddogblitz
transplantbillsfan Posted August 31, 2018 Author Posted August 31, 2018 11 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said: If that were the case he would have been gone or there would have been a 4th QB in camp. This thread is getting sadder by the day, as Peterman's inevitable rise to Bill's starting QB is all but sealed. Inevitable??? Yet, he hasn't been named the starter and the last time he actually saw the field with the 1st team offense was against the Panthers. And I just know you wouldn't vomit that his stats were SooOOooo much better so he earned it over anyone else because have some football knowledge and understand that preseason stats are meaningless because coaches are looking at film after the games most importantly to examine what happened.
Buffalo Barbarian Posted August 31, 2018 Posted August 31, 2018 7 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said: I get it. I also think that thought process is one that largely resigns us to sucking this year and I don't think McDermott is resigned to sucking. I think he wants to win now while building for the future just like he's been saying. And I don't think he would've been able to get Kyle or Lorax back if it were different. So, while I agree Peterman very much could be the starter in Baltimore, he's going to be on a short leash. If Allen is the starter, that leash will be a mile longer. I get that as well and I'm all about wining now and in the future but there will be no future if Allen is shell shocked, can't have another David Carr. Allen is a Rolls Royce, Peterman and McCarron are beater cars.
BullBuchanan Posted August 31, 2018 Posted August 31, 2018 1 minute ago, transplantbillsfan said: Inevitable??? Yet, he hasn't been named the starter and the last time he actually saw the field with the 1st team offense was against the Panthers. And I just know you wouldn't vomit that his stats were SooOOooo much better so he earned it over anyone else because have some football knowledge and understand that preseason stats are meaningless because coaches are looking at film after the games most importantly to examine what happened. Forget stats. He's the only QB that doesn't look like a deer in the headlights and can move the chains. The only reason it's taking this long is because McBeane desperately wants to validate selling the farm to draft a raw prospect 7th overall. It's ego and nothing more. It hasn't been a close competition at any point since the draft.
Buffalo Barbarian Posted August 31, 2018 Posted August 31, 2018 Just now, BullBuchanan said: Forget stats. He's the only QB that doesn't look like a deer in the headlights and can move the chains. The only reason it's taking this long is because McBeane desperately wants to validate selling the farm to draft a raw prospect 7th overall. It's ego and nothing more. It hasn't been a close competition at any point since the draft. Ego, lol, you don't know McDermott at all. He has stated a hundred times WHEN Allen is ready he will start.
GunnerBill Posted August 31, 2018 Posted August 31, 2018 I think now it will be Nate. I'd still go Josh I think but I can see the reasons for both. 1
Royale with Cheese Posted August 31, 2018 Posted August 31, 2018 3 hours ago, BullBuchanan said: Forget stats. He's the only QB that doesn't look like a deer in the headlights and can move the chains. The only reason it's taking this long is because McBeane desperately wants to validate selling the farm to draft a raw prospect 7th overall. It's ego and nothing more. It hasn't been a close competition at any point since the draft. Ego thing LOL?
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted August 31, 2018 Posted August 31, 2018 5 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: Ego thing LOL? Don't bother. Burple Buchanan has his agenda. 1
McBean Posted August 31, 2018 Posted August 31, 2018 Nate starts with Josh taking over week 5 at home against Tennessee.
billsredneck1 Posted August 31, 2018 Posted August 31, 2018 (edited) 21 minutes ago, McBean said: Nate starts with Josh taking over week 5 at home against Tennessee. other than the bye, this may be the best time....if things are going south. on topic, i would absolutely start nate. also, the 4th game is done and most teams have their starter named by week 3. there's no way that mcd hasn't already made that decision known to the team and that they have been gameplanning and practicing for the ravens. practice has been closed for the last few days. i just can't see how mcprocess cannot be mcprepared. it just hasn't been made public yet. if he starts anyone other than nate, he's out thinking things and putting careers at stake. he can't be that mcdumb. Edited August 31, 2018 by billsredneck1
Green Lightning Posted August 31, 2018 Posted August 31, 2018 McBeane is not going to sacrifice the season for on the job training. Nate starts. If/when we are out of it, it's Allen time.
Southern Bills Fan Posted August 31, 2018 Posted August 31, 2018 If it was really an open competition then Peterman won easily.
BuffaloHokie13 Posted August 31, 2018 Posted August 31, 2018 I haven't changed my answer since the first iteration of this. Allen.
transplantbillsfan Posted August 31, 2018 Author Posted August 31, 2018 8 hours ago, reddogblitz said: I'm shocked I'm with the majority on this one with AJ. We need to get out to a fast start. AJ gives us the best chance to beat the Raisins. He prepared for 8 games against them in Cincy. he knows them well. He's the most NFL ready guy we got right here right now IMHO . He's a gamer. Comes through when the chips are down like tonight and in the Cincy playoff game. Based on things I've heard Coach McDermott say, I think he likes him. i just don't think Josh is ready. I really don't want to see Nasty Nate vs Chargers round 2. We can re evaluate after that. I seriously doubt AJ is actually being considered at this point. Last night was one of those showcase games McBeane's hoping garners them a 5th-7th round draft pick. 8 hours ago, Buffalo Ballin said: Starter - Nathan Peterman Back up - AJ McCarron Third stringer - Josh Allen Doubt it
transplantbillsfan Posted August 31, 2018 Author Posted August 31, 2018 8 hours ago, BullBuchanan said: Forget stats. He's the only QB that doesn't look like a deer in the headlights and can move the chains. The only reason it's taking this long is because McBeane desperately wants to validate selling the farm to draft a raw prospect 7th overall. It's ego and nothing more. It hasn't been a close competition at any point since the draft. Peterman might start, but every single sentence in this post is sheer and utter crap. 5 hours ago, McBean said: Nate starts with Josh taking over week 5 at home against Tennessee. That's the game I'm going to this year. I'd be happy with that 1
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