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6 hours ago, Limeaid said:

 

He was not at the time, he was a player the Bills spent a lot of work on to just get him to be able to play OT.

A lot of work? If I remember correctly he was a stud SPTeams player (blocked punt at Cinci) and within 2yrs was a starting LT in the NFL that was doing excellent... We should have paid him... 

 

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Johnson over Flutie sucked.

Watching Bruce Smith, then Pat Williams leave stung.

Losing Antoine Winfield was a bummer.

Going "all in" on EJ Manwell was hard to stomach.

 

But the one that keeps me up at night is losing Jonathan Williams. 

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54 minutes ago, Gray Beard said:

Drafting Spiller and hiring Rex were things that got me mad immediately when they happened. 

Other things too numerous to list got me mad as they developed over time. 

 

I actually was excited for the Rex hire as was most of the fan base.  Looking back though - man what a disaster

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Hiring Wrex Wyan.

 

Anyone with a brain knew when it happened that it was a bad decision.

 

Sure, there have been bad draft picks, and some bad coordinators, but you knew that Wrex was going to dismantle the team, and then bumble through at least a couple seasons before being fired. I pretty much tuned the team out.

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Firing Bill Polian.

 

Not re-signing Chuck Knox.

 

Firing Wade Philips.

 

Firing a coach in less than two years even though he had the best record in the previous 17 years.

 

Building the stadium in Orchard Park.

 

Trading up and giving up too much to pick Sammy.

 

To name a few . . . .

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I don't think it was mentioned yet, but I was not happy at all when nice guy Marv held the door open for Nate Clements to leave town.

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Think what made things go downhill was RW hiring Marv as the GM.  Don't think Marv really wanted the job, he left in a couple of years leaving RB  as the next GM.  Don't think he really wanted the job either.  With both of them think the biggest issue was they others make the decisions and just try sand get a consensus.  With RB may have been a case if the choice worked out, he'd take the credit, if it failed, he'd be able to blame others.

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43 minutes ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said:

Think what made things go downhill was RW hiring Marv as the GM.  Don't think Marv really wanted the job, he left in a couple of years leaving RB  as the next GM.  Don't think he really wanted the job either.  With both of them think the biggest issue was they others make the decisions and just try sand get a consensus.  With RB may have been a case if the choice worked out, he'd take the credit, if it failed, he'd be able to blame others.

 

I agree.  Basically it seems like Ralph was never the same after Donahoe.  He took a huge leap of faith by giving the most money and control of any Bills GM to date.  From that point on he was reluctant to hire anyone outside of the organization as GM.  Everyone was an internal candidate, really until 2017.  

1 hour ago, OJABBA said:

Hiring Wrex Wyan.

 

Anyone with a brain knew when it happened that it was a bad decision.

 

Sure, there have been bad draft picks, and some bad coordinators, but you knew that Wrex was going to dismantle the team, and then bumble through at least a couple seasons before being fired. I pretty much tuned the team out.

 

I don’t think I would agree that everyone knew.  Most of the Bills fans, and the city of Buffalo were pumped!  In the end it was a terrible decision but at the time, the move energized the city.

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20 minutes ago, BuffaloRush said:

 

I agree.  Basically it seems like Ralph was never the same after Donahoe.  He took a huge leap of faith by giving the most money and control of any Bills GM to date.  From that point on he was reluctant to hire anyone outside of the organization as GM.  Everyone was an internal candidate, really until 2017.  

 

I don’t think I would agree that everyone knew.  Most of the Bills fans, and the city of Buffalo were pumped!  In the end it was a terrible decision but at the time, the move energized the city.

 

I said "Anyone with a brain"...

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1 hour ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said:

Think what made things go downhill was RW hiring Marv as the GM.  Don't think Marv really wanted the job, he left in a couple of years leaving RB  as the next GM.  Don't think he really wanted the job either.  With both of them think the biggest issue was they others make the decisions and just try sand get a consensus.  With RB may have been a case if the choice worked out, he'd take the credit, if it failed, he'd be able to blame others.

 

Marv was brought in for one reason - to repair the damage Donahoe did with fandom including having some of the bag heads thrown out.  Donahoe's actions ruined Ralph's faith ([NOTE: You can have faith not connected to religion]) in "professionals".

 

He was NOT brought in to be a talent scout and did not determine who we drafted, contracts paid, etc.


He DID bring attention to some players including an ex-COE running back he heard from his contracts.

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On it's face trading up for a QB with that many question marks is pretty infuriating.

 

That being said, we fall in love with a player, we end up getting another, then we fall in line.  I'm hoping Allen does well and will support him with all my might.  He's my guy.

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When I read about Russ Brandon telling the pegulas to not let rex leave the building..heres this loudmouth coach who hadn't made the playoffs in nearly half a decade..and actually lost badly to Marrone and Kyle Orton..vaunted defence that couldn't even contain Watkins ..then we hire him as a saviour when his defence hadnt been ranked high in years 

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Signing a peerless price to his second stint in buffalo to an above average #2 contract when no one else in the league would even have him in for a workout 

 

dumping lynch for spiller

 

maybin pick

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10 hours ago, BuffaloRush said:

 

I agree.  Basically it seems like Ralph was never the same after Donahoe.  He took a huge leap of faith by giving the most money and control of any Bills GM to date.  From that point on he was reluctant to hire anyone outside of the organization as GM.  Everyone was an internal candidate, really until 2017.  

 

I don’t think I would agree that everyone knew.  Most of the Bills fans, and the city of Buffalo were pumped!  In the end it was a terrible decision but at the time, the move energized the city.

 

I saw a lot of Bills fans who knew Rex was a bad HC when he was with the Jets, then coped with the Bills hiring him by temporarily forgetting.  It didn't take long for Rex to remind them that they had been right in the first place.

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The Dick Jauron hire.

 

I live in the Chicago area, and had just seen how awful he was for years. Based on his tenure with the Bears, he shouldn't have even been a consideration at Head Coach. I knew that was destined to be a dumpster fire, & could only watch it happen...

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