Heavy Kevi Posted May 2, 2018 Posted May 2, 2018 http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000930902/article/nfl-power-rankings-giants-climb-after-2018-draft-bills-drop Here's the Bills exerpt: RANK 20 BILLS The Bills' slow lurch downward since the loss to the Jaguars in the Wild Card Round is not indicative of panic-worthy events. Rather, it's a reflection of how strong the team is right now. So,Bills Mafia, if you loved the Josh Allen choice, don't get angry. Because that pick doesn't do much to help the team in Week 1 of the 2018 season. He has an uphill curve ahead of him, although there are plenty of people who enjoy exaggerating that curve. Allen should be accelerating it. AJ McCarron is also a bit of an unknown, although he has flashed potential. Tremaine Edmunds(Round 1, No. 16) should get on the field rather quickly. By the way: That guy turned 20 on Wednesday. TWENTY. I was driving a Mitsubishi Mighty Max with no power steering and working at Bank One at 20. (Yeah, that place is defunct.)
Royale with Cheese Posted May 2, 2018 Posted May 2, 2018 I actually am pulling for McCaron to start. He has been chomping at the bit for a starting role and knowing what I know about him....he's going to work hard to get it. If McCaron starts and plays decently....he's good draft capital for next year. If Allen surprises early and wins the job....even better but I think he needs to sit at least a year. 6
Heavy Kevi Posted May 2, 2018 Author Posted May 2, 2018 2 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: I actually am pulling for McCaron to start. He has been chomping at the bit for a starting role and knowing what I know about him....he's going to work hard to get it. If McCaron starts and plays decently....he's good draft capital for next year. If Allen surprises early and wins the job....even better but I think he needs to sit at least a year. I fully agree. I know we are going to see Allen eventually, but really want to see what AJ can do. If AJ does start, I expect 37 "Start Allen" threads as soon as AJ throws an incompletion. That will get old, but I would be fine with giving AJ the year, as long as he earns it to start the season. 1
CLTbills Posted May 2, 2018 Posted May 2, 2018 7 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: I actually am pulling for McCaron to start. He has been chomping at the bit for a starting role and knowing what I know about him....he's going to work hard to get it. If McCaron starts and plays decently....he's good draft capital for next year. If Allen surprises early and wins the job....even better but I think he needs to sit at least a year. I am too. I feel like McDermott is the kind of guy who will start the guy who deserves to start, regardless of where he was drafted, etc. He's a no nonsense guy that doesn't seem to buy into the politics of it all. If Allen wins the job outright? Then so be it. 1
whatdrought Posted May 2, 2018 Posted May 2, 2018 15 minutes ago, Shotgunner said: http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000930902/article/nfl-power-rankings-giants-climb-after-2018-draft-bills-drop Here's the Bills exerpt: RANK 20 BILLS The Bills' slow lurch downward since the loss to the Jaguars in the Wild Card Round is not indicative of panic-worthy events. Rather, it's a reflection of how strong the team is right now. So,Bills Mafia, if you loved the Josh Allen choice, don't get angry. Because that pick doesn't do much to help the team in Week 1 of the 2018 season. He has an uphill curve ahead of him, although there are plenty of people who enjoy exaggerating that curve. Allen should be accelerating it. AJ McCarron is also a bit of an unknown, although he has flashed potential. Tremaine Edmunds(Round 1, No. 16) should get on the field rather quickly. By the way: That guy turned 20 on Wednesday. TWENTY. I was driving a Mitsubishi Mighty Max with no power steering and working at Bank One at 20. (Yeah, that place is defunct.) I see the rationale that he's using here, but it's pretty lazy to assume that McCarron and Allen can't do as much as Tyrod. It goes to show what we've known all along- the outsiders look at stats and have no idea how bad our offense was behind Dennison and Taylor. 2
BillsFan17 Posted May 2, 2018 Posted May 2, 2018 I really hope AJ takes the reins and makes it extremely difficult for Allen to win the job. There is so much, IMO that needs to be done with Allen, that you don't want Josh to revert to habits hes been trying to break with the likes of Palmer. There is also the conundrum that a seventh overall pick, should realistically be able to beat out a career backup. Terminology and grasping the playbook also shouldn't be an issue with Allen who is intelligent. Either way, like the snippet mentions Allen should be excelling the curve not elongating it.
BuffaloHokie13 Posted May 2, 2018 Posted May 2, 2018 Rosters are still very much in flux and ours in particular has a lot of unknowns. I'm not sure that power rankings are going to be very meaningful (using that term loosely) until mid-season.
HiddenInLight Posted May 2, 2018 Posted May 2, 2018 Honestly, I'd love to see AJ come out playing like a probowler this year. I'd love to see the same thing with Allen. That being said, as long as our starter is helping us win games instead of causing us to lose games I don't care what name is on the back of the Jersey. Personally, I think AJ comes out playing like an average QB option, maybe giving a little less upside then Andy Dalton would give. Allen sits on the bench for at least half the year, if not all season, and wins the starting job next year. Peterman doesn't likely finish the year on the roster.
whatdrought Posted May 2, 2018 Posted May 2, 2018 Just now, BuffaloHokie13 said: Rosters are still very much in flux and ours in particular has a lot of unknowns. I'm not sure that power rankings are going to be very meaningful (using that term loosely) until mid-season. To be honest, Harrison is never really useful (in my opinion) and is pretty strongly biased against smaller market/less sexy teams.
colin Posted May 2, 2018 Posted May 2, 2018 i was worried about qb production from our new, soon to be HOF, rookie, but then i looked at the box scores and remembered tyrods games last year. he was just terrible. we just stank on O last season, so now our d is better and will will be equal to better early on O, and way better by the end. get ready to win, bills fans. 1
whatdrought Posted May 2, 2018 Posted May 2, 2018 Just now, HiddenInLight said: Honestly, I'd love to see AJ come out playing like a probowler this year. I'd love to see the same thing with Allen. That being said, as long as our starter is helping us win games instead of causing us to lose games I don't care what name is on the back of the Jersey. Personally, I think AJ comes out playing like an average QB option, maybe giving a little less upside then Andy Dalton would give. Allen sits on the bench for at least half the year, if not all season, and wins the starting job next year. Peterman doesn't likely finish the year on the roster. Best case scenario: AJ lights it up for 10 games and puts us in the hunt for the playoffs, gets a minor injury (not that I wish injury on anyone) like a non-throwing wrist or something easy to bounce back from, Allen plays 6 games and goes crazy showing all his potential and leading us into the playoffs and beating the Pats in the wildcard round. Off season we trade AJ for a second and are well on our way. 1 minute ago, colin said: i was worried about qb production from our new, soon to be HOF, rookie, but then i looked at the box scores and remembered tyrods games last year. he was just terrible. we just stank on O last season, so now our d is better and will will be equal to better early on O, and way better by the end. get ready to win, bills fans. Even if Allen only completes 2 out of 3 throws (66%) we hopefully wont be hearing other teams game plan is to make our QB a QB. That arm immediately makes the DBs second guess themselves. Taylor never did. 1
colin Posted May 2, 2018 Posted May 2, 2018 dude, remember the jets/NO, NE stretch? Tyrod just turtled up and did nothing. was so hard to watch. or cincy, we get the late turnover, and he just freaking sat there and didn't throw, or threw a nice 5 yard out on 3rd and long.
HiddenInLight Posted May 2, 2018 Posted May 2, 2018 1 minute ago, whatdrought said: Best case scenario: AJ lights it up for 10 games and puts us in the hunt for the playoffs, gets a minor injury (not that I wish injury on anyone) like a non-throwing wrist or something easy to bounce back from, Allen plays 6 games and goes crazy showing all his potential and leading us into the playoffs and beating the Pats in the wildcard round. Off season we trade AJ for a second and are well on our way. I'll be honest, best case scenario is that AJ comes out and sets the league on fire, and STILL gets overtaken by Allen at the Bye. Allen shows the coaches in practice and TC that he's ready to go and better then AJ. Bills bench AJ and are lead to their first superbowl win by this crazy rookie player who then goes on to have a HOF career winning more superbowls then Tom Brady, without any of the cheating. AJ gets traded in the offseason to the Browns for their first overall pick because they have inexplicably been unable to win a single game for the second year in a row. 1
Sky Diver Posted May 2, 2018 Posted May 2, 2018 "The Bills' slow lurch downward since the loss to the Jaguars in the Wild Card Round is not indicative of panic-worthy events. Rather, it's a reflection of how strong the team is right now." Is it me, or are these statements nonsensical?
C.Biscuit97 Posted May 2, 2018 Posted May 2, 2018 23 minutes ago, whatdrought said: I see the rationale that he's using here, but it's pretty lazy to assume that McCarron and Allen can't do as much as Tyrod. It goes to show what we've known all along- the outsiders look at stats and have no idea how bad our offense was behind Dennison and Taylor. Say what you want to about Tyrod (and Wasn’t a big fan) but he was an average nfl starting qb who could make plays with his feet and didn’t lose you games. We have no idea what AJ will be and our skill players besides McCoy are kinda bad. It was a miracle we made the playoffs last year. I expect an improved D, a worst O, and hopefully Allen gets some playin time and shows some home. I didn’t want him but if he can show promise, it will be a good year no matter the record.
BillsFan17 Posted May 2, 2018 Posted May 2, 2018 8 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: Say what you want to about Tyrod (and Wasn’t a big fan) but he was an average nfl starting qb who could make plays with his feet and didn’t lose you games. We have no idea what AJ will be and our skill players besides McCoy are kinda bad. It was a miracle we made the playoffs last year. I expect an improved D, a worst O, and hopefully Allen gets some playin time and shows some home. I didn’t want him but if he can show promise, it will be a good year no matter the record. The guy was in the top three in sacks against, playing behind one of the top rated lines in the league last year. I dont want to hear about how he makes all these plays with his feet. Moreover, if the argument is he makes plays with his feet, then make him a WR or a RB, because he absolutely cost us games when teams openly came out and said, WE MADE TYROD BE A QB. When teams did that we saw sub 70 yard passing performances with 0TDs/2INTs in those games. Not moving the ball as a QB absolutley costs teams games.
Royale with Cheese Posted May 2, 2018 Posted May 2, 2018 40 minutes ago, BuffaloHokie13 said: Rosters are still very much in flux and ours in particular has a lot of unknowns. I'm not sure that power rankings are going to be very meaningful (using that term loosely) until mid-season. I believe we were ranging between 26-30 last year at this time.
Heavy Kevi Posted May 2, 2018 Author Posted May 2, 2018 42 minutes ago, whatdrought said: I see the rationale that he's using here, but it's pretty lazy to assume that McCarron and Allen can't do as much as Tyrod. It goes to show what we've known all along- the outsiders look at stats and have no idea how bad our offense was behind Dennison and Taylor. Yeah... 3 times last year we only managed to muster 3 points. I know TT was great at not turning the ball over, but I want to put points on the board. 29th ranked offense isn't going to cut it, so realistically, the new QBs don't really have to be THAT good to be better.
Drunken Pygmy Goat Posted May 2, 2018 Posted May 2, 2018 IMO, I don't think 20 is all that bad, all things considered. Our QBs are rather unknown, and that is the most important position after all. AJ may have shown some flashes in his limited playing time in Cincy, but he also had better WRs, and a defense that was rather stingy to lean on. But we have yet to see him perform in this offense, which is still an unknown in its own way. He did have some decent numbers in his few starts, but also had a couple bone-headed mistakes; not uncommon with inexperienced QBs, but still...the good thing is that Daboll knows AJ pretty well, and will cater to his skills accordingly. Our defense likely going to have to keep the Bills in games, and with the additions they've made on that side of the ball via free agency and the draft, I think they'll be better than they were last year. Our pass rush should be improved, and Edmunds will serve as our "Kuechly" so to speak. Whether or not the Bills finish around 20, or better or worse, will depend on what we get from our QB. And I think it's prett safe to assume that Allen will start at some point this year, given the recent history of 1st round rookie QBs in the league, unless AJ plays much better than we expect. Win-win either way, IMO. 1 hour ago, Royale with Cheese said: I actually am pulling for McCaron to start. He has been chomping at the bit for a starting role and knowing what I know about him....he's going to work hard to get it. If McCaron starts and plays decently....he's good draft capital for next year. If Allen surprises early and wins the job....even better but I think he needs to sit at least a year. Totally agree. 1
bufrock j Posted May 2, 2018 Posted May 2, 2018 1 hour ago, colin said: dude, remember the jets/NO, NE stretch? Tyrod just turtled up and did nothing. was so hard to watch. or cincy, we get the late turnover, and he just freaking sat there and didn't throw, or threw a nice 5 yard out on 3rd and long. i remember thinking that TT was the worst QB in the league during that stretch and then second worst QB all the rest of the time its a shame he gets credit for getting us to playoffs cause he sure does not deserve it, just TERRIBLE have fun brownies
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