Saxum Posted May 16, 2018 Posted May 16, 2018 On 5/16/2018 at 11:27 AM, sherpa said: I think you mean Phil Ranallo. Very funny guy. Used to write the "What's up Harry" sports column. His bet stuff was Monday mornings after any Bills game. Delivered that paper for three years. Expand I did basic editing ("Editing assistant") for Courier Express in early 1980's and do not recall one mark on any of his columns for editor to look at it. Excellent writer. Met him once but not via work but via a relative who also served. http://www.buffalosportshallfame.com/member/phil-ranallo/ https://www.wnypapers.com/news/article/featured/2015/12/28/123039/remembering-legendary-sportswriter-phil-ranallo On 5/16/2018 at 1:51 PM, sullim4 said: Serious question - which of the following is a better source of Bills news: The Buffalo News or YoloInOhio and 26CornerBlitz? That's your answer on why TBN is irrelevant. Expand That is hard to tell; Buffalo News does not hide sources via redirection URLs probably getting poster kickbacks. On 5/16/2018 at 3:11 PM, Lurker said: I hate both guys but one clarification. They're columnists, not reporters. Their job is to stir the pot, attract eyeballs (which they do, much like the hosts at 'GR) and generally get people talking about them. Expand If they are "columnists" not reporters then Buffalo Bills can deny them access to press briefings without consequence and should but I am sure they wear the "reporter hat" when they claim press access. On 5/16/2018 at 4:15 PM, ddaryl said: they could re-assign them then.... didn't know there was a journalists union Expand There are no openings in garbage reporting but since they are columnists the News could replace Ann Landers, etc with them and save money. 1
Dr.Sack Posted May 16, 2018 Posted May 16, 2018 On 5/16/2018 at 2:19 PM, Mike in Syracuse said: Print media is a dying entity. It is destined to go the same way as the pager and the walkman. Trying to keep it alive because of some nostalgic draw is as foolish and trying to maintain steam powered transportation. Expand So what you are saying is the idea of making people pay for online content is not working. I’m wondering why people don’t want to pay for Sullivan & Bucky?
Kelly the Dog Posted May 16, 2018 Posted May 16, 2018 On 5/16/2018 at 5:27 PM, Dr.Sack said: So what you are saying is the idea of making people pay for online content is not working. I’m wondering why people don’t want to pay for Sullivan & Bucky? Expand So don't pay for Sullivan and Bucky. Pay for the few dozen other writers there, the cost of one crappy beer per month. Do it for your health!
PromoTheRobot Posted May 16, 2018 Author Posted May 16, 2018 Just so I'm clear, I worry deeply by the decline of news reporting. But in regard on the Buffalo News, I can't abide those two columnists. 1
Saxum Posted May 16, 2018 Posted May 16, 2018 It would be worth it to declare bankruptcy just to get rid of Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Doe. Companies do to get rid of buildings so why not leaches?
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted May 16, 2018 Posted May 16, 2018 On 5/16/2018 at 3:51 PM, Lurker said: The Guild (union) contract locks that in, unfortunately. Buyouts or retirements are the only way to trim the deadwood. I expect to see a few on the sports desk in this latest round of cost cutting... Expand Pergament supposedly retired, then a year later was (and is) back as a part timer, IIRC. Is he still part of the Guild? Thankfully Donn with two Ns retired and stayed there, so Buffalonians don't have to read his lectures on how to be hip, culturally aware, and a double talking s*** disturber. On 5/16/2018 at 5:48 PM, THE SLAMMER said: There goes the Kitty litter mat Expand Try the Toronto Sun. That's all that rag is fit for, litter mats and birdcage liners. 1
Kelly the Dog Posted May 16, 2018 Posted May 16, 2018 Does anyone here not read the Wall Street Journal, NYT, Washington Post, National Review, ESPN, or any website just because they don't like two of the numerous columnists and writers? I'm sure there are examples but it seems like a great number of you single out two guys who write 1% of the content each month and get 1% of the pay as a reason to not subscribe. 2
mileena Posted May 16, 2018 Posted May 16, 2018 (edited) On 5/16/2018 at 2:03 PM, Ifartalot said: With constant Trump bashing by Zremski, Turner & Zyglis. Expand Trump bashing is good. Why would anyone support such a loser??????? #notmypresident Edited May 16, 2018 by mileena 1
Saxum Posted May 16, 2018 Posted May 16, 2018 On 5/16/2018 at 6:01 PM, Kelly the Dog said: Does anyone here not read the Wall Street Journal, NYT, Washington Post, National Review, ESPN, or any website just because they don't like two of the numerous columnists and writers? I'm sure there are examples but it seems like a great number of you single out two guys who write 1% of the content each month and get 1% of the pay as a reason to not subscribe. Expand Read or pay? If there is someone I vomitly disagree with I would ignore on a website but it that person is so bad I would NEVER, EVER pay to read any of it. When you are paying you are paying for everyone unless as some want with cable you can pick and choose. As an example I read blogs on Patreon and I contribute to those whose publications I like. I will not fund Jerry and Sulky for you. This seems to be your goal.
Kelly the Dog Posted May 16, 2018 Posted May 16, 2018 (edited) On 5/16/2018 at 6:33 PM, Limeaid said: Read or pay? If there is someone I vomitly disagree with I would ignore on a website but it that person is so bad I would NEVER, EVER pay to read any of it. When you are paying you are paying for everyone unless as some want with cable you can pick and choose. As an example I read blogs on Patreon and I contribute to those whose publications I like. I will not fund Jerry and Sulky for you. This seems to be your goal. Expand Not my goal at all. You are exactly right when you say you are paying for everyone, that was my goal, to point that out to you. And if Jerry and Sully are 1% of the content that means you pay for the 99% as well as the 1%, but those two are still 1%. Edited May 16, 2018 by Kelly the Dog
Misterbluesky Posted May 16, 2018 Posted May 16, 2018 On 5/16/2018 at 1:07 AM, Captain_Quint said: I can't believe that they still list 16 pages of TV listings for the week. That's insanity in 2018. Expand They were catering to the older generation,I know many seniors who don't have cable or the internet.
BillsFan4 Posted May 16, 2018 Posted May 16, 2018 (edited) On 5/16/2018 at 6:03 PM, mileena said: Trump bashing is good. Why would anyone support such a loser??????? #notmypresident Expand Much of what I've seen from Jerry Zremski is him just reporting the actual details of a story and/or facts. I guess thats considered "bashing" these days? lol Edited May 16, 2018 by BillsFan4 1
JohnC Posted May 16, 2018 Posted May 16, 2018 On 5/16/2018 at 5:41 PM, PromoTheRobot said: Just so I'm clear, I worry deeply by the decline of news reporting. But in regard on the Buffalo News, I can't abide those two columnists. Expand I subscribe to the online NYTimes mostly for the editorial section. There are columnists that I like and read; and there are columnists that I don't like and don't read. Almost all newspapers are struggling with the challenging economics of the business. I don't know why these two columnists should bother you so much that you would not support a paper that in general you support, especially when you have the prerogative of not reading their columns. Sometimes I will read a columnist that in general I don't agree with or even like just for the sake of getting a different opinion and perspective. I can understand why a sector of the readers don't like Sullivan, Bucky or whoever. However, sometimes you broaden your view by listening to someone you don't agree with. If you find that so intolerable to do then just ignore that section of the paper. 1
Kelly the Dog Posted May 16, 2018 Posted May 16, 2018 On 5/16/2018 at 7:02 PM, JohnC said: I subscribe to the online NYTimes mostly for the editorial section. There are columnists that I like and read; and there are columnists that I don't like and don't read. Almost all newspapers are struggling with the challenging economics of the business. I don't know why these two columnists should bother you so much that you would not support a paper that in general you support, especially when you have the prerogative of not reading their columns. Sometimes I will read a columnist that in general I don't agree with or even like just for the sake of getting a different opinion and perspective. I can understand why a sector of the readers don't like Sullivan, Bucky or whoever. However, sometimes you broaden your view by listening to someone you don't agree with. If you find that so intolerable to do then just ignore that section of the paper. Expand It seems so simple and obvious. Well put. One of the most important thing one can do to understand the world better, or anything better, is to read people who don't agree with you, or present the other side to your belief or argument. 2
Fan in San Diego Posted May 16, 2018 Posted May 16, 2018 I subscribe to the online version. I'm doing my part.
May Day 10 Posted May 16, 2018 Posted May 16, 2018 Its a shame. I like a lot of what the Buffalo News has to offer.... but I agree with what someone said on the first page. They have awful, old, inept, nepotistic management who have failed and continue to fail to adapt to modern times.
JohnC Posted May 16, 2018 Posted May 16, 2018 (edited) On 5/16/2018 at 7:06 PM, Kelly the Dog said: It seems so simple and obvious. Well put. One of the most important thing one can do to understand the world better, or anything better, is to read people who don't agree with you, or present the other side to your belief or argument. Expand We have become a world of tribes. It's gotten to the point that if you engage with the other tribe you are committing an act of betrayal to your tribe. What is lost in this self-imposed segregation is that the other tribe isn't so much different from your own tribe. Sure there are differences but the reality is there is more commonality than one would have expected. When all is said and done by limiting oneself you are not expanding oneself. There's just not much growth in restricting one's contacts. Interacting out of your comfort zone won't contaminate you. It's the opposite. Sometimes one's beliefs are strengthened when challenged with opposing beliefs and sometimes one's beliefs are re-examined and altered when exposed to different beliefs. And that is a good thing. Edited May 16, 2018 by JohnC 1
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