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Russ Brandon - Leaving Role as President of Bills & Sabres due to workplace behavior and allegations of personal misconduct


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1 minute ago, jmc12290 said:

No. I won't.

 

Vague, anonymous accusations do not constitute evidence of wrongdoing. 

 

Don't be what's wrong with the world.

 

There's always a few to stay behind on the titanic, and you should feel proud for doing so.

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16 minutes ago, NewEra said:

Let’s hope Kim knows how to be a President of an NFL and NHL hockey team....at the same time.  Hopefully they are looking for replacements for the two positions  This could be the beginning of the end of it isn’t.  Beane and Botteril better be the truth

Well one thing for sure,  she won't be playing grab ass on the job so about 40% of her time is freed up.

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Just now, TakeYouToTasker said:

 

What do you mean "taking advantage"?  By definition "consensual relationship" generally means no advantage was taken, but rather any advantage was freely given.

 

The standards should be applied evenly, otherwise we are living in a caste system.

 

If you learned anything other than that, I believe what you learned was wrong.  (Important to note, that's not a personal judgment about you, but rather about the material being discussed.)

Any intracompany relationship when you are the CEO will be viewed as taking advantage.  No matter consensual or not.  Its part of the role.  You are the company, the entity, the owner's representative, the ultimate operational authority.  You approve hiring, firing, promoting.   

 

Any relationship that becomes intimate or personal is seen internally and externally as one that could compromise the company and compromise your decision-making ability.  If you don't get this -- I am really at a loss for how to explain it other than this.

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Just now, GoBills808 said:

Come on, you know this is wrong...

I am a student advisor at a university in California......I am surrounded by over 18 "tens" all day long that I advise and they are highly impressionable because of this.....

 

In the 17 years I have been doing this job I have never ONCE had a relationship at my work....not even with another staff member.

 

"dont @*$* where you work/eat"

2 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

I'm actually relieved because if he were under investigation before the draft, it seems likely he would be a "lame duck" in the draft room and not have much influence.

Sir when did you become a mod?

 

Always thought you would have been a good choice for that.

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4 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said:

 

That's a dangerous statement - ANY circumstance in which a male dates a female subordinate is not acceptable?  I don't think that's right, and it's not even most companies' policies.  You just need to disclose it (most of the time) so that you don't unfairly disadvantage OTHER employees who you're not dating, among other issues and circumstances.

Not when you are the CEO.  Its different.  You will be seen as compromised by engaging in an internal relationship.

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1 minute ago, SDS said:

 

He's an at will employee. His employers chose to fire him. Perhaps he should have sought union protection? 

 

I trust that the reasons for his firing were sufficient for Kim and Terry and their business.

 

P.S. Your optics are awful.

 

He is (was) an at will employee, and his employers did choose to fire him.  That's their right, and one I support fully.

 

I do not, however, in this environment, on the heels of a runaway #metoo movement built by individuals actively seeking to harm powerful men by pathologizing normal healthy male sexuality, trust anyone making this sort of decision unless they present evidence.

 

I understand why you do, because we all know where your bread is buttered.

 

P.S. I don't really care about your opinion about my "optics".  I'm concerned with realities, not optics; and the reality is that this sort of thing happens far too frequently to men guilty of nothing more than being men; but they are presumed to be guilty of whatever they are charged with, and it's wrong.

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6 minutes ago, TakeYouToTasker said:

 

What do you mean "taking advantage"?  By definition "consensual relationship" generally means no advantage was taken, but rather any advantage was freely given.

 

The standards should be applied evenly, otherwise we are living in a caste system.

 

If you learned anything other than that, I believe what you learned was wrong.  (Important to note, that's not a personal judgment about you, but rather about the material being discussed.)

 

Your brain is a Rube Goldberg machine

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Russ was a dynamic marketing mind that kept this team's season ticket and marketing afloat for decades longer than it should have.

 

And having hung out with him once upon a time, he was a really good dude.  Isn't a guy on this board that wouldn't enjoy having a beer with him.

 

Sad day. But today we live in a world (especially with a female owner) where we no longer tolerates extra marital affairs or unwelcome work misconduct.

 

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2 minutes ago, JoeF said:

Not when you are the CEO.  Its different.  You will be seen as compromised by engaging in an internal relationship.

 

That may be so if you're in a position of ultimate power and everyone is effectively a subordinate.  But it's not always the case.  And usually if it's disclosed right away, there is considerable discretion in terms of the company's response.

 

Anyhow, we're still just speculating as to what actually happened.  And sorry you've been through it.  I can somewhat relate.

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What an idiot.  Especially when you consider the second in command, Kim, is a female and you don’t want to screw around w ladies at work when a female is running the show.  Well, maybe now they can get away from St. John Fisher and move closer to home for training camp.

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1 minute ago, Coach Tuesday said:

 

That may be so if you're in a position of ultimate power and everyone is effectively a subordinate.  But it's not always the case.  And usually if it's disclosed right away, there is considerable discretion in terms of the company's response.

I was the President and CEO in my situation.

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