Edmunds & Milano = Our Kuechly & Davis

[H2o]

Milano really impressed me last year in our defense. He was all over the field making plays. As a rookie he had taken over a starting spot by December. He was solid in coverage and played the run well also. I expect another step forward this year as he becomes more acclimated with his responsibility within our defense and gets his run with the 1st team from the start. He is our play making OLB on defense who seems to be in on a lot of key stops or TO's ala Davis in Carolina. 

 

Preston Brown departs via FA and in steps the #16 overall pick Tremaine Edmunds. The athleticism is undeniable and it dwarfs Brown in every way. Edmunds is going to be the sideline to sideline QB of this defense for years to come. His coverage ability, closing burst, and instincts at barely 20 years old is really amazing if you have watched him play. McDermott will have this young man watching film of Luke, studying his place, his reads, and his responsibilities from now until September. 

 

I truly believe McDermott now feels he has the two guys who will anchor his LB unit. Most of his and today's defenses operate with only two LB's on the field anyway. These two guys are our Kuechly and Davis.  

[ChevyVanMiller]

27 minutes ago, H2o said:

Milano really impressed me last year in our defense. He was all over the field making plays. As a rookie he had taken over a starting spot by December. He was solid in coverage and played the run well also. I expect another step forward this year as he becomes more acclimated with his responsibility within our defense and gets his run with the 1st team from the start. He is our play making OLB on defense who seems to be in on a lot of key stops or TO's ala Davis in Carolina. 

 

Preston Brown departs via FA and in steps the #16 overall pick Tremaine Edmunds. The athleticism is undeniable and it dwarfs Brown in every way. Edmunds is going to be the sideline to sideline QB of this defense for years to come. His coverage ability, closing burst, and instincts at barely 20 years old is really amazing if you have watched him play. McDermott will have this young man watching film of Luke, studying his place, his reads, and his responsibilities from now until September. 

 

I truly believe McDermott now feels he has the two guys who will anchor his LB unit. Most of his and today's defenses operate with only two LB's on the field anyway. These two guys are our Kuechly and Davis.  

Agree with most of what you say, just a caution to remember that both of these guys are really young and probably won't be all-pros just yet.

[dabills21]

25 minutes ago, H2o said:

Milano really impressed me last year in our defense. He was all over the field making plays. As a rookie he had taken over a starting spot by December. He was solid in coverage and played the run well also. I expect another step forward this year as he becomes more acclimated with his responsibility within our defense and gets his run with the 1st team from the start. He is our play making OLB on defense who seems to be in on a lot of key stops or TO's ala Davis in Carolina. 

 

Preston Brown departs via FA and in steps the #16 overall pick Tremaine Edmunds. The athleticism is undeniable and it dwarfs Brown in every way. Edmunds is going to be the sideline to sideline QB of this defense for years to come. His coverage ability, closing burst, and instincts at barely 20 years old is really amazing if you have watched him play. McDermott will have this young man watching film of Luke, studying his place, his reads, and his responsibilities from now until September. 

 

I truly believe McDermott now feels he has the two guys who will anchor his LB unit. Most of his and today's defenses operate with only two LB's on the field anyway. These two guys are our Kuechly and Davis.  

Love your enthusiasm, but that's a pretty extreme comparison. Kuechly is the best MLB in the NFL since Urlacher.

 

Now I think Edmunds will play the Kuechly type role, and be very good, if that's what you're trying to say.

 

The Milano/Davis comparison is pretty far off base.  Davis is a Sam backer, Milano is a Will who is best in nickle situations.  Davis is much more physical and one of the best 4-3 Sam backers in a while

[The Now Moment]

I think they have a lot of potential.  It will be interesting to see how Milano and Edmunds play behind the beefed up defensive front.  

[Drunken Pygmy Goat]

Milano always seemed to be around the ball last year. The instincts are definitely there. I think his progression will be rapid. Not the most atheletic guy, but his ability to react quickly can make up for some of that.

 

With Edmunds, you have a guy that's bigger and longer than Kuechly, and having a faster 40 time at the combine. His wing span is ridiculous. Those kind of measurables are perfect for a MLB in a short zone defense, and if his insticts really show at the next level...watch out. I will say that I'm a bit worried that he'll get gobbled up defending the run. He could use some extra time hitting the weights, IMO.

Edited May 5, 2018 by Drunken Pygmy Goat

[billsbackto81]

5 minutes ago, dabills21 said:

Love your enthusiasm, but that's a pretty extreme comparison. Kuechly is the best MLB in the NFL since Urlacher.

 

Now I think Edmunds will play the Kuechly type role, and be very good, if that's what you're trying to say.

 

The Milano/Davis comparison is pretty far off base.  Davis is a Sam backer, Milano is a Will who is best in nickle situations.  Davis is much more physical and one of the best 4-3 Sam backers in a while

Spot on opinion. Edmunds has Pro Bowl potential if he can start to diagnose better and not over pursue while Milano still has plenty to work on though his knack for coverage is not lacking.

[H2o]

2 minutes ago, dabills21 said:

Love your enthusiasm, but that's a pretty extreme comparison. Kuechly is the best MLB in the NFL since Urlacher.

 

Now I think Edmunds will play the Kuechly type role, and be very good, if that's what you're trying to say.

 

The Milano/Davis comparison is pretty far off base.  Davis is a Sam backer, Milano is a Will who is best in nickle situations.  Davis is much more physical and one of the best 4-3 Sam backers in a while

Yes, that is what I am saying about Edmunds. He will play that role, play it well from the start, and be the QB of the defense. Will he be a perennial All-Pro? I hope so, but I have no doubt he will be at least upper tier of MLB's. 

 

I think Milano played the Will because that is what was asked of him. He excelled imo for a rookie. I also expect him to move more to that TD Sam spot this year. Alexander is not staying in that spot. Milano is also going to benefit from a full offseason NFL strength and conditioning program. I expect big things. 

[Doc]

12 minutes ago, dabills21 said:

Love your enthusiasm, but that's a pretty extreme comparison. Kuechly is the best MLB in the NFL since Urlacher.

 

Now I think Edmunds will play the Kuechly type role, and be very good, if that's what you're trying to say.

 

The Milano/Davis comparison is pretty far off base.  Davis is a Sam backer, Milano is a Will who is best in nickle situations.  Davis is much more physical and one of the best 4-3 Sam backers in a while

 

 Um, Thomas Davis plays Will linebacker for the Panthers.  

[Shaw66]

8 minutes ago, dabills21 said:

Love your enthusiasm, but that's a pretty extreme comparison. Kuechly is the best MLB in the NFL since Urlacher.

 

Now I think Edmunds will play the Kuechly type role, and be very good, if that's what you're trying to say.

 

The Milano/Davis comparison is pretty far off base.  Davis is a Sam backer, Milano is a Will who is best in nickle situations.  Davis is much more physical and one of the best 4-3 Sam backers in a while

That's my reaction.  Milano is one of those guys (I'm guessing) who will show flashes but who will have weaknesses that get exploited, weaknesses they can't overcome.   It's what I've been saying about Brown and Edmunds.   Brown made the most of his talents, but he's hit a ceiling because of his lack of speed.   Milano has weaknesses that will limit what he can do. 

 

The interesting thing about McDermott is that his approach WILL make stars of an occasional guy, despite the guy's limitations.   Those guys play better than their talent projects, but they only can do in the environment the coach built.   Like all the players who looked like stars playing for Belichick, and were only okay or worse elsewhere.  

 

If McDermott makes Milano into a stud outside linebacker tor the next ten years, it will mean the Bills have one of the great head coaches in the league.  

[Doc Brown]

7 minutes ago, Shaw66 said:

That's my reaction.  Milano is one of those guys (I'm guessing) who will show flashes but who will have weaknesses that get exploited, weaknesses they can't overcome.   It's what I've been saying about Brown and Edmunds.   Brown made the most of his talents, but he's hit a ceiling because of his lack of speed.   Milano has weaknesses that will limit what he can do. 

 

The interesting thing about McDermott is that his approach WILL make stars of an occasional guy, despite the guy's limitations.   Those guys play better than their talent projects, but they only can do in the environment the coach built.   Like all the players who looked like stars playing for Belichick, and were only okay or worse elsewhere.  

 

If McDermott makes Milano into a stud outside linebacker tor the next ten years, it will mean the Bills have one of the great head coaches in the league.  

This is what's impressed me most about Beane/McDermott since they got here.  The ability to draft and find players that fit their scheme while maximizing their strengths and masking their weaknesses.  I'll give more credit to McDermott as they traded back for T White since Beane wasn't here yet.  I'm still ticked that EJ Gaines got as small of a contract as he did.  If the Bills can hit on most of their defensive draft picks and make value free agents deals/trades, this regime could even withstand a 1st round rookie QB bust.

[K-9]

Love their potential, but let’s not get too far ahead of our skis here. Keuchly, especially, was a refined player when he came in for instance.

[Jpsredemption]

Slow down a bit.

[Patrick Duffy]

Don't know if I'd compare them to those guys, but love me some Milano and thought he did a great job last season and I believe he will earn the starting job this year. Excited to see what we get out of Edmunds. We should end up having a very strong LB core when it's all said and done. Along with the secondary and front improvements, this defense should be pretty darn stout.

[Exxdee]

I didn't like Edmunds in coverage, that Clemson game for example. But tough to find great coverage LBs. I still think we need a cover LB, preferably MLB like Keuchly. But compared to Preston Brown last year, he's a good upgrade. Love Milano's upside too

[yungmack]

1 hour ago, H2o said:

Milano really impressed me last year in our defense. He was all over the field making plays. As a rookie he had taken over a starting spot by December. He was solid in coverage and played the run well also. I expect another step forward this year as he becomes more acclimated with his responsibility within our defense and gets his run with the 1st team from the start. He is our play making OLB on defense who seems to be in on a lot of key stops or TO's ala Davis in Carolina. 

 

Preston Brown departs via FA and in steps the #16 overall pick Tremaine Edmunds. The athleticism is undeniable and it dwarfs Brown in every way. Edmunds is going to be the sideline to sideline QB of this defense for years to come. His coverage ability, closing burst, and instincts at barely 20 years old is really amazing if you have watched him play. McDermott will have this young man watching film of Luke, studying his place, his reads, and his responsibilities from now until September. 

 

I truly believe McDermott now feels he has the two guys who will anchor his LB unit. Most of his and today's defenses operate with only two LB's on the field anyway. These two guys are our Kuechly and Davis.  

I appreciate your enthusiasm though you might be overstating Milano's talent and understating the youth and inexperience of Edmunds. Still, their Bills now, so let's hope you get your wish. We'll all be rooting for them I'm sure.

[John from Riverside]

3 hours ago, Shaw66 said:

That's my reaction.  Milano is one of those guys (I'm guessing) who will show flashes but who will have weaknesses that get exploited, weaknesses they can't overcome.   It's what I've been saying about Brown and Edmunds.   Brown made the most of his talents, but he's hit a ceiling because of his lack of speed.   Milano has weaknesses that will limit what he can do. 

 

The interesting thing about McDermott is that his approach WILL make stars of an occasional guy, despite the guy's limitations.   Those guys play better than their talent projects, but they only can do in the environment the coach built.   Like all the players who looked like stars playing for Belichick, and were only okay or worse elsewhere.  

 

If McDermott makes Milano into a stud outside linebacker tor the next ten years, it will mean the Bills have one of the great head coaches in the league.  

I’m curious what you think Milano’s weaknesses are?

 

he was a first year player last year that was everywhere when he got on the field and is probably gonna put on another 10 to 15 pounds as he goes

 

Instincts mean so much to the position

 

 

 

 

 

3 hours ago, Exxdee said:

I didn't like Edmunds in coverage, that Clemson game for example. But tough to find great coverage LBs. I still think we need a cover LB, preferably MLB like Keuchly. But compared to Preston Brown last year, he's a good upgrade. Love Milano's upside too

Edmunds has been overall excellent in coverage you cannot base off one game

[Green Lightning]

3 hours ago, Buffalo30 said:

I think they have a lot of potential.  It will be interesting to see how Milano and Edmunds play behind the beefed up defensive front.  

Agree. Milano's a bit light and will benefit greatly if they can keep the big guys off him.

[The Now Moment]

6 minutes ago, Green Lightning said:

Agree. Milano's a bit light and will benefit greatly if they can keep the big guys off him.

Speedy linebackers with open tackling lanes...that's McDermott's dream.

[Green Lightning]

3 minutes ago, Buffalo30 said:

Speedy linebackers with open tackling lanes...that's McDermott's dream.

My dream too! That's why I really love why the FO did up front.

1 minute ago, Green Lightning said:

My dream too! That's why I really love what the FO did up front.

Sorry for the repeat!

Edited May 5, 2018 by Green Lightning

[wppete]

Really hope those guys Gel and become dominate together.