Buffalo Boy Posted May 14, 2018 Posted May 14, 2018 (edited) The Browns are one of the great constants in life!!!! No matter AJM or JA starting at QB for the Bills, they are both better that TT??? Edited May 14, 2018 by Buffalo Boy 2
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted May 14, 2018 Posted May 14, 2018 11 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: I just dont get some people.....negative nancies The browns annually suck....I mean suck BAD We just made the playoffs.....and even when we dont we are in the 8-8 range every year. Can we let the Browns actually win a couple of games a season before we actually put the tail between the legs? FWIW there are some in the media thinking the Browns make a chase for the playoffs. the same guys that say annually the Bills suck
HT02 Posted May 14, 2018 Posted May 14, 2018 4 hours ago, TheTruthHurts said: I don't think it will be close. Bills 3-4 wins and the Browns 8-9. I'd go the inverse of that Browns 4-12 Bills 9-7 1
Cash Posted May 14, 2018 Posted May 14, 2018 I said Browns, but I don't have a lot of confidence in the pick. This is still the same coaching staff that won 1 game in the past 2 seasons, so it's hard to have a ton of faith in them, even with upgraded personnel. I'm definitely prepared for the Bills to take a step back this year, but McDermott's version of JauronBall seems unlikely to bottom out lower than maybe 6 wins or so. I could see the Browns going 8-8 no problem, but wouldn't be stunned if they went 4-12 either.
The Red King Posted May 14, 2018 Posted May 14, 2018 Just now, ScottLaw said: You seem angry. Not at all. Just a little tired of posts from fans angry we traded TT to the Browns and/or unhappy with our off-season moves that state the Bills are going to be one of the worst teams in the league, and Cleveland will somehow be elevated by TT from 0-16 to a playoff caliber team in a single season. Had the OP said something like..."Buffalo will regress, and the changes Cleveland made will elevate them. I see them both having similar records, with Cleveland winning one or two more then Buffalo." I could respect it. Wouldn't agree with it, but would at least respect it. Instead, we get..."I don't think it will be close. Bills 3-4 wins and the Browns 8-9.", which makes it clear this is based on nothing more then personal bias/venom rather then actual football analysis. These types of threads, which are nothing more then thinly veiled "Buffalo will suck because the front office didn't do what I wanted them to do!" are beginning to wear me down. 1
billspro Posted May 14, 2018 Posted May 14, 2018 3 hours ago, Chicken Boo said: Cleveland has the more talented offense. Buffalo has the better defense. This all comes down to AJ and his level of play. It's a push. We have much better coaching. They have better WRs but it is yet to be seen if they have a QB that can take advantage of that. We have Shady who is the only known production on either team. I love how the Bills are being underrated. I trust our coaches, I would be very surprised if we have less than 8 wins.
Lfod Posted May 14, 2018 Posted May 14, 2018 4 hours ago, Charlottebillsfan2 said: The Browns have 4 wins in three seasons, Seriously 4 wins in three years! They shocked the nfl by going Mayfield 1 and passing on Chubb at 4. I'd saying if you gave 31 other teams the number 1 and 4 pick in this years draft they don't end up with Mayfield and Ward. Now perhaps the Browns are smarter then every other team in the NFL or perhaps they are still the Browns. I'll even say that the Bills ended with up the Better QB and better Defensive player in the first round when its all said and done. I do think they are improved but I also think they blew this draft big time. I'd say the Browns are a 4 win team. That fact should be enough to back down some people on how strongly they feel about the Browns being amazing. The Browns being good will be a good topic to revisit during the season when the paper tiger gets shredded. 1
reddogblitz Posted May 14, 2018 Posted May 14, 2018 Come on man. I wonder how many other playoff teams fans are wondering if they'll have a better record than the Clowns? I think you might be stuck in drought thinking mode again. did you by chance predict a 3 or 4 win season last year too? Grass is always greener ... 1
Lfod Posted May 14, 2018 Posted May 14, 2018 4 hours ago, teef said: i'm going to say the bills until the browns show us they can actually be competent. every couple of years we hear about how the browns are finally on the right track, and so far...nothing. i hope it does turn the corner for their fans, but i'm not giving them the benefit of the doubt. it always surprises me that people are willing to give a team like the browns the benefit of the doubt, but not the bills. All you need is draft pick #1 and #4 apparently and people are believers. That's all the Browns have done well. Losing and getting high draft picks. 1
John from Riverside Posted May 14, 2018 Posted May 14, 2018 2 minutes ago, reddogblitz said: Come on man. I wonder how many other playoff teams fans are wondering if they'll have a better record than the Clowns? I think you might be stuck in drought thinking mode again. did you by chance predict a 3 or 4 win season last year too? Grass is always greener ... talk about beat down dog syndrome Come on people....the bills are on the upswing get on the bus
teef Posted May 14, 2018 Posted May 14, 2018 20 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: I love how this board every year predicts 3 or 4 wins and yet every year we double that. Next year, we are going to be "awful" again and yet we never are. On the flip side, this same board always says the Browns will be good and a team on the rise...and then they win 1 game in last 32 games. Hilarious. There wont be a 9 win gap again this year between Browns and Bills, but I still think the Bills will win at least 8 games and could challenge for the playoffs again IF...and this is a key IF...either AJ or Allen (or both) can be solid or better. D will be even better than last year IMO and I think it has the potential to be a top 10 unit this year. I think the offense is not going to drop off much, if at all, like so many of the usual doom and gloomers predict. So with a better D and what I expect to be similar or better production from the offense, this team shouldn't fall off much and could even improve. DISCLAIMER: If both AJ and Allen struggle a lot, then I don't think the D will be good enough to keep this team at or above .500 this year. However, I am also in the camp that the offense shouldn't fall off much and could actually be better under AJ than TT. In the event Allen beats AJ out for the job in preseason or sometime during the season, then I would expect Allen to be able to do the same or better. So, I will still take the Bills in this scenario, but I am also optimistic at QB this year. I am concerned about OL turnover and WR health though, so hopefully we see some positive signs in preseason in those areas. every...single...year. 2
Soda Popinski Posted May 14, 2018 Posted May 14, 2018 Just now, Lfod said: All you need is draft pick #1 and #4 apparently and people are believers. That's all the Browns have done well. Losing and getting high draft picks. Passing on Chubb was a huge flub up IMO. Look what the Chargers are doing with Ingram and Bosa, and now the Broncos with Miller and Chubb, and Cleveland didn't want Chubb and Garrett??? Ludicrous.
teef Posted May 14, 2018 Posted May 14, 2018 27 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: You seem angry. Can't argue with this. But I think Browns will be an actual competitive team this year. Tyrod gives them some stability at the QB position. I'd say Browns win at 6 to 8 and Bills win 5 to 7. It will be close, IMO. Ultimately I think the Browns will have the better record but Hue could !@#$ it up for them. i like tyrod more than most, but i think you're giving him a bit too much credit. 1
Lfod Posted May 14, 2018 Posted May 14, 2018 I'm glad this thread was made. A place for all the Browns hype to be consolidated in one thread, to be dug out of the graveyard mid season. 1
Lfod Posted May 14, 2018 Posted May 14, 2018 (edited) 16 minutes ago, teef said: i like tyrod more than most, but i think you're giving him a bit too much credit. I honestly think Tyrod is the right move for the Browns. I don't think he elevated the Bills W/L record to the point you would have confidence that it will happen for the Browns. It's not like he took the winless Bills to the playoffs. This team was borderline playoff pushing before his arrival. Things actually fell in the teams favor one season and we snuck into the post season. So even though I think he is a good fit for the Browns I would not be so quick to think he is the X factor to increasing a teams win/loss record or he wasn't the X factor in Buffalo. Edited May 14, 2018 by Lfod
Buffalo Boy Posted May 14, 2018 Posted May 14, 2018 3 minutes ago, Lfod said: I'm glad this thread was made. A place for all the Browns hype to be consolidated in one thread, to be dug out of the graveyard mid season. “ Browns hype” = Oxymoron 1
teef Posted May 14, 2018 Posted May 14, 2018 5 minutes ago, Lfod said: I honestly think Tyrod is the right move for the Browns. I don't think he elevated the Bills W/L record to the point you would have confidence that it will happen for the Browns. It's not like he took the winless Bills to the playoffs. This team was borderline playoff pushing before his arrival. Things actually fell in the teams favor one season and we snuck into the post season. completely agree. as mentioned a million times, he is fantastic with not turning the ball over. it sure helps, but i don't think he'll ever have enough to elevate a team beyond that . for a year for the browns it will work. hell...it may not even be a year. 1
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted May 14, 2018 Posted May 14, 2018 18 minutes ago, teef said: i like tyrod more than most, but i think you're giving him a bit too much credit. my guess is 4 to 5 wins w/Tyrod.
teef Posted May 14, 2018 Posted May 14, 2018 7 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: Maybe. I don't think so though. I think he's a solid QB when you have good players around him that fit his style of play. Browns have some real good personnel around Tyrod. I'm interested to see it play out. Assuming Tyrod starts and Mayfield doesn't beat him out. he's certainly better than what they had. tyrod won't hurt them, and i think right now that's all the browns need. Just now, ShadyBillsFan said: my guess is 4 to 5 wins w/Tyrod. i don't know enough about the rest of the team to make a prediction, but if the browns won 5-6 games, it's a step in the right direction. technically, anything is a step in the right direction for them.
Augie Posted May 14, 2018 Posted May 14, 2018 I think we should both be at about 8 wins, but I like our coaching better. I said Bills.
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