akm0404 Posted May 2, 2018 Posted May 2, 2018 (edited) Some pretty solid hot takes from the “healthy male sexuality is being vilified” crowd when dudes aren’t allowed to rub up against their female coworkers anymore. I know you guys are just drooling to shake your out-of-touch fists at all those social justice warrior snowflakes, but uh, the guy resigned from his job due to the allegations. He wasn’t fired. If if he were innocent of wrong doing, he was perfectly able to not resign and challenge his termination through legal remedy. But yah, damn uppity women folk just want to go to work and do their jobs and not touch your penis. How I miss the good old days Edited May 2, 2018 by akm0404 2 1 4
Hapless Bills Fan Posted May 2, 2018 Posted May 2, 2018 On 5/1/2018 at 11:30 PM, Rosen-not-Chosen said: I wonder if the women gets to keep her job? Expand If you're reading the thread, our internal source reports she's gone
MJS Posted May 2, 2018 Posted May 2, 2018 The only thing I took from this is that there are 4 whole hours devoted to Schopp & The Bulldog!? That sounds like torture. Seriously, that kind of cruel and unusual punishment could be illegal. 3 2
Rosen-not-Chosen Posted May 2, 2018 Posted May 2, 2018 On 5/2/2018 at 12:19 AM, Kirby Jackson said: We aren’t saying the same thing then I guess. There is NOTHING in terms of running the business side of a sports team that she can do that Dave Wheat cannot. There are hundreds and likely thousands of things that he knows about the job that she doesn’t. That’s not hyperbole either. Again, we may never notice but I promise you there are many, many people that they employ that know the business better. When she goes and sits in the senior staff meeting what is she going to do besides for listen? She cannot drive these plans because the people under her are miles ahead. She can’t talk to pricing strategy, corporate assets, community initiatives, stadium operations, game operations, etc... The president sits over all of those departments. A good president is as strong in all of those areas as the people under him/her. They let the people work but provide valuable insight and strategy. She isn’t capable of doing that. I know that for a fact. Again, I expected her to be in this role and don’t think that it is weird. My whole point is that it isn’t what is best for the Bills. The best case scenario is to have your strongest people with the most responsibility. The Pegula’s felt burned by Russ so they pulled in the reigns and are doing it themselves. I get it. It just isn’t for the best. Expand I already thought this ownership was a bit over their heads, now you have me even more worried for the future of the franchise...
KHAN Posted May 2, 2018 Posted May 2, 2018 On 5/2/2018 at 12:01 AM, PromoTheRobot said: I see we have gone from celebrating the firing of one sports executive to vilifying a new one, all in a span of 19 pages. Bravo, TBD. Expand The lack of common decency around here is staggering.
N.Y. Orangeman Posted May 2, 2018 Posted May 2, 2018 On 5/2/2018 at 12:19 AM, Kirby Jackson said: We aren’t saying the same thing then I guess. There is NOTHING in terms of running the business side of a sports team that she can do that Dave Wheat cannot. There are hundreds and likely thousands of things that he knows about the job that she doesn’t. That’s not hyperbole either. Again, we may never notice but I promise you there are many, many people that they employ that know the business better. When she goes and sits in the senior staff meeting what is she going to do besides for listen? She cannot drive these plans because the people under her are miles ahead. She can’t talk to pricing strategy, corporate assets, community initiatives, stadium operations, game operations, etc... The president sits over all of those departments. A good president is as strong in all of those areas as the people under him/her. They let the people work but provide valuable insight and strategy. She isn’t capable of doing that. I know that for a fact. Again, I expected her to be in this role and don’t think that it is weird. My whole point is that it isn’t what is best for the Bills. The best case scenario is to have your strongest people with the most responsibility. The Pegula’s felt burned by Russ so they pulled in the reigns and are doing it themselves. I get it. It just isn’t for the best. Expand I think you are making the assumption that she hasn't learned a thing in the past 5 years. I'm not saying she doesn't have the background in building these strategies from the ground up, but I think you are dismissing a) the transferability of her skills from a much larger organization she built and b) that she hasn't learned a thing since the Pegulas bought the Sabres. I respect your experience here, but I guess we differ on her potential to a decent job with this position. I hope I am right
Rosen-not-Chosen Posted May 2, 2018 Posted May 2, 2018 (edited) On 5/2/2018 at 12:21 AM, KHAN said: The lack of common decency around here is staggering. Expand And nepotism destroys companies Edited May 2, 2018 by Rosen-not-Chosen
Kirby Jackson Posted May 2, 2018 Posted May 2, 2018 On 5/2/2018 at 12:21 AM, Rosen-not-Chosen said: I already thought this ownership was a bit over their heads, now you have me even more worried for the future of the franchise... Expand Ha ha, I already said I wasn’t trying to be a downer. I’m just telling it like I see it. If she operates as a figurehead it will be okay. If she tries to actually do what the job entails it will not be good. I’ll use a basketball analogy. It would be like having an all-star on your bench while you are starting Melo because he makes $28M a year. You will still play the all-star some but you aren’t maximizing your potential because the person in front of him has a certain “entitlement.”
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted May 2, 2018 Posted May 2, 2018 EASILY a $1.5 mil+ to walk the plank.....oh well..........
dulles Posted May 2, 2018 Posted May 2, 2018 On 5/2/2018 at 12:21 AM, MJS said: The only thing I took from this is that there are 4 whole hours devoted to Schopp & The Bulldog!? That sounds like torture. Seriously, that kind of cruel and unusual punishment could be illegal. Expand Maybe that is part of Brandon's punishment?
BringBackOrton Posted May 2, 2018 Posted May 2, 2018 On 5/2/2018 at 12:22 AM, N.Y. Orangeman said: I think you are making the assumption that she hasn't learned a thing in the past 5 years. I'm not saying she doesn't have the background in building these strategies from the ground up, but I think you are dismissing a) the transferability of her skills from a much larger organization she built and b) that she hasn't learned a thing since the Pegulas bought the Sabres. I respect your experience here, but I guess we differ on her potential to a decent job with this position. I hope I am right Expand
DrDawkinstein Posted May 2, 2018 Posted May 2, 2018 (edited) This was only a matter of time. If you're a female that has gone out downtown, you have a 87% chance of being molested by Russ Brandon. It's a pretty known thing. Dude is a scumbag. Dude has been a scumbag. I've always been convinced he was actually behind most of the in-fighting between Marrone and Whaley. Good effing riddance on personal and professional levels. Edited May 2, 2018 by DrDawkinstein 3
Wayne Arnold Posted May 2, 2018 Posted May 2, 2018 On 5/1/2018 at 11:27 PM, jmc12290 said: Yes. And she got her job after meeting him as a waitress. Really tough to get from A to B there. Expand Was Terry married at the time? And is Kim multiple women? Otherwise I don't see the irony.
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted May 2, 2018 Posted May 2, 2018 (edited) On 5/2/2018 at 12:26 AM, DrDawkinstein said: This was only a matter of time. If you're a female that has gone out downtown, you have a 87% chance of being molested by Russ Brandon. It's a pretty known thing. Dude is a scumbag. Dude has been a scumbag. I've always been convinced he was actually behind most of the in-fighting between Marrone and Whaley. Good effing riddance and personal and professional levels. Expand ...you must be his agent then..and a woefully sad one......SMH............ Edited May 2, 2018 by OldTimeAFLGuy
DrDawkinstein Posted May 2, 2018 Posted May 2, 2018 On 5/2/2018 at 12:27 AM, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...you must be his agent then....SMH............ Expand Hahaha, no doubt, it could be higher.
Kirby Jackson Posted May 2, 2018 Posted May 2, 2018 On 5/2/2018 at 12:22 AM, N.Y. Orangeman said: I think you are making the assumption that she hasn't learned a thing in the past 5 years. I'm not saying she doesn't have the background in building these strategies from the ground up, but I think you are dismissing a) the transferability of her skills from a much larger organization she built and b) that she hasn't learned a thing since the Pegulas bought the Sabres. I respect your experience here, but I guess we differ on her potential to a decent job with this position. I hope I am right Expand I’m not saying that at all. I’m saying that her 5 years of learning on the job don’t compare to Dave Wheat’s decade and a half as a C-level executive in sports. There are others that have even more experience than he does.
MJS Posted May 2, 2018 Posted May 2, 2018 On 5/2/2018 at 12:25 AM, dulles said: Maybe that is part of Brandon's punishment? Expand And I assume Shopp & Bulldog get paid for it. That's another mind boggling aspect. 1
BringBackOrton Posted May 2, 2018 Posted May 2, 2018 On 5/2/2018 at 12:26 AM, Wayne Arnold said: Was Terry married at the time? And is Kim multiple women? Otherwise I don't see the irony. Expand If you'd read the thread, you'd see how the Pegulas' relationship wouldn't fly today under the new precedent and rules of workplace romance.
Wayne Arnold Posted May 2, 2018 Posted May 2, 2018 On 5/2/2018 at 12:23 AM, Rosen-not-Chosen said: And nepotism destroys companies Expand If Kim had replaced Brandon with her son or daughter, that would be nepotism. Taking over herself is not nepotism.
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