LABILLBACKER Posted May 21, 2018 Posted May 21, 2018 31 minutes ago, FrankoElTanko said: A little bit of J. Mills (@SD) type effort during the infamous Peterman start, lmao You mean when our entire oline mysteriously decided to tank....
26CornerBlitz Posted May 21, 2018 Posted May 21, 2018 1 minute ago, Peter said: Not his call . . . but it is his body and his health and it was his wish. Oh well. Onward.
Saxum Posted May 21, 2018 Posted May 21, 2018 17 minutes ago, john wawrow said: stop that. that's horribly insensitive comment referring to a person who was highly respected in his field and did a fine job in representing his clients and protecting their rights. you might not like some of the ramifications of what happened, but if I had a son playing in the NFL, Parker would have been the agent I would want representing him. there were few more responsible or better. jw No. He used contract of one player holding up negotiations on it until another player was done. That was unethical. 1
Peter Posted May 21, 2018 Posted May 21, 2018 1 minute ago, John from Riverside said: Peter, First I need to see that is even the case. I thought Groy filled in just fine for him when called upon. I actually like Groy . . . but I really would have liked Richie and Groy together. I hate the fact that we (intentionally or unintentionally or a combination of the two) have more and more holes to fill
JohnC Posted May 21, 2018 Posted May 21, 2018 (edited) 23 minutes ago, john wawrow said: stop that. that's horribly insensitive comment referring to a person who was highly respected in his field and did a fine job in representing his clients and protecting their rights. you might not like some of the ramifications of what happened, but if I had a son playing in the NFL, Parker would have been the agent I would want representing him. there were few more responsible or better. jw Do you know the person who is the most happy that he was represented by Parker? Jason Peters. He ended up with a contract commensurate with his talents, having a long career with a team where when it is over with he will be under consideration for the HOF and to top it off he has a Super Bowl ring on his finger. For those people who believe that an agent should work in the interest of a team at the expense of the player they are representing I say they are being illogical and not understanding that the NFL is a business. To put things in perspective with respect to the trading of Jason Peters it is going to go down in its inglorious history of being one of the dumbest decisions that this organization has made. This team willingly paid out gargantuan contracts to wretchedly mediocre players such as Derrick Dockery and Langston Walker but traded a player that they drafted and developed because they didn't want to pay him what he was worth. Stupidity at a stupendous level. Edited May 21, 2018 by JohnC 5 4
Peter Posted May 21, 2018 Posted May 21, 2018 1 minute ago, JohnC said: Do you know the person who is the most happy that he was represented by Parker? Jason Peters. He ended up with a contract commensurate with his talents, having a long career with a team where when it is over with he will be under consideration for the HOF and to top it off he has a Super Bowl ring on his finger. For those people who believe that an agent should work in the interest of a team at the expense of the player they are representing I say they are being illogical and not understanding that the NFL is a business. To put things in perspective with respect to the trading of Jason Peters it is going to go down in its inglorious history of being one of the dumbest decisions that this organization has made. This team willing paid out gargantuan contracts to wretchedly mediocre players such as Derrick Dockery and Langston Walker but traded a player that they drafted and developed because they didn't want to pay him what he was worth. Stupidity at a stupendous level. I may be in the minority here, but I really wish we had kept Jason Peters.
Lurker Posted May 21, 2018 Posted May 21, 2018 1 hour ago, Kirby Jackson said: How long until he fails a drug test? ?♂️ Has he ever failed one before? Or are you just hoping he does?
IDBillzFan Posted May 21, 2018 Posted May 21, 2018 1 minute ago, John from Riverside said: I dont give a damn about his character.....I worry about his committment. One might argue a man of character would not renege on his signed commitment to a team who gave him a GIANT second chance. 1
Delete This Account Posted May 21, 2018 Posted May 21, 2018 3 minutes ago, JohnC said: Do you know the person who is the most happy that he was represented by Parker? Jason Peters. He ended up with a contract commensurate with his talents, having a long career with a team where when it is over with he will be under consideration for the HOF and to top it off he has a Super Bowl ring on his finger. For those people who believe that an agent should work in the interest of a team at the expense of the player they are representing I say they are being illogical and not understanding that the NFL is a business. To put things in perspective with respect to the trading of Jason Peters it is going to go down in its inglorious history of being one of the dumbest decisions that this organization has made. This team willing paid out gargantuan contracts to wretchedly mediocre players such as Derrick Dockery and Langston Walker but traded a player that they drafted and developed because they didn't want to pay him what he was worth. Stupidity at a stupendous level. I can't like this post enough. jw 1 1
JohnC Posted May 21, 2018 Posted May 21, 2018 2 minutes ago, Peter said: I may be in the minority here, but I really wish we had kept Jason Peters. The Jason Peters fiasco was a reflection on how inept this organization function. They religiously fought to save a penny when in the end they lost a dollar. A mom and pop operation in the modern world of a complicated business. 3
Delete This Account Posted May 21, 2018 Posted May 21, 2018 4 minutes ago, Peter said: I may be in the minority here, but I really wish we had kept Jason Peters. Sure. It would've been the smart move to make. Unfortunately, as JohnC notes, the Bills so mishandled the situation that it lead to Peters' departure. So not only did they lose Peters, they overpaid for Dockery and Walker, who they wound up on the hook paying after both were gone within a couple of years. It was a breath-taking example of really how inept the Bills were. jw 3
Peter Posted May 21, 2018 Posted May 21, 2018 1 minute ago, LABillzFan said: One might argue a man of character would not renege on his signed commitment to a team who gave him a GIANT second chance. One might argue that a man of character would not ask another man to take less than the team already agreed to pay him. That bit can go both ways. Yes, I know, Richie signed the new deal but obviously had buyer's remorse after doing so. After the All Pro season he had last year (and the physical toll the game takes on players), it is understandable that he could have buyer's remorse. 2 minutes ago, john wawrow said: Sure. It would've been the smart move to make. Unfortunately, as JohnC notes, the Bills so mishandled the situation that it lead to Peters' departure. So not only did they lose Peters, they overpaid for Dockery and Walker, who they wound up on the hook paying after both were gone within a couple of years. It was a breath-taking example of really how inept the Bills were. jw Indeed, it was the "gift" that kept on giving. Ugh. It was especially painful because the Bills actually discovered and nurtured the diamond in the rough of the former tight end. It was even more painful to see the career that he had with a team from Philadelphia (of all places)(for those of us who have hated the Flyers since the Stanley Cup so many years ago).
JohnC Posted May 21, 2018 Posted May 21, 2018 3 minutes ago, john wawrow said: I can't like this post enough. jw The ugly past is the past. I'm confident that with the Pegulas as owners and with a more enlightened and sophisticated football operation under McDermott and Beane these types of nonsensical decisions will not occur again. All organizations in retrospect make bad decisions. That's just part of the business. But making a decision that doesn't work out is qualitatively different from making a decision that at the time makes no freaking sense. I'm very optimistic with this new regime. While Whaley took a more short-sighted patchwork approach to running the operation this McBeane tandem has a more coherent and longer view toward how the operation should be run. There was never a quick fix to rebuilding this roster and reconfiguring the cap structure. It is being done in a systematic manner. Overall, I'm very bullish about this regime and what they are doing. 1
YoloinOhio Posted May 21, 2018 Posted May 21, 2018 2 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said: Agreed. I don't get why we just cut him loose? Are there cap ramifications? I would assume there are agent ramifications
oldmanfan Posted May 21, 2018 Posted May 21, 2018 Peters signed a contract then he and his agent decided he didn't have to honor it. As I recall the Bills were willing to renegotiate but wanted him to come in first to have his injury evaluated and he refused. I agree they should have kept him and done a different deal. But let's make sure both sides of the equation are. Peters and his agent weren't choirboys. 1
FLbills Posted May 21, 2018 Posted May 21, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, Lfod said: I liked Incognito. I just don't like the idea of having players that are not fully committed. The second a person hints at being non committed it's time to move on. Even if moving on is tough. Imo, even if a person hints at retirement, some still possess a good work ethic and will put in the work and sometimes even excel, go out with a so called bang. I'm not saying that everyone has it but he strikes me as someone who does. Again, just my .02 Edited May 21, 2018 by FLbills Guess I should have read further pages...lol
YoloinOhio Posted May 21, 2018 Posted May 21, 2018 2 hours ago, Chicharito said: Take this for what it's worth I was told by a security guard at one bills drive that Ritchie called the pegulas hammered one night and said a few choice words to them and he is 100% banned from buffalo bills property. It was reported that he called the Pegulas to let them know he was retiring. I had a feeling it wasn’t a pleasant call. I also said they should let the security guards know to not let him in if he tried to show up due to his crazy tweets. So yeah, I believe it.
Mopreme Posted May 21, 2018 Posted May 21, 2018 Why would the Bills release him fron the retired list? Any benefit for the Bills? If not then they should have kept him there for back so he cannot play for anyone else.
NoSaint Posted May 21, 2018 Posted May 21, 2018 36 minutes ago, Lurker said: Has he ever failed one before? Or are you just hoping he does? He has admitted to drug use in his past and has also been acting pretty erratic soooooo I don’t think it’s a crazy thing to wonder
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