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Was just looking over college DT stats; Phillips compares well with Suh, identical height and weight,  Phillips had a few more total tackles and Suh had 3 more sacks and 7 more tackles for a loss, but stats are pretty close. 

 

What am I missing, did Suh face tougher competition? The small differential in numbers may be far greater than I am giving credit for, but I would have though Phillips would have been touted higher.

 

 

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I feel like suh faced better olines and more smash mouth offenses in the big ten 

 

while Harrison faced more open fast paced offense in the pac 12 

 

2 different styles 

 

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I don’t think Phillips is nearly as “dominating”, but he’s incredibly productive and I was very surprised he dropped to us. 

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Found this on NFL.com:

 

 

Weaknesses
  • Has build of a guard
  • Has higher center of gravity than most nose guards
  • Plays too straight-legged robbing him of base width and balance
  • Finds himself on the ground too often
  • More active than athletic
  • Looks plodding in lateral movement and change of direction
  • Unable to sink and shift with adequate change of direction
  • Quick lineman can cross his face and find positioning to wall him off
  • Lacks a plan as a rusher
  • Can get better with using hands as rush weapons
  • Secondary rush can get bogged down
Sources Tell Us

"I'm kind of surprised at how high the media scout types are on him. Where do you play him? Loses balance which makes nose tough and he doesnt have athleticism to play with three-technique. But I get that he makes a bunch of plays and he's obviously a strong guy. I just see him as a day three player." -- NFC West Coast scout
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2 minutes ago, Augie said:

I don’t think Phillips is nearly as “dominating”, but he’s incredibly productive and I was very surprised he dropped to us. 

If only a high end offensive lineman had also dropped to us.

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Just now, Formerly Allan in MD said:

If only a high end offensive lineman had also dropped to us.

 

Rome was not built in a day. I’m praying for one or two more decent random signings, and a nice influx next year. I firmly believe in getting a QB and building both lines. 

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3 minutes ago, PIZ said:

Found this on NFL.com:

 

 

Weaknesses
  • Has build of a guard
  • Has higher center of gravity than most nose guards
  • Plays too straight-legged robbing him of base width and balance
  • Finds himself on the ground too often
  • More active than athletic
  • Looks plodding in lateral movement and change of direction
  • Unable to sink and shift with adequate change of direction
  • Quick lineman can cross his face and find positioning to wall him off
  • Lacks a plan as a rusher
  • Can get better with using hands as rush weapons
  • Secondary rush can get bogged down
Sources Tell Us

"I'm kind of surprised at how high the media scout types are on him. Where do you play him? Loses balance which makes nose tough and he doesnt have athleticism to play with three-technique. But I get that he makes a bunch of plays and he's obviously a strong guy. I just see him as a day three player." -- NFC West Coast scout

Party pooper.  Good coaching can fix some of this.

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5 minutes ago, PIZ said:

Found this on NFL.com:

 

 

Weaknesses
  • Has build of a guard
  • Has higher center of gravity than most nose guards
  • Plays too straight-legged robbing him of base width and balance
  • Finds himself on the ground too often
  • More active than athletic
  • Looks plodding in lateral movement and change of direction
  • Unable to sink and shift with adequate change of direction
  • Quick lineman can cross his face and find positioning to wall him off
  • Lacks a plan as a rusher
  • Can get better with using hands as rush weapons
  • Secondary rush can get bogged down
Sources Tell Us

"I'm kind of surprised at how high the media scout types are on him. Where do you play him? Loses balance which makes nose tough and he doesnt have athleticism to play with three-technique. But I get that he makes a bunch of plays and he's obviously a strong guy. I just see him as a day three player." -- NFC West Coast scout

Other than that, what's not to like? Don't forget, they said Kyle Williams was not strong on the point, could be  driven off the line, and likely would never be a starter.

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4 minutes ago, Formerly Allan in MD said:

Party pooper.  Good coaching can fix some of this.

 

I love the pick.  He was the guy I wanted the most in the draft.

 

 

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1 minute ago, PIZ said:

 

I love the pick.  He was the guy I wanted the most in the draft.

 

 

 

I didnt think he would be there in the second. I was so happy he was there in the third. He is going to play DT for us for a long time.

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The tape says it all.  Suh was physically dominant in college and had an explosion that Phillips simply doesn't have.  Phillips gets the job done but lacks the explosion.  That's why a lot of his tackles are past the line of scrimmage, not behind it like Suh's.  

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1 hour ago, mikemac2001 said:

I feel like suh faced better olines and more smash mouth offenses in the big ten 

 

while Harrison faced more open fast paced offense in the pac 12 

 

2 different styles 

 

Which is even more impressive for Phillips. 

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1 hour ago, Buffalo30 said:

The tape says it all.  Suh was physically dominant in college and had an explosion that Phillips simply doesn't have.  Phillips gets the job done but lacks the explosion.  That's why a lot of his tackles are past the line of scrimmage, not behind it like Suh's.  

 

Thats not true at all. Phillips had lots of TFL and tackles at the LOS. He had to play nose against double teams, he did not have many pass rush opportunities. Phillips has more athletic ability than given credit for.

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5 minutes ago, CaptnCoke11 said:

Which is even more impressive for Phillips. 

 

 

Pac12 oline va big ten lol

 

he out up numbers bc he is smart and a solid athlete suh just dominated bc he is a freak 

 

not hating on Harrison but you get more tackles if they run more plays now TOL n sacks is different 

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I love the pick but I thought Mo Hurst would’ve been the better fit. Still. I’m excited about the pick. 

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