YoloinOhio Posted May 17, 2018 Posted May 17, 2018 Fish make the list for getting nothing in return for Suh, and Jets make the list for giving up 3 seconds in March to move up 3 spots http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2776135-the-most-boneheaded-moves-of-the-nfl-offseason In March, more than a month before the 2018 NFL draft, the New York Jets traded three second-round picks and the sixth selection to the Indianapolis Colts for the third overall pick. According to Pro Football Focus' Eric Eager's model, the Colts should win that trade about two-thirds of the time. The assumption was the Jets were moving up for a quarterback, which was the case, but the draft didn't shake out as we imagined in March. No. 1 pick Baker Mayfield was not the favorite to go there until the day the Cleveland Browns drafted him, and many assumed the Giants were in the market for a quarterback at No. 2. Instead, the Giants drafted Penn State running back Saquon Barkley, leaving the likes of Sam Darnold, Josh Allen and Josh Rosen—three quarterbacks who were potential first overall picks—all on the board. The Jets selected Darnold at No. 3, but both Allen (No. 7) and Rosen (No. 10), were taken after the sixth overall pick, the selection the Jets originally owned. One has to wonder if New York, after the quarterbacks dropped, would've taken the trade back. If the Jets waited to pull the trigger until April, would they even have made the deal, or would they have sat back at No. 6?
billsfan1959 Posted May 17, 2018 Posted May 17, 2018 I'm not sure the Jets should have been the team criticized in that deal. Had the Colts held that pick until draft night, they might have been able to get a better deal once Darnold slid to three. 7
NextYear'sTheOne Posted May 17, 2018 Posted May 17, 2018 14 minutes ago, Jay_Fixit said: Kinda early... But I do enjoy reading words. I too enjoy words. I also enjoy laughing at the Jets... Don't get me wrong, I think Darnold is a great QB prospect. But giving away what they did to move up three spots, weeks away from the draft was crazy. Reminds me of a similar move made by Doug to get (not Mack, who I thought for sure we were going after) Sammy... 2 minutes ago, billsfan1959 said: I'm not sure the Jets should have been the team criticized in that deal. Had the Colts held that pick until draft night, they might have been able to get a better deal once Darnold slid to three. Probably would have gotten both of our firsts and a second. 1
Soda Popinski Posted May 17, 2018 Posted May 17, 2018 the Jets got their guy. Really all that matters 5 1
Jay_Fixit Posted May 17, 2018 Posted May 17, 2018 1 minute ago, Soda Popinski said: the Jets got their guy. Really all that matters Unless their guy was Mayfield. Darnold was my guy, but now that he’s a New Jersey Jets, I hope for him to bust hard.
JohnBonhamRocks Posted May 17, 2018 Posted May 17, 2018 This article could very well have described the Jets' boneheaded non-move of staying at #6, watching someone else pay the price to get up to #3 and/or #4 and/or #5, thus preventing the Jets from getting their guy. Yeah, the price was steep, but no one will care if Darnold lights up the league. 3
YoloinOhio Posted May 17, 2018 Author Posted May 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, Jay_Fixit said: Unless their guy was Mayfield. Darnold was my guy, but now that he’s a New Jersey Jets, I hope for him to bust hard. I think their guy was mayfield. Not to say they didn’t like Darnold but I think baker was their #1.
ddaryl Posted May 17, 2018 Posted May 17, 2018 (edited) Jets gave up a lot. In hindsight the Jets move was a panic move because it looks like they didn't get their guy and they probably could of stayed at 6 and gotten Darnold.. Hindsight being 20/20 and all Edited May 17, 2018 by ddaryl 1 2 1
cage Posted May 17, 2018 Posted May 17, 2018 7 minutes ago, JohnBonhamRocks said: This article could very well have described the Jets' boneheaded non-move of staying at #6, watching someone else pay the price to get up to #3 and/or #4 and/or #5, thus preventing the Jets from getting their guy. Yeah, the price was steep, but no one will care if Darnold lights up the league. Yeah, I can't fault the Jets for that move.... if they sat at #6 its very likely at least we would have jumped ahead of them and maybe the Cards as well. Clearly they had a preference and weren't content with just one of the four regardless. They got the guy at #3 who everyone believed would be #1 up until a day before the draft.
Captain Hindsight Posted May 17, 2018 Posted May 17, 2018 1 hour ago, ddaryl said: Jets gave up a lot. In hindsight the Jets move was a panic move because it looks like they didn't get their guy and they probably could of stayed at 6 and gotten Darnold.. Hindsight being 20/20 and all Don't worry, I'm ready to provide perfect hindsight when necessary 1 1
NewEra Posted May 17, 2018 Posted May 17, 2018 2 hours ago, billsfan1959 said: I'm not sure the Jets should have been the team criticized in that deal. Had the Colts held that pick until draft night, they might have been able to get a better deal once Darnold slid to three. A better deal than 3 2nd rd picks to move down to a spot where they were able to draft one of the top 3 players in the draft? I doubt it. That deal was perfect for them and I personally don’t think there could be another deal better
Poleshifter Posted May 17, 2018 Posted May 17, 2018 2 hours ago, billsfan1959 said: I'm not sure the Jets should have been the team criticized in that deal. Had the Colts held that pick until draft night, they might have been able to get a better deal once Darnold slid to three. Absolutely. The Jets decided to go for it - move to the #3 spot where they were certain to get one of the top 3 QBs. One of the Jets 2nd rounders is for 2019, which values it as a 3rd this year. Of course it is always costly to move up, but sometimes more costly if you do nothing.
YoloinOhio Posted May 17, 2018 Author Posted May 17, 2018 47 minutes ago, Formerly Allan in MD said: The Gruden thing is pretty strange. I think he is going to fall flat on his face. Just a gut feeling.
White Linen Posted May 17, 2018 Posted May 17, 2018 4 hours ago, NextYear'sTheOne said: Probably would have gotten both of our firsts and a second. Probably? Probably would have cost a heck of a lot more than both 1st's and a second to ask them to slide to 12 vs 6. When you say probably - are you thinking one of our firsts and a second?
DriveFor1Outta5 Posted May 17, 2018 Posted May 17, 2018 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: I think he is going to fall flat on his face. Just a gut feeling. I agree, but 100 million we’ll certainly help cushion the fall.
ticketssince61 Posted May 17, 2018 Posted May 17, 2018 One that I think should make the list but did not was the Giants taking a RB at #2 instead of potential Franchise QB 1
Jpsredemption Posted May 17, 2018 Posted May 17, 2018 Bills have had bonehead off season if I've ever seen one: 1) Signing Star who has underachieved for consecutive years now 2) Overpaying Trent Murphy who has injury concerns and was suspended for PEFS 3) Chris Ivory - really? 4) Not addressing Wide Receiver in a remotely impactful way 5) Trading 2 second round picks for a statistically inferior prospect 6) Leaving the draft with 3 picks in the first 3 rounds when they started with 6 and have a roster full of needs.
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