Lurker Posted May 1, 2018 Posted May 1, 2018 4 minutes ago, BillsVet said: Who is Napoli's going to sell suits to now? Kim wears the pants at PS&E, so I guess she'd be as good a spokesperson as any... 1
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted May 1, 2018 Posted May 1, 2018 2 minutes ago, TakeYouToTasker said: If it's a repeated thing with the same woman, that rises to the level of harassment. Possibly. If it's different women, it's les likely. Either way, we don't know, so I'm not celebrating. On principal. One would have to assume it was a multiple time thing with the same woman. Otherwise, what impetus would there be for "resignation?"
SDS Posted May 1, 2018 Posted May 1, 2018 3 minutes ago, TakeYouToTasker said: He is losing his livelihood at a time he didn't plan to. For anyone, regardless of compensation levels, that's a step towards financial ruin. And even if you are happy to see him go, which is fair, are you so eager to see him gone that you don't mind seeing him hustled out the door on nebulous charges of "workplace misconduct"? I'm not. He's an at will employee. His employers chose to fire him. Perhaps he should have sought union protection? I trust that the reasons for his firing were sufficient for Kim and Terry and their business. P.S. Your optics are awful. 4 2
TakeYouToTasker Posted May 1, 2018 Posted May 1, 2018 1 minute ago, JoeF said: One thing I learned is that if you are in a position of power the standards are different. Taking advantage of that position even in a consensual relationship is not acceptable in any circumstance. You need to be aware of the position you hold and what you represent. So it's not criminal but criminally bad judgment and could have civil implications. What do you mean "taking advantage"? By definition "consensual relationship" generally means no advantage was taken, but rather any advantage was freely given. The standards should be applied evenly, otherwise we are living in a caste system. If you learned anything other than that, I believe what you learned was wrong. (Important to note, that's not a personal judgment about you, but rather about the material being discussed.)
BringBackOrton Posted May 1, 2018 Posted May 1, 2018 2 minutes ago, fridge said: Don't be obtuse. No. I won't. Vague, anonymous accusations do not constitute evidence of wrongdoing. Don't be what's wrong with the world.
boater Posted May 1, 2018 Posted May 1, 2018 The interesting thing here: "when confronted by Kim Pegula" RB lied. I like it that Terry Pegula uses a hatchet-man, or cleaner so to speak. He keeps his hands clean. It's even cooler that his successful hatchet-man is his wife. I hope she stays as President.
Coach Tuesday Posted May 1, 2018 Posted May 1, 2018 4 minutes ago, JoeF said: One thing I learned is that if you are in a position of power the standards are different. Taking advantage of that position even in a consensual relationship is not acceptable in any circumstance. You need to be aware of the position you hold and what you represent. So it's not criminal but criminally bad judgment and could have civil implications. That's a dangerous statement - ANY circumstance in which a male dates a female subordinate is not acceptable? I don't think that's right, and it's not even most companies' policies. You just need to disclose it (most of the time) so that you don't unfairly disadvantage OTHER employees who you're not dating, among other issues and circumstances.
BuffaloRush Posted May 1, 2018 Posted May 1, 2018 14 minutes ago, JoeF said: Not fired, but it impacted a contract renewal and I decided to go off on my own... I owned it with my board, came completely clean and when the time came to extend my deal, I left. Its been a great decision to both own it and go off on my own, but I had to suck it up. Life is sometimes about understanding your own weaknesses, admitting them, asking for and getting help and moving on. It wasn't harassment but consensual in a unique situation. Neither party was married, but I was the senior executive. The standards are different. Gotcha man. It sucks that you went through it. I think it’s a real heightened time for that kind of thing these days.
The Big Cat Posted May 1, 2018 Posted May 1, 2018 24 minutes ago, TakeYouToTasker said: While I'm sure this will be an unpopular opinion here, both because of Brandon's (some would say deserved) unpopularity amongst the fan base, and because of a rush by SJWs and those afraid to confront them, to assume the guilt of any man accused of misbehavior; before I celebrate steps towards the financial ruin of another human being, I'd like to hear/see the evidence, know how the investigation was conducted, and hear Brandon's side. Until then I stand opposed, on principle. You're delusional if you think any of that will be publicly granted.
billsredneck1 Posted May 1, 2018 Posted May 1, 2018 38 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said: John WawrowVerified account @john_wawrow 34s35 seconds ago More ¶ ORCHARD PARK, N.Y. (AP) _ A person with direct knowledge of the decision tells The Associated Press that Buffalo Bills and Sabres president Russ Brandon is leaving his post in a major shake-up made by the teams' owners, Terry and Kim Pegula. Edit: http://buffalonews.com/2018/05/01/russ-brandon-resigns-from-bills-sabres-after-internal-investigation/ Russ Brandon has resigned as managing partner and president of the Pegula sports empire. Kim Pegula has taken over as president. The move comes after Pegula Sports and Entertainment conducted an internal investigation into Brandon's workplace behavior and allegations of personal misconduct, two sources told The Buffalo News. Kim Pegula on Friday informed Brandon an internal investigation was being conducted. Two sources with knowledge of the investigation said it was triggered by allegations of inappropriate relationships with female employees. When confronted by Kim Pegula, the sources said, Brandon denied any such relationships, but the investigation indicated he was deceitful about that and other job-related issues that were uncovered. doooooooh!!!!!!
GoBills808 Posted May 1, 2018 Posted May 1, 2018 1 minute ago, TakeYouToTasker said: What do you mean "taking advantage"? By definition "consensual relationship" generally means no advantage was taken, but rather any advantage was freely given. The standards should be applied evenly, otherwise we are living in a caste system. If you learned anything other than that, I believe what you learned was wrong. (Important to note, that's not a personal judgment about you, but rather about the material being discussed.) Come on, you know this is wrong...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted May 1, 2018 Posted May 1, 2018 19 minutes ago, BuffaloHokie13 said: Clearly Russ made the decision to draft Josh Allen I'm actually relieved because if he were under investigation before the draft, it seems likely he would be a "lame duck" in the draft room and not have much influence.
The Big Cat Posted May 1, 2018 Posted May 1, 2018 7 minutes ago, TakeYouToTasker said: He is losing his livelihood at a time he didn't plan to. For anyone, regardless of compensation levels, that's a step towards financial ruin. And even if you are happy to see him go, which is fair, are you so eager to see him gone that you don't mind seeing him hustled out the door on nebulous charges of "workplace misconduct"? I'm not. Bro...in theory... when the nice lady at the grocery register rang me up twice for string cheese, that could also count as a step towards financial ruin.
BringBackOrton Posted May 1, 2018 Posted May 1, 2018 (edited) 3 minutes ago, SDS said: He's an at will employee. His employers chose to fire him. Perhaps he should have sought union protection? I trust that the reasons for his firing were sufficient for Kim and Terry and their business. P.S. Your optics are awful. Do you celebrate when bad gas station attendants get fired too? Crack open a bottle of Dom when a lawyer gets fired for poor performance after a divorce? Terry and Kim thought Rex was a wise investment. When did they become infallible again? Edited May 1, 2018 by jmc12290
Max Fischer Posted May 1, 2018 Posted May 1, 2018 19 minutes ago, TakeYouToTasker said: That's the thing about advances. You don't know if they are unwanted, or otherwise, until after you've made the advance. We should not be attempting to pathologize normal male sexuality, not even in the work place. Wow, dude. It’s really not that hard to figure out how to do the right thing. 2
billsredneck1 Posted May 1, 2018 Posted May 1, 2018 35 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said: Damn. That's a sad way to go out for a hometown kid who worked his way up. Like him or hate him, he worked his tail off for both franchises. i do have to give him that.
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