NewEra Posted May 6, 2018 Author Posted May 6, 2018 3 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: To sum it all up. “That’s my QB and I understand why he’s my QB and why Rosen isn’t” is more like it. 1
HappyDays Posted May 6, 2018 Posted May 6, 2018 21 hours ago, Green Lightning said: If we drafted Wilson seventh overall I'd have the same doubts so I'm having right now about Allen. Third-round he's a steal, 7th overall at that time don't know You realize this is a knock against you, right?
Stank_Nasty Posted May 6, 2018 Posted May 6, 2018 1 hour ago, HappyDays said: You realize this is a knock against you, right? Not only that. But the comparison is just stupid. The knock on Wilson was size. If he had been 4 inches taller he would have been universally regarded as a top ten guy. What made him slip to the 3rd isn’t even close to the same issues as to why Allen had the potential to slip.
Green Lightning Posted May 6, 2018 Posted May 6, 2018 5 hours ago, NewEra said: He hasn’t shown you a thing? You clearly mean he hasn’t shown you that he can complete passes at a 60% clip while running for his life with bum WRs. He’s shown that he has a generational arm, great mobility and can move the chains with his legs, the ability to throw on the run and make throws that no other QB can make. If he hasn’t shown you that, then your just hating. He needs work. No doubt about it. Darnold needs work. Mayfield needs work. Rosen needs mobility and an unscrambled brain. now it’s up to our brain trust to develop him. By saying he hasn’t shown you anything is being a Debbie downer. He’s shown a lot. he’s also shown a lot of bad. No question. Problem is, you only focus on the bad. Your choice. Have fun Exactly how I felt. But I didn’t sit there silent. So glad you're delighted with the pick. Many of us are not. Our judgments are as valid as yours. Now let's just hope he works out. That's my hope. Until then, I'm not going to do a 180 and dismiss what I've seen from him in the past. If that's negative to you, so be it. Go bills. 2 hours ago, HappyDays said: You realize this is a knock against you, right? No more than it is for the Bills and 30 other teams that passed on him for almost 3 rounds. For every Wilson there's 10 flops. All I'm saying is when you pick number 7, I'd rather pick a guy who's got a track record that shows he can do it at the next level. We're going to see.
HappyDays Posted May 6, 2018 Posted May 6, 2018 8 minutes ago, Green Lightning said: I'd rather pick a guy who's got a track record that shows he can do it at the next level This describes exactly 0 QBs in draft history. 1
Klaista2k Posted May 6, 2018 Posted May 6, 2018 (edited) Wow just watched the 2016 game vs Bosie State and Allen played much better. After watching this game I'm more optimistic about the pick. Edited May 6, 2018 by Klaista2k
Green Lightning Posted May 6, 2018 Posted May 6, 2018 11 minutes ago, HappyDays said: This describes exactly 0 QBs in draft history. Gosh you're right, there's no way of ranking any quarterback coming out of college. Nobody like Peyton Manning or Andrew Luck. Throw a dart at the board. All college QBs have flaws. But I'll take a guy who has exceptional completion rate, I demonstrated ability as a pocket passer, reading defenses, and overall success at a major college program. That would be how I would do it, you wouldn't make the judgement differently apparently. That's fine.
Green Lightning Posted May 6, 2018 Posted May 6, 2018 7 hours ago, Sammy Watkins' Rib said: Dang. 91% approval rating?? Nice. You probably can't even get that on Patsfans.com message board for Tom Brady. I wasn't a big fan leading up to the draft or even in the moment of the draft. But glad to see we have pretty much all come around to him and will support him. Of course we support him he's a Bill. It doesn't it mean we still have to like the pick or make believe that are observations pre_draft are not valid, or have confidence it's going to work out. But we support him and hope he's the real deal.
BarleyNY Posted May 6, 2018 Posted May 6, 2018 Didn’t want the Bills to pick him, but he’s our QB so I’m rooting for him. I’m not sure who wouldn’t be rooting for him whether or not they liked the pick.
NewEra Posted May 6, 2018 Author Posted May 6, 2018 54 minutes ago, BarleyNY said: Didn’t want the Bills to pick him, but he’s our QB so I’m rooting for him. I’m not sure who wouldn’t be rooting for him whether or not they liked the pick. 40 people (and counting) are still pissed.
stinky finger Posted May 6, 2018 Posted May 6, 2018 1 hour ago, Green Lightning said: Gosh you're right, there's no way of ranking any quarterback coming out of college. Nobody like Peyton Manning or Andrew Luck. Throw a dart at the board. All college QBs have flaws. But I'll take a guy who has exceptional completion rate, I demonstrated ability as a pocket passer, reading defenses, and overall success at a major college program. That would be how I would do it, you wouldn't make the judgement differently apparently. That's fine. Translation: You're not projecting. You do realize those "exceptional" completion rates aren't automatically transferable, right?
Sky Diver Posted May 6, 2018 Posted May 6, 2018 48 minutes ago, NewEra said: 40 people (and counting) are still pissed. I think it’s way more than that.
NewEra Posted May 7, 2018 Author Posted May 7, 2018 48 minutes ago, Sky Diver said: I think it’s way more than that. Poll related, sorry
Sky Diver Posted May 7, 2018 Posted May 7, 2018 3 minutes ago, NewEra said: Poll related, sorry I think the pro-Rosen, anti-Allen contingent is underrepresented in the poll.
Green Lightning Posted May 7, 2018 Posted May 7, 2018 1 hour ago, inaugural balls said: Translation: You're not projecting. You do realize those "exceptional" completion rates aren't automatically transferable, right? True, but they are a better indicator of sucess than a crappy college career completion rate.
GOATMoorman Posted May 7, 2018 Posted May 7, 2018 Am I a fan? Of course, I'll support him as long as he plays for my team. Am I still unhappy with the pick and wish we ended up with Rosen? You bet. Prove me wrong Josh.
stinky finger Posted May 7, 2018 Posted May 7, 2018 1 hour ago, Sky Diver said: I think the pro-Rosen, anti-Allen contingent is underrepresented in the poll. I believe you're right.
Wayne Arnold Posted May 7, 2018 Posted May 7, 2018 1 hour ago, Green Lightning said: True, but they are a better indicator of sucess than a crappy college career completion rate. Nope.
SJDK Posted May 7, 2018 Posted May 7, 2018 On 5/5/2018 at 7:42 AM, klos63 said: Look at Jim Kelly's stats in Miami Yup, it can be turned around. Kelly 56% (completion%) in college. 63% as a pro
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