That's No Moon Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 No Chiavetta's? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 13 hours ago, Gugny said: Cute. But Buffalo is Western NY .... not Upstate NY. Man... You have issues with geography. Everything north of NYC... MAYBE Push it to BEYOND Catskills IS "UpState." Just like everything outside Chicagoland is "Downstate." You really do see definitive lines, and draw them bold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 Just now, ExiledInIllinois said: Man... You have issues with geography. Everything north of NYC... MAYBE Push it to BEYOND Catskills IS "UpState." Just like everything outside Chicagoland is "Downstate." You really do see definitive lines, and draw them bold. The PA border is less than 2 hours from Western NY. That's not upstate. Catskills are BARELY upstate, if at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 1 minute ago, Gugny said: The PA border is less than 2 hours from Western NY. That's not upstate. Catskills are BARELY upstate, if at all. "Up" = everything North/Up of NYC. UpState is in reference to NYC. What latitude is BFLo, Syracuse, Albany. Pretty damn close. No? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Gugny Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 2 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said: "Up" = everything North/Up of NYC. UpState is in reference to NYC. What latitude is BFLo, Syracuse, Albany. Pretty damn close. No? Only the northeast part of NY State is upstate. I live north of any part of the Finger Lakes region. I live in upstate NY. If you look at the map Gray Beard posted, only the top half of the Capital Region and Mohawk Valley Region - and all of the North Country, are Upstate NY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 5 minutes ago, Gugny said: Only the northeast part of NY State is upstate. I live north of any part of the Finger Lakes region. I live in upstate NY. If you look at the map Gray Beard posted, only the top half of the Capital Region and Mohawk Valley Region - and all of the North Country, are Upstate NY. Who says? http://www.upstatefarms.com "Upstate Dairy" is based out of: http://www.upstatefarms.com/farms You're off your rocker... Hey Clyde, Uncle Buggs giving you geography lessons again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 Just now, ExiledInIllinois said: Who says? http://www.upstatefarms.com "Upstate Dairy" is based out of: http://www.upstatefarms.com/farms You're off your rocker... Hey Clyde, Uncle Buggs giving you geography lessons again? They are free to identify however they choose. It's not against the law for them to be as wrong as they are. No biggie. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 9 minutes ago, Gugny said: They are free to identify however they choose. It's not against the law for them to be as wrong as they are. No biggie. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Upstate_New_York "Upstate New York is the portion of the American state of New York lying north of the New York metropolitan area. The region includes most of the state of New York, excluding New York City and Long Island, though the precise boundary is debated.[1][2] Upstate New York includes the major cities of Buffalo, Rochester, Albany, and Syracuse.[2][3]" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 25 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Upstate_New_York "Upstate New York is the portion of the American state of New York lying north of the New York metropolitan area. The region includes most of the state of New York, excluding New York City and Long Island, though the precise boundary is debated.[1][2] Upstate New York includes the major cities of Buffalo, Rochester, Albany, and Syracuse.[2][3]" Cute. Wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 Those things called "potato chips", I think I've seen them somewhere outside western new york Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stony Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 Michigan's are amazing. Used to eat a lot of them during college. In WNY, we call them chili dogs and/or Texas hots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Gugny said: Cute. Wrong. Cite your sources. I am citing mine: https://mobile.nytimes.com/2014/02/16/nyregion/what-area-is-considered-upstate-new-york.html And if you read, the source there is Albany the Capital. "Albany’s working definition of upstate New York is based on what lies outside the Metropolitan Transportation Authority’s commuter rail area. Besides New York City and Long Island, it excludes Westchester, Rockland, Orange, Putnam and Dutchess Counties." http://www.recordonline.com/article/20140113/NEWS/401130327 http://mumford.albany.edu/mumford/UpstateProject/geography.html Upstate versus Downstate If asked, residents of New York State would no doubt differ on exactly where downstate ends and upstate begins. It definitely does not include New York City or Long Island. But while most people know that Westchester County is not part of New York City, they would still associate it more with “the city” than with upstate New York. For purposes of this report, distinguishing between upstate and downstate requires a precise definition. Using counties as the building blocks, we have chosen to include all but 10 of the 62 counties in the state as upstate New York (see Map 1, below). Upstate is the area north of New York City and its immediate suburban neighbors. This definition eliminates New York City and its closest Northern suburban counties (Westchester, Rockland and Putnam), plus the two counties on Long Island, Nassau and Suffolk. Westchester shares a border with the Bronx, and the other two counties border Westchester. Admittedly, one could make a case for including Putnam in upstate but it is not part of any MSA or Micropolitan area other than the one that includes New York City. Of the 62 counties in the state, 52 are in upstate according to this definition. Edited May 11, 2018 by ExiledInIllinois Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 (edited) 25 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said: Cite your sources. I am citing mine: https://mobile.nytimes.com/2014/02/16/nyregion/what-area-is-considered-upstate-new-york.html And if you read, the source there is Albany the Capital. "Albany’s working definition of upstate New York is based on what lies outside the Metropolitan Transportation Authority’s commuter rail area. Besides New York City and Long Island, it excludes Westchester, Rockland, Orange, Putnam and Dutchess Counties." http://www.recordonline.com/article/20140113/NEWS/401130327 http://mumford.albany.edu/mumford/UpstateProject/geography.html Upstate versus Downstate If asked, residents of New York State would no doubt differ on exactly where downstate ends and upstate begins. It definitely does not include New York City or Long Island. But while most people know that Westchester County is not part of New York City, they would still associate it more with “the city” than with upstate New York. For purposes of this report, distinguishing between upstate and downstate requires a precise definition. Using counties as the building blocks, we have chosen to include all but 10 of the 62 counties in the state as upstate New York (see Map 1, below). Upstate is the area north of New York City and its immediate suburban neighbors. This definition eliminates New York City and its closest Northern suburban counties (Westchester, Rockland and Putnam), plus the two counties on Long Island, Nassau and Suffolk. Westchester shares a border with the Bronx, and the other two counties border Westchester. Admittedly, one could make a case for including Putnam in upstate but it is not part of any MSA or Micropolitan area other than the one that includes New York City. Of the 62 counties in the state, 52 are in upstate according to this definition. My sources are logic and that I live in upstate NY. The school of thought that says any region of NY that doesn't say, "fugettaboutit," in their every day interactions = "upstate" is wrong and it's stupid. As you move west across the state, upstate disappears because it's no longer significantly north of the southern border. That, my friend, makes sense. Edited May 11, 2018 by Gugny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 Just now, Gugny said: My sources are logic and that I live in upstate NY. The school of thought that says any region of NY that doesn't say, "fugettaboutit," in their every day interactions is wrong and it's stupid. As you move west across the state, upstate disappears because it's no longer significantly north of the southern border. That, my friend, makes sense. Wow. Okay. No it doesn't make sense. There is New York, New York and the rest of New York State. Everything is "up" from New York, New York. Hence, "Upstate." Reference is The City. Believe what you want though. You gotta be trolling me? Nobody is this dumb (what you posted). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 4 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said: Wow. Okay. No it doesn't make sense. There is New York, New York and the rest of New York State. Everything is "up" from New York, New York. Hence, "Upstate." Reference is The City. Believe what you want though. You gotta be trolling me? Nobody is this dumb (what you posted). So you're telling me that someone in the western region of NY who lives on the PA border lives upsate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 1 minute ago, Gugny said: So you're telling me that someone in the western region of NY who lives on the PA border lives upsate? Yes. Because they are "up" from The City. There ain't no moving targets. 52/62 NYS counties are "upstate." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 1 minute ago, ExiledInIllinois said: Yes. Because they are "up" from The City. There ain't no moving targets. 52/62 NYS counties are "upstate." Oh, good. So NY is broken up between NYC and Upstate. There is no central, eastern or western NY. It's just the city, and the rest. Goddamn, I wish it didn't take someone from Illinois to tell me this. I feel stupid now. Thanks!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Your Brown Eye Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 Garbage Plate God's gift to the culinary world Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 1 minute ago, Gugny said: Oh, good. So NY is broken up between NYC and Upstate. There is no central, eastern or western NY. It's just the city, and the rest. Goddamn, I wish it didn't take someone from Illinois to tell me this. I feel stupid now. Thanks!! Yes. This is the 1932 Presidential Election in NYS. Height of Great Depression: NYS has always been broken up between NYC & Upstate NY. Anyway... I was born in Upstate New York. Sister's Hospital, Buffalo, New York... 1968. I still don't consider myself from Illinois. My US passport says, Born: New York. Oh... It went totally Blue that year for Roosevelt. There is CNY, WNY, ENY... They are sub-regions of Upstate New York. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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