How can we as a nation allow this?

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

https://www.dailywire.com/news/30545/former-obama-officials-nyt-european-countries-ben-shapiro

 

 

[njbuff]

Obama and his constituents hate America and Americans.

 

Who would have thought?

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

That’s pretty much overt sedition is it not?

[DC Tom]

2 minutes ago, joesixpack said:

That’s pretty much overt sedition is it not?

 

No, it's an op-ed.  People are allowed to have opinions, even stupid ones, even published in the Times.

 

If the author went to Paris and had a conference with Marcon, in which he advised this in some faux-official capacity, that would be a different story.  But still not sedition.

[Koko78]

Obama's people are fighting Nazis. Nothing is forbidden when fighting Nazis.

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

Just now, DC Tom said:

 

No, it's an op-ed.  People are allowed to have opinions, even stupid ones, even published in the Times.

 

If the author went to Paris and had a conference with Marcon, in which he advised this in some faux-official capacity, that would be a different story.  But still not sedition.

 

What is it then when John Kerry has contact with Iranian officials in contradiction to official us policy?

[DC Tom]

Just now, joesixpack said:

 

What is it then when John Kerry has contact with Iranian officials in contradiction to official us policy?

 

A violation of the Logan act.

 

Sedition is conspiring to overthrow the US government.  That is not even close to being the same as "publishing a whiny adolescent rant in the NYT's op-ed page," or "running around Europe telling world leaders to ignore the president because he's a doody-head."  

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

4 minutes ago, DC Tom said:

 

A violation of the Logan act.

 

Sedition is conspiring to overthrow the US government.  That is not even close to being the same as "publishing a whiny adolescent rant in the NYT's op-ed page," or "running around Europe telling world leaders to ignore the president because he's a doody-head."  

 

Fair enough, looks like I need to brush up on the definitions of treason and sedition 

[US Egg]

Trump's exposed and righted fallacies of the previous administration, who are grasping at anything to undermine him.

 

.....even if it means undermining the United States.

 

[DC Tom]

Just now, joesixpack said:

 

Fair enough, looks like I need to brush up on the definitions of treason and sedition 

 

Treason is basically cooperating with an enemy of the country.

 

Sedition...most people would assume that working against the President's policies, or even attempting to have him impeached and driven out of office, is sedition.  It's not, because this:

 

is not the government.  This is:

 

[/dev/null]

8 minutes ago, DC Tom said:

 

Treason is basically cooperating with an enemy of the country.

 

Sedition...most people would assume that working against the President's policies, or even attempting to have him impeached and driven out of office, is sedition.  It's not, because this:

 

is not the government.  This is:

 

 

[Doc Brown]

Allow an opinion piece where they're identified as former Obama aides or not charge Kerry with violating the Logan Act?

[Teddy KGB]

21 hours ago, Koko78 said:

Obama's people are fighting Nazis. Nothing is forbidden when fighting Nazis.

 

Those 7 nazi’s in Charlottesville are like a really really big deal.   

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

On 5/11/2018 at 9:53 PM, Doc Brown said:

Allow an opinion piece where they're identified as former Obama aides or not charge Kerry with violating the Logan Act?

 

Both. When you have people undermining the president AND his authority, especially in foreign affairs, it's detrimental to ALL of us.