Just Joshin' Posted May 2, 2018 Posted May 2, 2018 1 hour ago, PromoTheRobot said: I see we have gone from celebrating the firing of one sports executive to vilifying a new one, all in a span of 19 pages. Bravo, TBD. Sad but true. 1
MAJBobby Posted May 2, 2018 Posted May 2, 2018 44 minutes ago, Rosen-not-Chosen said: It's similar enough, underqualified, got the job because she's family. I assumed it was temporary, knowing it's permanent tells me these owners are bush league. Its not even close to similar. She is an OWNER. It is no different than a CEO stepping in to fill a president role after that president was canned for something wrong. Stop the bleeding. Stabalize and Move forward. Doesnt matter if someone managed 100K or 100B it is all the same and if someone tells you different they are selling you on false Info 2
Rob's House Posted May 2, 2018 Posted May 2, 2018 16 minutes ago, akm0404 said: Lol no dude, women don’t like being propositioned for sex by their boss. No matter how much you just ooze masculinity and raw sexuality, they just want to do their work in peace. I'm glad to know you speak for all women. I know several who disagree with you, but I'll make sure to set them straight.
Herc11 Posted May 2, 2018 Posted May 2, 2018 4 hours ago, Klaista2k said: Why is okay for Josh Allen to make racial and homophobic statements but it's not ok for Russ Brandon to hook up with a female employee? You don't think that a 40+ yr old man that is the president of a company is held to a higher standard than a 15 year old high school kid? 1
teef Posted May 2, 2018 Posted May 2, 2018 3 hours ago, TakeYouToTasker said: People are people first, wherever they are. I don't stop being a man, and a woman does not stop being a woman, no matter where we are; and in today's world we spend more time with the people we work with, at work, then we do anywhere else or with anyone else. Work makes up the overwhelming majority of most people's entire social circle. It is OK to make an advance towards someone you find attractive, even at work. Holy smokes.
MAJBobby Posted May 2, 2018 Posted May 2, 2018 40 minutes ago, Rosen-not-Chosen said: Odds are she is too inexperienced and this puts the franchise farther behind others in the league. Really so What does the President of a team do???
Hapless Bills Fan Posted May 2, 2018 Posted May 2, 2018 1 minute ago, Rob's House said: I'm glad to know you speak for all women. I know several who disagree with you, but I'll make sure to set them straight. They may like being propositioned by their boss, they may not like being propositioned by their boss. It makes no difference. Because of the assymmetric power in a boss-subordinate relationship, companies have made a decision (years ago) that is not appropriate 3 2
ColoradoBills Posted May 2, 2018 Posted May 2, 2018 2 minutes ago, Wayne Arnold said: Russ! It's really you! It all makes sense now. He did join Friday! You may be on to something here Wayne. Connecting those..............................
Rob's House Posted May 2, 2018 Posted May 2, 2018 17 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: We just got to agree to disagree here. When everyone's happy, it's all cute 'n sweet. Awwww. Kittens and flowers. When the romance goes sour, and it doesn't just distract the participants, it f*cks up the morale on the project team two weeks short of a big deadline, not so cute. When one party is supervising the other (and note gender there) it causes all sorts of grief - at best, employees who aren't happy about their work assignment or their PR think they were dissed off in favor of The Squeeze. At worst, it's a LOL (lawsuit on legs) when the supervisee wants out of it and the assymmetrical power thing comes into view Whether the people involved are happy, willing, and eager really has no bearing on whether it's a good thing for the business IMO, your views reflect considerable naivete but that's just my opinion. We're talking about two different things here. You're talking about the practical complications that can arise in certain situations, which I agree is prudent to consider before getting involved with a coworker. I'm talking about the alleged immorality of dating a coworker.
Hapless Bills Fan Posted May 2, 2018 Posted May 2, 2018 16 minutes ago, akm0404 said: Please don’t. Just report and ignore the obvious troll. Thank you
GoBills808 Posted May 2, 2018 Posted May 2, 2018 1 minute ago, Rob's House said: We're talking about two different things here. You're talking about the practical complications that can arise in certain situations, which I agree is prudent to consider before getting involved with a coworker. I'm talking about the alleged immorality of dating a coworker. AFAIK nobody is saying anything about the morality of dating coworkers. The predominant topics were issues of consent when there is an imbalance of power/position between the two and liability for the company. 2
MAJBobby Posted May 2, 2018 Posted May 2, 2018 22 minutes ago, Rosen-not-Chosen said: Women in the office don't want to do their work in peace, they form cliques and get all catty with each other, and that usually revolves around who gets the attention from the male coworkers. Their main concerns are what to wear and who will notice it. Mind answering who is the CEO of Lockheed Martin?
Rob's House Posted May 2, 2018 Posted May 2, 2018 2 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: They may like being propositioned by their boss, they may not like being propositioned by their boss. It makes no difference. Because of the assymmetric power in a boss-subordinate relationship, companies have made a decision (years ago) that is not appropriate I don't think it's always that black and white. As a general rule I agree, but sometimes things happen naturally. I've been involved with a direct superior before and did not feel exploited or taken advantage of in the slightest.
akm0404 Posted May 2, 2018 Posted May 2, 2018 5 minutes ago, Rob's House said: I'm glad to know you speak for all women. I know several who disagree with you, but I'll make sure to set them straight. Perhaps you are misunderstanding what people are saying here. Nobody really cares about Bob from Marketing dating Sally from Accounting. Bob and Sally can have loads of fun like two consenting adults are want to do. This is not at all what we are talking about here. We are talking about someone at the top of the food chain propositioning subordinates. This is bad. This gets you forced to resign in disgrace. How this is even a conversation is eye-opening. 2
Hapless Bills Fan Posted May 2, 2018 Posted May 2, 2018 2 minutes ago, Rob's House said: We're talking about two different things here. You're talking about the practical complications that can arise in certain situations, which I agree is prudent to consider before getting involved with a coworker. I'm talking about the alleged immorality of dating a coworker. I missed that this was a thread about immorality. I'm not worried about "immorality" and maybe I missed it, but I didn't see much other worry. I thought it was a thread about Russ Brandon getting fired, allegedly for sexual relationships with his direct reports, with collateral discussion about whether/why sexual relationships with coworkers (especially direct reports) is appropriate. To me, they aren't, because of the practical complications I mentioned. 1
MAJBobby Posted May 2, 2018 Posted May 2, 2018 20 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: Think that you missed the point. It makes total sense why she got the job. She isn’t the best person for that job in that building. Those 2 things are both true. So lets see for You this is what the answer is. Well we just fired or forced out our President. Instead of stopping the bleeding, lets just already hire someone to be President within 15 min??? And you talk about your experience leading.
Mr. ChumChums Posted May 2, 2018 Posted May 2, 2018 Seriously, why are we even talking about Kim Pegula in this context, beyond that she met with Brandon? @Rosen-not-Chosen sounds like he's got an agenda with serious beef, since he's trying to redirect the conversation away from what's important here, that being the following: Brandon is being investigated for sexual harassment / misconduct in the office Brandon is resigning The vast majority of fans over the past 10+ years have hated Brandon, and have waited for this day to happen. Honestly, there's no reason to promote false equivalency by trying to focus attention on Kim, unless @Rosen-not-Chosen has got a hidden agenda. Like others have said on this board, he's either a troll, he's Russ Brandon, or he's both.
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