transplantbillsfan Posted August 18, 2018 Author Posted August 18, 2018 3 hours ago, BullBuchanan said: I will if he earns the job and isn't given a handout. As soon as he proves he can outperform the guy above him on a consistent basis, start him. No free lunch. Well... he outperformed him yesterday and although Peterman played well against Carolina, he wasn't challenging the D in the way Allen was. And by the way, shouldn't this criteria be the same in reverse? Peterman hasn't been consistently outperforming anyone in camp... Why do you want to give him a free lunch? Is it a bagged lunch you're used to packing him? Was I mistaken earlier... you're his Mom, not his wife? 1
BullBuchanan Posted August 19, 2018 Posted August 19, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, transplantbillsfan said: Well... he outperformed him yesterday and although Peterman played well against Carolina, he wasn't challenging the D in the way Allen was. And by the way, shouldn't this criteria be the same in reverse? Peterman hasn't been consistently outperforming anyone in camp... Why do you want to give him a free lunch? Is it a bagged lunch you're used to packing him? Was I mistaken earlier... you're his Mom, not his wife? Troll attempt 0/10. Try again. You can ignore reality if it suits your palette. Plenty of people do these days. Allen had a great game yesterday. I have no motive to take that away from him. However, Peterman's game was even better. The guy has been neck and neck with McCarron in camp, at worst, from every single report, and he's drastically outperformed everyone in live games. I get it - you're excited. It's natural. But Allen, to this point, has still been second best. You should be excited for the fact that we have two QBs doing well, instead of trying to tear one down to forward an agenda Edited August 19, 2018 by BullBuchanan 1
Solomon Grundy Posted August 19, 2018 Posted August 19, 2018 I still think Coach McDermott is leaning towards Peterman. I would like to see Josh play with the starters against the Bengals though.
Dopey Posted August 19, 2018 Posted August 19, 2018 Since AJ got hurt, I voted for Allen. Wanted Allen to sit a while and not be thrown to the wolves, but... Good luck, Josh! 1
suorangefan4 Posted August 19, 2018 Posted August 19, 2018 11 hours ago, BullBuchanan said: Troll attempt 0/10. Try again. You can ignore reality if it suits your palette. Plenty of people do these days. Allen had a great game yesterday. I have no motive to take that away from him. However, Peterman's game was even better. The guy has been neck and neck with McCarron in camp, at worst, from every single report, and he's drastically outperformed everyone in live games. I get it - you're excited. It's natural. But Allen, to this point, has still been second best. You should be excited for the fact that we have two QBs doing well, instead of trying to tear one down to forward an agenda This is how I feel. I think Allen has a chance to become a very good QB. I'm in the pro-Allen camp. However I think Peterman can be a very good QB too and I think currently he's better. There's so many Bills fans that refuse to accept that Peterman can and has shown some really good things. Their bias is pathetic. 1
transplantbillsfan Posted August 20, 2018 Author Posted August 20, 2018 This is actually a pretty big shift
transplantbillsfan Posted August 20, 2018 Author Posted August 20, 2018 Hmmmmm…. so now Allen's been officially named the starter for our dress rehearsal preseason game after going into the previous 2 games announcing the starter last minute...
transplantbillsfan Posted August 25, 2018 Author Posted August 25, 2018 https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.democratandchronicle.com/amp/1077552002 Josh Allen gets his big chance to win Bills' QB job: Here's what to watch for But the fact that Allen’s opportunity comes in this game is naturally intriguing because as we all know, teams around the NFL treat the third preseason match as the dress rehearsal for the regular season, then use the fourth game to play as many young kids as possible so they can make their final cases to earn a roster spot. This is the game where the starters will play at least the first half, and probably into the third quarter. Allen will have a longer stint with the first-unit offense than McCarron or Peterman had, and it’s clear that McDermott wants to see how Allen handles it all. and If he nails it, don’t be surprised if Allen starts against the Ravens on Sept. 9. If he doesn’t, then it seems likely that Peterman or McCarron will get the nod, which is what many of us expected in the first place after listening to McDermott say on numerous occasions that he didn’t want to rush Allen into a situation he wasn’t ready for. Is he ready, though? Can Allen stick the landing and make a compelling case to win the job this week? Here are three things I’ll be watching. 1. Does Allen command the huddle? 2. Is he making the right decisions? 3. Is he throwing the ball accurately?
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted August 25, 2018 Posted August 25, 2018 (edited) On 8/19/2018 at 10:52 AM, suorangefan4 said: This is how I feel. I think Allen has a chance to become a very good QB. I'm in the pro-Allen camp. However I think Peterman can be a very good QB too and I think currently he's better. There's so many Bills fans that refuse to accept that Peterman can and has shown some really good things. Their bias is pathetic. ...certainly agree.....the kid was a 5th rounder, a DAMN FIFTH!.......and all he does is work harder to get better.....probably still in camp due to McD's sympathy, right?.....what if this kid came remotely close to being a Reich type, solid backup?....naw, no way in hell we'd want that...SMH.... Edited August 25, 2018 by OldTimeAFLGuy
transplantbillsfan Posted August 27, 2018 Author Posted August 27, 2018 (edited) Gotta be honest, I might disagree with Vic’s take here... we might need to throw Peterman it McCarron to the wolves and pray they rise to the occasion while putting Allen on bubble wrap because our starting OL might be historically bad, but... https://buffalonews.com/2018/08/26/vic-carucci-bills-still-should-make-allen-opening-day-starter/?utm_term=Autofeed&utm_campaign=puma&utm_medium=social&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1535334589 Vic Carucci: Bills still should make Allen opening-day starter Allen showed the proper level of maturity and leadership to resist any urge to point fingers. He rightfully accepted some of the blame for not always being quick enough to make throws, no doubt because he wasn't always sure of what he was seeing across the line from an accomplished and well-coached defense. "I didn't do a good enough job getting the ball out on time, getting it to our playmakers," Allen said. "You know, holding onto the ball is not going be too great most of the time. I've got to do a better job, but there's a lot to learn from." and Yes, Peterman looked far more impressive. He needed only two throws to account for more passing yards (35) than Allen had in six completions. He looked more poised and in control. Peterman also wasn't going up against pass-rushing stud Carl Lawson, who had two-and-a-half of the five sacks, or Dunlap or any of the Bengals' other front-liners. For the record, Allen didn't see his performance as a backward step. "No, not at all," he said. "Getting out there with the ones, obviously, it's moving really fast. To see that speed, it was eye-opening. They have a really good defense and they came out and they brought it. "But at the same time, we had plays in place where they could have worked if I got the ball out on time. It just didn't happen enough tonight, but like I said, we'll just continue to grow." and So how long is long enough to wait before putting Allen on the field? What is the sense in allowing Peterman to take a beating in the meantime? What will that prove, other than McDermott, his coaching staff and General Manager Brandon Beane losing valuable time to get Allen experience? Edited August 27, 2018 by transplantbillsfan
Aussie Joe Posted August 27, 2018 Posted August 27, 2018 I don't think it matters who is starting week 1, the three of them will all be getting a turn before too long starting behind this sieve of an OL.. 1
Boatdrinks Posted August 27, 2018 Posted August 27, 2018 7 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said: Gotta be honest, I might disagree with Vic’s take here... we might need to throw Peterman it McCarron to the wolves and pray they rise to the occasion while putting Allen on bubble wrap because our starting OL might be historically bad, but... https://buffalonews.com/2018/08/26/vic-carucci-bills-still-should-make-allen-opening-day-starter/?utm_term=Autofeed&utm_campaign=puma&utm_medium=social&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1535334589 Vic Carucci: Bills still should make Allen opening-day starter Allen showed the proper level of maturity and leadership to resist any urge to point fingers. He rightfully accepted some of the blame for not always being quick enough to make throws, no doubt because he wasn't always sure of what he was seeing across the line from an accomplished and well-coached defense. "I didn't do a good enough job getting the ball out on time, getting it to our playmakers," Allen said. "You know, holding onto the ball is not going be too great most of the time. I've got to do a better job, but there's a lot to learn from." and Yes, Peterman looked far more impressive. He needed only two throws to account for more passing yards (35) than Allen had in six completions. He looked more poised and in control. Peterman also wasn't going up against pass-rushing stud Carl Lawson, who had two-and-a-half of the five sacks, or Dunlap or any of the Bengals' other front-liners. For the record, Allen didn't see his performance as a backward step. "No, not at all," he said. "Getting out there with the ones, obviously, it's moving really fast. To see that speed, it was eye-opening. They have a really good defense and they came out and they brought it. "But at the same time, we had plays in place where they could have worked if I got the ball out on time. It just didn't happen enough tonight, but like I said, we'll just continue to grow." and So how long is long enough to wait before putting Allen on the field? What is the sense in allowing Peterman to take a beating in the meantime? What will that prove, other than McDermott, his coaching staff and General Manager Brandon Beane losing valuable time to get Allen experience? The sense is it will be Peterman taking the beating, not Allen. Allen will get in there soon enough ( probably by mid season when they’re out of the playoffs) and hopefully the OL issues are worked out somewhat. 1
TheFunPolice Posted August 27, 2018 Posted August 27, 2018 AJ Mccarron will be the starter.... Get your jerseys today! 1
Aussie Joe Posted August 28, 2018 Posted August 28, 2018 On 5/22/2018 at 5:40 PM, transplantbillsfan said: I think it's Josh Allen. I'll be fine if McCarron wins it. I'll be absolutely floored if Peterman wins it... I think he's more likely on the practice squad than under center week 1. I think Allen has like a 57% chance. McCarron has maybe a 38% chance. Peterman has a 5% chance, if that. Allen is obviously the choice of this regime long term. Beane has questioned publicly the media perception of Allen as "raw." Dabol said he has a plan for him and was said to be on him like white on rice all rookie minicamp. It just feels inevitable that the most talented QB who's already the Apple of McBeane's Eyes will win the starting job against one scrub with a noodle arm and one QB with some potential, 4 years on the bench and a handful of quality NFL starts, but also a guy who made it through the 1st wave of Free Agency before Beane finally settling on him. The physical ability is there. The smarts are there. The experience under center is there. The work ethic is there. #17 under center on Sunday, September 9th in Baltimore... what say you? So Peterman 5% chance? 1
transplantbillsfan Posted August 28, 2018 Author Posted August 28, 2018 11 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said: So Peterman 5% chance? Now? No, obviously not. I'd say Peterman and Allen have about an even 40% chance to start and McCarron is at 20% right now. 1
transplantbillsfan Posted August 31, 2018 Author Posted August 31, 2018 We're going right up to the wire folks and even the coach doesn't know... (even if he obviously knows)
GreggTX Posted August 31, 2018 Posted August 31, 2018 Petermann has had the best preseason by a mile, but unfortunately, against the other teams' 2's and 3's. I don't want Josh anywhere near the field until he and his OL are ready. 1
Warcodered Posted August 31, 2018 Posted August 31, 2018 7 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said: We're going right up to the wire folks and even the coach doesn't know... (even if he obviously knows) I guess the question is how long he can keep it quiet running up to the Season Opener.
transplantbillsfan Posted August 31, 2018 Author Posted August 31, 2018 1 hour ago, GreggTX said: Petermann has had the best preseason by a mile, but unfortunately, against the other teams' 2's and 3's. I don't want Josh anywhere near the field until he and his OL are ready. I just think there's more to this preseason than Peterman's production. Don't you get the sense that it's manufactured production? https://www.instagram.com/p/Bm_hoi3hzI7/ McDermott admitted Daboll showed too much on offense vs the Panthers, thus severely holding the offense back, since then, making it difficult to grade the other QBs. I don't think anyone has a clue at this point, but I'll stick with my original prediction that Allen is our starting QB week 1. I think that last preseason game shuffling OL in and out was as much a test as anything else. Allen definitely didn't produce the way he had the previous 2 games, but he also protected the football... something McDermott clearly values considering he gave Picked-off-again Peterman just a half before recommitting to Taylor as the starter last year. I think McDermott simply can't ignore the pick-six per game that Peterman is solely because of his weak arm. I think that there's a good chance that this preseason was as much about building up Peterman's confidence again after his abysmal start in his limited regular season action as it was about seeing if Allen is ready to start yet. After all, backup QBs might need to play, and if they do, you'll prefer they don't throw 5 INTs in a half. Both of those missions look like they're about accomplished.
Buffalo Barbarian Posted August 31, 2018 Posted August 31, 2018 Had to switch to Peterman, don't want Allen killed, once we get way more talent around him next year then FULL SPEED AHEAD !!!
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