26CornerBlitz Posted May 2, 2018 Posted May 2, 2018 Here's a plan for the Bills to get the most out of Josh Allen, and it involves Cam Newton When creating a scheme for Allen, the Bills should look to a quarterback head coach Sean McDermott knows well by Chris Trapasso By drafting Josh Allen, the Bills took the biggest risk of all the teams that selected a quarterback in the first round of the 2018 NFL Draft. Despite being the most physically-imposing quarterback to enter the NFL in some time, the Wyoming product joins the league with three major flaws to his game. That combination led to Allen being one of the most polarizing signal-caller prospects of the last decade, but he was still a top-10 pick. The moment his name was announced by Roger Goodell, I was confused as to why the Bills decided to take a risk on such a dicey project at quarterback in this draft of all drafts, and I'm skeptical it will work out for him in Buffalo. My concerns with Allen are as follows: Lack of consistent accuracy Habitually leaving the pocket at the first sign of pressure Tendency to "overextend" plays while improvising, frequently throwing off-balance into precarious situations 1
No Cease Fires Posted May 2, 2018 Posted May 2, 2018 Was just about to post this. Great article, and I too hope the Bills embrace the boom-or-bust quality of Allen's game. 1
Zac Posted May 2, 2018 Posted May 2, 2018 I'd be surprised if Allen is never a 60%+ completion % guy, but that's just me. I understand the principal of the article though. 1
Dr. Who Posted May 2, 2018 Posted May 2, 2018 I bet Trapasso still has a pic of Mason Rudolph pinned up somewheres. 2 1
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted May 2, 2018 Posted May 2, 2018 2 minutes ago, Dr. Who said: I bet Trapasso still has a pic of Mason Rudolph pinned up somewheres. I have very little respect for his ability to anaylze QBs after following him this spring prior to the draft. Hell for that matter all his ratings were weird. When I compared his position ratings to a consensus of the other experts he was always the outlier. 1
No Cease Fires Posted May 2, 2018 Posted May 2, 2018 Regardless of how you feel about his opinions, it's an interesting piece on how best to use Allen. The first of its kind I've seen.
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted May 2, 2018 Posted May 2, 2018 This plan sounds to me like surrender now he can't do it. I bet he hits 60%! 1
3rdand12 Posted May 2, 2018 Posted May 2, 2018 (edited) 15 minutes ago, No Cease Fires said: Was just about to post this. Great article, and I too hope the Bills embrace the boom-or-bust quality of Allen's game. nice avatar btw Edited May 2, 2018 by 3rdand12
MrEpsYtown Posted May 2, 2018 Posted May 2, 2018 3 minutes ago, Dr. Who said: I bet Trapasso still has a pic of Mason Rudolph pinned up somewheres. It's so sad that he couldn't mention him in the article because he only compared Allen to the other first round quarterbacks? 1
No Cease Fires Posted May 2, 2018 Posted May 2, 2018 5 minutes ago, 3rdand12 said: nice avatar btw Thanks. I like McDermott and Frazier but oh what coulda been.
26CornerBlitz Posted May 2, 2018 Author Posted May 2, 2018 10 minutes ago, Zac said: I'd be surprised if Allen is never a 60%+ completion % guy, but that's just me. I understand the principal of the article though. 3 minutes ago, No Cease Fires said: Regardless of how you feel about his opinions, it's an interesting piece on how best to use Allen. The first of its kind I've seen. Beane talked of a plan for each QB they might potentially draft and it will be interesting to see what Daboll has in store for Allen that plays to his strengths.
bills11 Posted May 2, 2018 Posted May 2, 2018 While i agree with certain aspects of the article...i dont agree with " hell never be a 60% passer..his low completion percentage in college was more of a system thing. Just watch baker mayfield vs ohio state..literally 70% of his passes were designed for easy completions..option te flat passes.. screens...option pass pitches..allen was asked to throw far more seam and deep comebacks and other throws which are much harder to complete 2
No Cease Fires Posted May 2, 2018 Posted May 2, 2018 17 minutes ago, bills11 said: While i agree with certain aspects of the article...i dont agree with " hell never be a 60% passer..his low completion percentage in college was more of a system thing. Just watch baker mayfield vs ohio state..literally 70% of his passes were designed for easy completions..option te flat passes.. screens...option pass pitches..allen was asked to throw far more seam and deep comebacks and other throws which are much harder to complete Yep. In this very article: In 2017, a whopping 67 percent of Allen's passing yards came through the air, not after the catch, per Sports Info Solutions. Here's how that stacks up with the other quarterbacks picked in the first round of the 2018 draft: Baker Mayfield: 49 percent Sam Darnold: 53.1 percent Josh Rosen: 50.5 percent Lamar Jackson: 54.0 percent 2 3
HappyDays Posted May 2, 2018 Posted May 2, 2018 21 minutes ago, Dr. Who said: I bet Trapasso still has a pic of Mason Rudolph pinned up somewheres. If Rudolph turns out good he'll look like a genius. Might be worth waiting to see what happens before assuming he's wrong.
White Linen Posted May 2, 2018 Posted May 2, 2018 Stopped reading after this: By drafting Josh Allen, the Bills took the biggest risk of all the teams that selected a quarterback in the first round of the 2018 NFL Draft.
26CornerBlitz Posted May 2, 2018 Author Posted May 2, 2018 2 minutes ago, White Linen said: Stopped reading after this: By drafting Josh Allen, the Bills took the biggest risk of all the teams that selected a quarterback in the first round of the 2018 NFL Draft. I think that's a pretty fair statement given the boom or bust nature of Allen as a prospect in combination with a trade up that cost them two 2nd round picks.
Kangaxx Posted May 2, 2018 Posted May 2, 2018 Who's to say Allen wouldn't be able to change his game so that he'd be able to get to 60%? His short passes to the sidelines are outside the hashes and those are for the most part are on the money. Most QBs throw those within the hashes if i'm not mistaken. People think it's impossible, but if you change up just a few things I bet he's be able to get to 60%. 2
HappyDays Posted May 2, 2018 Posted May 2, 2018 The last 2 paragraphs make a lot of sense: Allen almost assuredly won't be a 60 percent (or higher) passer in the NFL. The Bills shouldn't try to make him into one. They should accept he's going to turn the ball over and miss open targets at higher-than-league-average rates due to his inherent flaws. But he'll also make throws of which very few quarterbacks are capable and will significantly threaten defenses deep with his arm. Coupled with a steady dose of the ground game and a strong defense -- two other Carolina staples -- Buffalo can get the most out of Allen and his high variance. Basically just take a lot of shots past the 1st down line and hope his abilities there make up for his shortcomings on quick passes.
noacls Posted May 2, 2018 Posted May 2, 2018 25 minutes ago, HappyDays said: If Rudolph turns out good he'll look like a genius. Might be worth waiting to see what happens before assuming he's wrong. Sounds like you should take your own advice when it comes to Allen
quinnearlysghost88 Posted May 2, 2018 Posted May 2, 2018 Former Bills first-rounder EJ Manuel had a ball-placement issue, meaning the vast majority of his throws that were technically accurate enough for his receivers to make a catch were typically a little too high, too low, behind, or too out in front of their intended target. Allen will throw five strikes in a row with pinpoint accuracy, then launch a pass three yards over a wideout's head. That style is most manageable in a system with lower completion percentage expectations in the first place.
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