transplantbillsfan Posted September 1, 2018 Author Posted September 1, 2018 On 9/1/2018 at 5:49 AM, Figster said: Luckily for me I'm one of the few posters that likes all our guys and want them all to succeed. Expand
transplantbillsfan Posted September 1, 2018 Author Posted September 1, 2018 On 9/1/2018 at 6:34 AM, Figster said: Heres something else you might find funny laugh when you see Allen 3rd on the depth chart, lol Expand What are you drinking? Beer? Wine? The hard stuff? This is drunk Fig. It's gotta be.
Sky Diver Posted September 1, 2018 Posted September 1, 2018 Allen clearly isn’t ready so that leaves McCarron and Peterman. If you follow the true process, both will play against Baltimore and we’ll see who wins the team. The competition doesn’t have to end in preseason.
Doc Posted September 1, 2018 Posted September 1, 2018 Few rookie QB's are ready to start game 1. But many still do. That being said, I think Peterman starts and is given the first 4 games as an audition. If he goes 2-2 or better, he remains starter. If not, Allen starts. 2
Sky Diver Posted September 1, 2018 Posted September 1, 2018 (edited) On 9/1/2018 at 1:39 PM, 26CornerBlitz said: Please stop this Alabama madness! Expand Explain the “madness”. Have McCarron and Peterman alternate series. Let the best man win. Edited September 1, 2018 by Sky Diver
26CornerBlitz Posted September 1, 2018 Posted September 1, 2018 On 9/1/2018 at 1:44 PM, Sky Diver said: Explain the “madness”. Expand McCarron will likely be the 3rd QB who'll be in street clothes.
stony Posted September 1, 2018 Posted September 1, 2018 On 9/1/2018 at 1:44 PM, Sky Diver said: Explain the “madness”. Expand Treating the first regular season game like a preseason game?
Sky Diver Posted September 1, 2018 Posted September 1, 2018 On 9/1/2018 at 1:46 PM, stony said: Treating the first regular season game like a preseason game? Expand I’m not seeing the connection with the preseason.
stony Posted September 1, 2018 Posted September 1, 2018 On 9/1/2018 at 1:44 PM, Sky Diver said: Explain the “madness”. Have McCarron and Peterman alternate series. Let the best man win. Expand I don't know how to explain this w/o being rude. 3
Sky Diver Posted September 1, 2018 Posted September 1, 2018 On 9/1/2018 at 1:50 PM, stony said: I don't know how to explain this w/o being rude. Expand Explain. I am used to rudeness.
Teddy KGB Posted September 1, 2018 Posted September 1, 2018 On 9/1/2018 at 1:39 PM, 26CornerBlitz said: Please stop this Alabama madness! Expand Vote of confidence for Peterman!
Hapless Bills Fan Posted September 1, 2018 Posted September 1, 2018 On 9/1/2018 at 1:38 PM, Sky Diver said: Allen clearly isn’t ready so that leaves McCarron and Peterman. If you follow the true process, both will play against Baltimore and we’ll see who wins the team. The competition doesn’t have to end in preseason. Expand Yes. Yes, in any kind of sane football world the competition does in fact have to end with preseason. If that's McDermott's "true process", it's a Bad Process.
Teddy KGB Posted September 1, 2018 Posted September 1, 2018 On 9/1/2018 at 1:53 PM, Sky Diver said: Explain. I am used to rudeness. Expand This isn’t the Florida gators. Nfl teams don’t do this. You already know this though
Doc Posted September 1, 2018 Posted September 1, 2018 On 9/1/2018 at 1:56 PM, Hapless Bills Fan said: Yes. Yes, in any kind of sane football world the competition does in fact have to end with preseason. If that's McDermott's "true process", it's a Bad Process. Expand They're not going to alternate QB's in Baltimore unless Peterman (or Allen) gets injured or throws 5 INT's in the first half.
ALF Posted September 1, 2018 Posted September 1, 2018 I'm convinced Allen is mature enough to deal with a poor OL . As long as Daboll gives some receivers short dump off routes to bail him out. Peterman is looking good for the backup job , AJ if there is a injury. 1
Hapless Bills Fan Posted September 1, 2018 Posted September 1, 2018 On 9/1/2018 at 1:47 PM, Sky Diver said: I’m not seeing the connection with the preseason. Expand I will spell it out explicitly. In preseason, teams without a starter alternate QB to evaluate those QB. In regular season, teams with any kind of sense or pretentions of wanting to win, do not. They change QB during a game only in case of injury or for occasional "tricks". The reason for this practice is that alternating QB is not optimal for the team. It's not optimal for the WR, who need to accustom themselves to the "feel" of a QB passes. It's not optimal for the 10 other guys on offense, who need to accustom themselves to a QB cadence. It's not optimal for ball security on the center to QB snap, and on the QB to RB handoffs. It's not optimal for pre-game practice during the week, where instead of getting all the snaps each QB would only get half. The only reason it's done in preseason, is that in preseason winning is irrelevant. It doesn't count. The priority is to evaluate players. In regular season, winning is the primary goal of each team in each game. If the coaches haven't been able to perform the needed evaluation in the preceding month, either they aren't very good evaluators or all choices are so flawed that it really doesn't matter. Flip a coin and move on. I repeat, any process wherein preseason evaluation strategies extend into regular season is a Bad Process. 4
26CornerBlitz Posted September 1, 2018 Posted September 1, 2018 (edited) On 9/1/2018 at 2:02 PM, Hapless Bills Fan said: I will spell it out explicitly. In preseason, teams without a starter alternate QB to evaluate those QB. In regular season, teams with any kind of sense or pretentions of wanting to win, do not. They change QB during a game only in case of injury or for occasional "tricks". The reason for this practice is that alternating QB is not optimal for the team. It's not optimal for the WR, who need to accustom themselves to the "feel" of a QB passes. It's not optimal for the 10 other guys on offense, who need to accustom themselves to a QB cadence. It's not optimal for ball security on the center to QB snap, and on the QB to RB handoffs. It's not optimal for pre-game practice during the week, where instead of getting all the snaps each QB would only get half. The only reason it's done in preseason, is that in preseason winning is irrelevant. It doesn't count. The priority is to evaluate players. In regular season, winning is the primary goal of each team in each game. If the coaches haven't been able to perform the needed evaluation in the preceding month, either they aren't very good evaluators or all choices are so flawed that it really doesn't matter. Flip a coin and move on. I repeat, any process wherein preseason evaluation strategies extend into regular season is a Bad Process. Expand It's a criminal lack of basic football understanding at an even rudimentary level that you even had to offer an explanation. Edited September 1, 2018 by 26CornerBlitz
Hapless Bills Fan Posted September 1, 2018 Posted September 1, 2018 On 9/1/2018 at 1:44 PM, Sky Diver said: Explain the “madness”. Have McCarron and Peterman alternate series. Let the best man win. Expand The point of regular season games is for the team to win, not to hold a QB picking contest to be sure they have the very best guy. Pick one and go. On 9/1/2018 at 2:04 PM, 26CornerBlitz said: It's a criminal lack of basic football understanding that you even had to offer an explanation. Expand Or something. But I give the benefit of the doubt. On 9/1/2018 at 2:01 PM, ALF said: I'm convinced Allen is mature enough to deal with a poor OL . As long as Daboll gives some receivers short dump off routes to bail him out. Expand I'm not. Also, earlier in preseason, Daboll was having the TE and RB "chip" then release which would be good strategy given our OL - but slows the development of the check down route.
PlayoffsPlease Posted September 1, 2018 Posted September 1, 2018 Imagine yourself a defensive coordinator game planning to the Bills. Peterman is so much more limited than Allen, game planning is dramatically easier. Allen gives the team a meaningful edge as the starter even before the first snap. If the team wants to "test" Allen by going full bore pass rush on every play, then McCoy runs for 200 yards. This is an easy decision. Start Allen.
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