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4_kidd_4
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Don’t care if these guys hail Satan in their spare time, just win football games.

Kelly the Dog
Kelly the Dog

Not sure about faith being a prerequisite but he clearly hates Jews. Passed over Rosen and not one Himmelfarb or Finklestein on the entire 90 man roster. 

KD in CA
KD in CA

I don't know what context he uses the word in, but the concept of faith is hardly exclusive to devout Christians, or even religion.   I certainly hope he's only interested in players who hav

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4 minutes ago, SouthNYfan said:

 

Do they have betting in Mexico? Jesus is real big there.

I'm sure he's bet on the Bills a few times.

 

 

In Mexico, 1/3 of the men are Jesus...

 

Matthew, Mark, Luke and John...not so much.

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3rdand12 Hall of Famer

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13 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

I bet there are few if any "devout Christians" on the team (who would play on Sunday?).

 

Although they all seem to thank Jesus after a big game...

 

I mean, like Jesus is really laying his money on the Bills....

ouch

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SlimShady'sSpaceForce

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2 minutes ago, 3rdand12 said:

yep, who said 

  god has no sense of game play ?
keeping it interesting for eons.

 Even the dinosaurs found out  Her sense of humor. 

yep, who said 

  god has no sense of game play ?
keeping it interesting for eons.

 Even the dinosaurs found out  Her sense of humor. 

That was still funny the second time.

 

 ?

 

lol 

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4 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

 

In Mexico, 1/3 of the men are Jesus...

 

Matthew, Mark, Luke and John...not so much.

pushing the envelope again are we ? foot in the door?

Nothing wrong with building Team as you see fit.
If owners can be racist bigots, and some are, I prefer a group hug type of team who kicks azz

2 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said:

Matteo, Marco, Lucas, and Julio though 

well done !

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IDBillzFan Hall of Famer

IDBillzFan

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3 hours ago, Lfod said:

I never seen him pushing any religious agenda onto the team. I've never heard any complaints from players about him. I never seen him in any pictures even wearing a cross. I've never seen any pictures of him with his family or in a church. 

 

If he want to preach religion he can go be a Pastor. He is a professional NFL HC and I think he knows the difference between the two jobs. 

 

That may be because you're completely looking for the wrong things. Wearing a cross doesn't make you a Christian any more than going to church.

 

He is, however and without a doubt, a man of God. I can give you two unequivocal moments to this point.

 

The first was after the Bills got their first regular season win. In the post-game circle up, he starts to address the team, but then stops and apologizes because he wanted to ensure he first thanked God for the win. 

 

The second can be seen in the locker room video right after Dalton throws the TD to put the Bills in the playoffs. You see Pegula starting to approach McDermott, who is on a knee giving thanks to God.

 

With all that said, you can  watch the interviews with many of the draft picks, including Allen and especially with Edmunds (and his brother, drafted by Pittsburgh). It's clear they are centered on their faith in God as a Christian. The Edmunds brothers talk a lot about how their father raised them in such a household.

 

I understand the topic is an easy one for people to mock, but the reality is that a sport like football that is so team-oriented really demands structure, focus, encouragement and accountability among everyone. When your primary commitment is first and foremost to a relationship with God, especially one enhanced by the people you work with and for, you simply are reducing the number times you are going to wake up to find your star player getting charged with domestic assault, or pitting dogs in fights in your back yard, or drugs, or DUIs, or any of the things that can take your focus off your relationship with God.

 

Yes, I know. Men of God are flawed. It's not a guarantee. Just ask King David. 

 

Now look at t he Eagles. There are some great videos out there about how those players hold each other accountable, and hold Bible studies together, and when Pederson and Foles hoisted the trophy after beating NE*, what's the first thing out of both their mouths?

 

In fact, football is the perfect place for Proverbs 27:17: Iron sharpens iron.

 

I dig this about McDermott.

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Reminds me of a very old joke...

 

An amateur boxer talks to a priest before his first bout...

 

"Father, does it help if I do the sign of the cross before I enter the ring?"


The priest's response. "Son, not if you cant fight it don't.. "

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41 minutes ago, SouthNYfan said:

 

I wasn't here to "dump on Christianity".

I was merely pointing out the absurdity of "faith" as a whole, which is the belief in something without actual proof.

It was pointing out the silliness that if you tell a devout Christian that you can shoot laser beams from your eyes, he will want proof, but yet he believes extraordinary things written in a book by an invisible being with no tangible proof whatsoever.

I am willing to bet I have done more research on Christianity, as well as many other religions, than yourself.

Go read some books by Sam Harris and Richard Dawkins.

They're pretty enlightening.

Impressive. All that reading about why faith is bogus, yet you apparently forgot to read the actual book about what makes a Christian. 

 

And yes,  the whole point of your post was to dump on faith. The OP had nothing to do with whether or not you felt faith/belief/religion was a validly held position.  

 

Keep on keepin' on that "enlightened" road you are walking.

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3 minutes ago, LABillzFan said:

Yes, I know. Men of God are flawed. It's not a guarantee. Just ask King David.

 

I totally hear where you are coming from, and in a lot of ways I think it's really great. I'm not even looking to get into the ways that I don't think it does, because I prefer to focus on the amazing things that drive people forward.

 

The one piece though that I think is relevant to this discussion, and I would like some more clarity on is what I quoted above, specifically how it undermines your argument slightly. 

 

I am weary of people when they say that all people are flawed, in fact a lot of people a extremely flawed, but all will be forgiven if you follow a certain set of rules that we agree with, but you better not follow those steps...or else the worst thing you could ever imagine is going to happen.

 

He's looking for good people, solid humans who stand strong together and believe in the power of connection that is larger than any individual person and stretches across time and space. Period. End it there, ya know. That's universal. People make mistakes, but when you promise people that the only way to make up for those mistakes is to submit and have unwavering faith...I think it allows flawed people (aren't we all) to be confused with broken people. It's disingenuous. 

 

I hope he is building a team based on universal truth, but that is not limited to the teachings of Christianity, nor does that exclude those teachings per se. Universal truths are universal regardless off the tool used to dig them out...let's be amazed by their universality and not squabble over and measure our tools (lol, no pun initially intended).

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SouthNYfan

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6 minutes ago, Sig1Hunter said:

Impressive. All that reading about why faith is bogus, yet you apparently forgot to read the actual book about what makes a Christian. 

 

And yes,  the whole point of your post was to dump on faith. The OP had nothing to do with whether or not you felt faith/belief/religion was a validly held position.  

 

Keep on keepin' on that "enlightened" road you are walking.

 

 

Good job reading my post.

I suggested two books for somebody to read.

I actually have read the Quran, the Torah (which is genesis-deuto), the King James version, as well as the catholic canon (which includes many other books prior to the Reformation).

I've read the Pali Canon as well as the Tibetan Book of the Dead.

I've studied Hinduism, Shintoism, Taoism/Daoism, as well as the Greek and Roman mythologies.

Feel free to tell me what books I "forgot to read".

 

Since you've read the "book that makes a Christian" please tell me more about any OTHER religious texts/scriptures you've taken the time to read prior to making your decision on which to follow/not follow.

Or do you just base your opinion of other religions on what the news media tells you?

 

Keep on keepin' on your "enlightened" road that I'm sure was the one your parents set you on and you never questioned it or felt the need to see where it was actually heading though.

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6 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said:

How many of you knew this was going to turn into bashing Christians and belief in God?

 

Oddly enough atheist and agnostics seem to have an amazing ability to speak at length about Jesus but seemingly never get around to Allah or the Hindu 

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