Koko78 Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Tiberius said: No, you're just a moron. Edited May 25, 2018 by Koko78 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted May 29, 2018 Share Posted May 29, 2018 (edited) by Ed Driscoll ANALYSIS: TRUE. Democrats’ Sudden Concern For Gas Prices Is A Dodge To Hide Their Anti-Wallet Policies. Unfortunately for the left, it’s not hard to see what the party line was on gas prices back in the day. In 2008, before becoming Barack Obama’s Energy Secretary, Steven Chu said, “we have to figure out how to boost the price of gasoline to the levels in Europe,” which at the time was between $7 and $9 per gallon. The Obama Administration made pursuing high energy prices their prime directive. Flashbacks: ● Obama goes full YOLO: Proposes raising gas prices in final budget. ● “In 2008, then-Colorado Sen. Ken Salazar — now the secretary of the Department of the Interior in charge of the leasing of federal oil lands — refused to vote for any new offshore drilling. In a Senate exchange with Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.), Salazar objected to allowing any drilling on America’s outer continental shelf — even if gas prices reached $10 a gallon. We can now see why the president appointed Salazar, inasmuch as Obama recently promised the Brazilians that he would be eager to buy their newfound offshore oil — while prohibiting similar such exploration here at home.” ● NBC, the Washington Post, and the New York Times in lockstep call for higher gas taxes. ● 2008 L.A. Times headline: “The joy of $8 gas.” ● 2012 CNN headline: “Rising gas prices aren’t as bad as you think.” ● Reid draws line against Keystone. Exit quote: “Under my plan, energy costs will necessarily skyrocket…” ? Edited May 29, 2018 by B-Man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted May 29, 2018 Share Posted May 29, 2018 On 5/25/2018 at 1:24 PM, Koko78 said: So we've officially gone from the collusion narrative to the corruption narrative now? I can't wait for the next narrative after corruption goes the way of collusion. Oh there working on it behind the scenes right now I have no doubt. It’ll be the conspiracy of collusion to create a corrupt conservative cabal circumnavigating Constitutional concerns of career commentators. Ever notice how the Left always falsely accuse Republicans of what they themselves are actually doing? Their projections are astounding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted May 29, 2018 Author Share Posted May 29, 2018 All those bread crumbs tossed to us by this oligarchic congress passed right along to oil companies I thought drill baby drill would lower gas prices?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted May 29, 2018 Share Posted May 29, 2018 prices rise and fall on that supply and demand curve, nothing new here. just don't put a false limit on the price of gas again... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted May 29, 2018 Share Posted May 29, 2018 On 5/25/2018 at 11:37 AM, Wacka said: (Rest of Tib's rantings deleted) I remember paying almost $5. 00 wh n I lived in California. CA regular unleaded is around $3.75/gallon right now, and that is after the Dem-controlled state just raised it another 12 cents a gallon to pay for infrastructure repairs. I suspect this is where Tibs explains that Trump made the CA Dems increase the price of gas against their will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted May 29, 2018 Share Posted May 29, 2018 (edited) Chart of crude oil prices. Recessions marked as gray bars and $ adjusted for inflation. Edited May 29, 2018 by Nanker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocCityRoller Posted May 29, 2018 Share Posted May 29, 2018 (edited) On 5/1/2018 at 3:28 PM, Gugny said: But if I'm an electric/hybrid car owner, I'm not down with big brother monitoring my mileage or taxing me based upon said mileage. People buying those cars are already spending more money than similar model gasoline-powered vehicles; and they're helping the environment. Common misconception here regarding electric cars. 64% of the electricity used to power those cars in the USA is generated by fossil fuels (natural gas 32% and coal 30%). https://www.eia.gov/energyexplained/index.php?page=electricity_in_the_united_states A lot of people buying and flouting their use of electric cars get to virtue signal their commitment to environmentalism while ironically supporting fracking and coal mining. The pollution is simply moved upstream in the supply chain. Ironically the same people using such electric vehicles will often be among the first to condemn burning fossil fuels, fracking and the newer deregulation on coal mining, all the while increasing demand for those very things. Edited May 29, 2018 by RocCityRoller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted May 29, 2018 Author Share Posted May 29, 2018 3 hours ago, Nanker said: Chart of crude oil prices. Recessions marked as gray bars and $ adjusted for inflation. Fake azz news Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted June 4, 2018 Author Share Posted June 4, 2018 Oh no, Trump would never price gouge the American people. Never! Who would have ever thought? Most corrupt administration ever! Quote Americans Will Pay a High Price to Save Coal The Trump administration needs to show the math. By The Editors 12 June 3, 2018, 2:00 PM ED Dirty and expensive. Photographer: Ty Wright/Bloomberg An interesting question raised by President Donald Trump’s misguided order to prop up uneconomical coal and nuclear power plants in the name of national security is: How much is this going to cost? Not in climate terms, although here the indirect costs could be greatest in the long run. And not in terms of public health, although air pollution from a single coal plant causes hundreds of asthma attacks and dozens of premature deaths every year. Setting those crucial matters aside, what will it cost in dollars and cents spent on electricity in the U.S.? That's something the Trump administration has neglected to estimate. It should. U.S. coal plants have been closing fast — more than half of them since 2010 — because they have trouble competing with cheaper natural-gas power plants. Keeping these inefficient plants open is going to put utility customers out of pocket. Could the cost in pollution, premature deaths from particulate emissions, and higher utility bills conceivably be worth it? In his order Friday, Trump said plant closures threaten the nation’s energy mix and the “resilience” of the grid. This, in turn, threatens national security, in part because U.S. Defense Department installations are almost entirely dependent on the commercial power grid, according to an earlier administration memo obtained by Bloomberg News. Theoretically, the grid needs coal to ensure continuous energy in the event natural gas, hydro power, solar and wind can’t do the job. This not a real problem, however, as the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission more or less ruled several months ago when it turned down Energy Secretary Rick Perry’s last attempt to prop up coal by rewarding it for its “resilience.” Deregulated power markets in the U.S. already assure a dependable fuel supply by matching prices to demand. FERC might be asked to cooperate again in raising rates to implement this new plan; if so, it should refuse again. The chief beneficiaries of Trump’s plan would be coal-plant operators and their suppliers, a group that includes some of the president’s top supporters. The losses for everybody else — in higher emissions of carbon, additional premature deaths, and higher outlays on electricity — would be far greater. Dirty energy at higher cost: That’s some deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 2 hours ago, Tiberius said: Oh no, Trump would never price gouge the American people. Never! Who would have ever thought? Most corrupt administration ever! Lol, the cited source for that asthma stat takes you to "BeyondCoal.com" who cited it from the reputable journal of "EarthJustice.org" who pulled it out of their ass. Nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 BBO is appointed babysitter for TIbs this week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 5 minutes ago, BringBackOrton said: Lol, the cited source for that asthma stat takes you to "BeyondCoal.com" who cited it from the reputable journal of "EarthJustice.org" who pulled it out of their ass. Nice. Welcome to the wonderful world of gatorman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 5 minutes ago, DC Tom said: Welcome to the wonderful world of gatorman. It almost makes me wonder where "Mother Nature" falls in the intersectionality hierarchy. You know some !@#$ is going to make that case at some point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted June 4, 2018 Author Share Posted June 4, 2018 7 minutes ago, DC Tom said: Welcome to the wonderful world of gatorman. Actually, he sounds like he is from Tom World. Obfuscating to muddy the waters on the main point. You are fine with Trump doing this, and so is he. Eating out of the same toilet you are 2 minutes ago, TakeYouToTasker said: It almost makes me wonder where "Mother Nature" falls in the intersectionality hierarchy. You know some !@#$ is going to make that case at some point. I know where you fell from, right out of someone's ass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 Just now, Tiberius said: Actually, he sounds like he is from Tom World. Obfuscating to muddy the waters on the main point. You are fine with Trump doing this, and so is he. Eating out of the same toilet you are I read your article and independently vetted a claim that they made in the THIRD sentence. And found it to be bull ****. I'm sure you just took the whole thing on face value. Which is why it was important to demonstrate the dishonesty/ignorance of the author/authors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted June 4, 2018 Author Share Posted June 4, 2018 Just now, BringBackOrton said: I read your article and independently vetted a claim that they made in the THIRD sentence. And found it to be bull ****. I'm sure you just took the whole thing on face value. Which is why it was important to demonstrate the dishonesty/ignorance of the author/authors. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 6 hours ago, BringBackOrton said: Lol, the cited source for that asthma stat takes you to "BeyondCoal.com" who cited it from the reputable journal of "EarthJustice.org" who pulled it out of their ass. Nice. Does that count as 'peer review'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted June 4, 2018 Author Share Posted June 4, 2018 5 minutes ago, Koko78 said: Does that count as 'peer review'? No, but Trumps coal baron buddies can count on the extra cash we have to pay them for electricity 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 (edited) It's summer time and gas prices are going up. WOW, what a shock. But, of course, it's the President's fault that summer is here now. Here in the city, there hasn't been a time in my life when gas prices have ever went down in the summer. Edited June 4, 2018 by njbuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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