ExiledInIllinois Posted May 19, 2018 Posted May 19, 2018 (edited) 32 minutes ago, /dev/null said: Dude, if you're really that butthurt just call the Canadians and ask them to "redistribute" a Cup to the Sabres ?Canadiens.. No thanks... It's being redistributed as we speak. One team is enough every year. 16 minutes ago, Warcodered said: Wow really how about having an actual conversation about it. There is clearly a place between where we are now and taking all the guns away. No... Feeling sadness for the victims is the thread theme when these things happen. Moral high ground. All other discussions get cast down to the Sodemites... ? Edited May 19, 2018 by ExiledInIllinois
thebug Posted May 19, 2018 Posted May 19, 2018 2 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said: ?Canadiens.. No thanks... It's being redistributed as we speak. One team is enough every year. Obviously not the place for it, but I don’t get your problem with the NHL and Vegas. They picked the players that were available from other teams. Those teams could have protected those players and there were plenty of players that were available that weee not selected. The fix is in because they did a good job?
ExiledInIllinois Posted May 19, 2018 Posted May 19, 2018 43 minutes ago, MakeBuffaloGreatAgain said: Ah, yes. But this would be like turning a welfare check into a million dollar business. Where most use their welfare checks to be lazy and leach, we used our check to better ourselves, overachieve, and prove everyone wrong. When Vegas sports books have you at 500/1 to win the Stanley Cup at the begging of the season, then I’m gonna guess that you didn’t think we had an all star team either. How many goals did Karlsson have last year? 6? Yup, there’s an all-star. News Flash... It's Las Vegas, of course they had them @ 500/1. It's a crooked city.
ExiledInIllinois Posted May 19, 2018 Posted May 19, 2018 (edited) 11 minutes ago, thebug said: Obviously not the place for it, but I don’t get your problem with the NHL and Vegas. They picked the players that were available from other teams. Those teams could have protected those players and there were plenty of players that were available that weee not selected. The fix is in because they did a good job? It's really one player that is anchoring the team right now... And he's won the last two Cups. Teams should have been allowed to offer up their scrubs. Not good prospects. Why give the better pieces to the expansion draft your competitor? Build from scratch. Like past expansions. Edited May 19, 2018 by ExiledInIllinois
MakeBuffaloGreatAgain Posted May 19, 2018 Posted May 19, 2018 10 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said: News Flash... It's Las Vegas, of course they had them @ 500/1. It's a crooked city. Sure makes sense, the sports books love to lose money... I’m not sure if you are being serious here. How does it benefit Vegas to lose a TON of money? this should be good. 1 minute ago, ExiledInIllinois said: It's really one player that is anchoring the team right now... And he's won the last two Cups. Teams should have been allowed to offer up their scrubs. Not good prospects. Why give the better pieces to the expansion draft your competitor? Build from scratch. Like past expansions. By that logic, LA Kings should have beaten us with Quick. Wonder why they didn’t.
Warcodered Posted May 19, 2018 Posted May 19, 2018 16 minutes ago, MakeBuffaloGreatAgain said: There actually isn’t. The end game is total gun control. This is an actual conversation. How many school shooters used extended clips and bump stocks? How many school shootings would have been prevented by proposed gun legislation? And vice versa, how many lives have been saved by citizens using personal firearms? Now that I think about it, that kid that shot up the school a couple months ago wasn’t disqualified to purchase a gun because Obama made a law that discouraged schools from reporting violent crimes because its racist. Good call. That would be a neat trick to pull off in a country whose citizens have such a hard on for owning guns. I'd also say a main component is working with providing mental health services which is so often the issue. Not to mention the fact that the other issue with gun ownership is the massive number of suicides and accidents.
MakeBuffaloGreatAgain Posted May 19, 2018 Posted May 19, 2018 Just now, Warcodered said: That would be a neat trick to pull off in a country whose citizens have such a hard on for owning guns. I'd also say a main component is working with providing mental health services which is so often the issue. Not to mention the fact that the other issue with gun ownership is the massive number of suicides and accidents. So without guns, suicides stop? More lives are saved by guns than are taken by suicide or accidents.
Warcodered Posted May 19, 2018 Posted May 19, 2018 (edited) 2 minutes ago, MakeBuffaloGreatAgain said: So without guns, suicides stop? More lives are saved by guns than are taken by suicide or accidents. Really can you provide the numbers on that because that doesn't seem right. EDIT: I should also add that a big part of this part was the need for better mental health care in this country. Edited May 19, 2018 by Warcodered
ExiledInIllinois Posted May 19, 2018 Posted May 19, 2018 3 minutes ago, MakeBuffaloGreatAgain said: Sure makes sense, the sports books love to lose money... I’m not sure if you are being serious here. How does it benefit Vegas to lose a TON of money? this should be good. By that logic, LA Kings should have beaten us with Quick. Wonder why they didn’t. Did Quick win the last 2. I thought he only has one. MAF I think has 4 or more? Vegas might lose on the few that take 500/1... But it's an investment for franchise and fans on hook.... We should take it to working thread: NHL Playoffs. 2 minutes ago, Warcodered said: Really can you provide the numbers on that because that doesn't seem right. EDIT: I should also add that a big part of this part was the need for better mental health care in this country. We can't lock them up anymore like prior to the 1980s.
MakeBuffaloGreatAgain Posted May 19, 2018 Posted May 19, 2018 2 minutes ago, Warcodered said: That would be a neat trick to pull off in a country whose citizens have such a hard on for owning guns. I'd also say a main component is working with providing mental health services which is so often the issue. Not to mention the fact that the other issue with gun ownership is the massive number of suicides and accidents. I guess my main beef with Libs is that they are constantly trying to control and run everyone else’s lives. I am more libertarian than republican. There are a lot of things the Republican establishment does that I disagree with. I have always believe in live and let live. And the people control the government, not the other way around.
ExiledInIllinois Posted May 19, 2018 Posted May 19, 2018 4 minutes ago, MakeBuffaloGreatAgain said: So without guns, suicides stop? More lives are saved by guns than are taken by suicide or accidents. I'd like to see the #s too...
thebug Posted May 19, 2018 Posted May 19, 2018 8 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said: It's really one player that is anchoring the team right now... And he's won the last two Cups. Teams should have been allowed to offer up their scrubs. Not good prospects. Why give the better pieces to the expansion draft your competitor? Build from scratch. Like past expansions. Murray was the goalie that won both of those cups. That’s why they kept him and exposed MAF.
MakeBuffaloGreatAgain Posted May 19, 2018 Posted May 19, 2018 2 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said: I'd like to see the #s too... https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.forbes.com/sites/paulhsieh/2018/03/20/any-study-of-gun-violence-should-include-how-guns-save-lives/amp/ how do I drop the mic in this forum? 6 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said: I'd like to see the #s too... I don’t blame you guys for believing in feelings and not facts. It happens to all of us.
ExiledInIllinois Posted May 19, 2018 Posted May 19, 2018 9 minutes ago, thebug said: Murray was the goalie that won both of those cups. That’s why they kept him and exposed MAF. Other teams would have snapped him up! They got nothing for him...
Warcodered Posted May 19, 2018 Posted May 19, 2018 3 minutes ago, MakeBuffaloGreatAgain said: I guess my main beef with Libs is that they are constantly trying to control and run everyone else’s lives. I am more libertarian than republican. There are a lot of things the Republican establishment does that I disagree with. I have always believe in live and let live. And the people control the government, not the other way around. I get that and have to say I'd want the government as out my business as possible. Still some of it does make sense to me I mean to drive a car we have to get a license which indicates we've proven we can safely operate a vehicle because they're dangerous. I can't say I don't think people that own guns shouldn't have to complete some form of gun safety course for their own safety at least. I have to say when Obamacare happened it really pissed me off. The idea of having to have insurance or pay a fine and comparisons to car insurance bugged me too(huh cars again weird). Eventually I got my head around the idea looking at other countries and realizing it was basically a ****ty tax for ****ty socialized medicine. Staying away from that issue I have to say I wish they had either just gone ahead and done it(socialized medicine) or not because the half-assing they did was never going to solve the problem.
thebug Posted May 19, 2018 Posted May 19, 2018 1 minute ago, ExiledInIllinois said: Other teams would have snapped him up! They got nothing for him... He was an insurance policy for the cup run. It worked for them.
ExiledInIllinois Posted May 19, 2018 Posted May 19, 2018 Just now, thebug said: He was an insurance policy for the cup run. It worked for them. And Las Vegas. No way should he have been allowed to go to one team. Stick him on the open market.
thebug Posted May 19, 2018 Posted May 19, 2018 Just now, ExiledInIllinois said: And Las Vegas. No way should he have been allowed to go to one team. Stick him on the open market. You don’t watch a lot of hockey do you?
SinceThe70s Posted May 19, 2018 Posted May 19, 2018 2 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said: Other teams would have snapped him up! They got nothing for him... Do you REALLY believe that an NHL expansion teams success has any relevance to what happened at that school today?
ExiledInIllinois Posted May 19, 2018 Posted May 19, 2018 1 minute ago, SinceThe70s said: Do you REALLY believe that an NHL expansion teams success has any relevance to what happened at that school today? Sorry... Off Topic, won't reply anymore to side bar. Sorry for rocking your world. Will keep it tidy. 17 minutes ago, MakeBuffaloGreatAgain said: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.forbes.com/sites/paulhsieh/2018/03/20/any-study-of-gun-violence-should-include-how-guns-save-lives/amp/ how do I drop the mic in this forum? I don’t blame you guys for believing in feelings and not facts. It happens to all of us. You're the one who is going on feelings: "The exact number of DGUs is not precisely known. There are reasons to think the actual number may be higher or lower than the figures cited. For example, some respondents to surveys may consciously or unconsciously exaggerate the degree of peril they were in, which could lead to an overestimate of DGUs."
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