OldTimeAFLGuy Posted May 1, 2018 Posted May 1, 2018 25 minutes ago, Green Lightning said: I pray we have. Just nothing I've seen in his career or game tapes shows that we have. Maybe they can fix it -fix his footwork, fix his processing speed, fix why his QB rating dips by 50% when he's blitzed, and life will be dandy. I sure hope so. So to your point, I don't know if we have or not. I just think the other choice we had would have been better suited and had such a resume. I've seen a lot of QB projects come and go at One Bills Drive and to me this is another one. I really hope it works. ...ditto bro...why think otherwise...where does rehashing the past failures get us today, especially with a new top to bottom regime?.....
Wily Dog Posted May 2, 2018 Posted May 2, 2018 Murph andTasker had a poll on today that wanted to know when we should start Allen at QB. It ranged from start the first game to middle of the season to not this year. Some idiots said NEVER. They were 8% of the callers. That is what i talking about in a previous post on this subject. There are "fans" who want the Bills to fail. They revel over a players short comings or supposed failures. Psychologically . i presume you could have a ball with suppositions of their psychosis. I am not a learned Psychologist by any stretch so , i think they are people who sadly life has passed over and they want everybody to feel their pain. This is is my ammeter opinion.
Carter Posted May 2, 2018 Posted May 2, 2018 On 4/30/2018 at 4:23 AM, Niagara Dude said: Losers of draft by NFL.COM Buffalo Bills: The Bills traded out of their No. 10 overall pick a year ago, passing on the chance to draft Patrick Mahomes or Deshaun Watson in favor of amassing draft capital. This season, the Bills usedsignificant draft capital to trade up for quarterback Josh Allen (moving from 12th overall to seventh). The kids would call that hustling backward, especially when Allen has an uphill climb just to surpass previous Bills quarterback Tyrod Taylor's level of production. Bills fans will point to this being the first draft for GM Brandon Beane, who was hired last May, but that only emphasizes how tricky it is to come up with a cohesive roster when the GM and coach are always in flux. Allen could prove his skeptics wrong, and his athleticism is unquestionable, but Josh Rosen has clearly displayed a more obvious NFL skill set. Allen is reminiscent of a souped-up version of another Bills first-round quarterback: J.P. Losman, a player with accuracy issues who was a star in the pre-draft season because of his measurables. Losman was taken 22nd overall in the 2004 NFL Draft and proceeded to compile a 10-23 record in Buffalo.
Bobby Hooks Posted May 2, 2018 Posted May 2, 2018 (edited) It’s funny, most of the negativity seems to start in every thread from a poster passive aggressively bringing up how negative everyone’s being about the pick. Instigating the exact thing they’re so upset about. Most fans that were bummed initially (myself included) are trying to bring themselves around to it. And are waiting for training camp hoping we missed something. Why obsess over the minority? Edited May 2, 2018 by Bobby Hooks
PrimeTime101 Posted May 2, 2018 Author Posted May 2, 2018 6 hours ago, Fadingpain said: You're annoyed by negativity so you start a negative thread attacking 50% of the fan base. Cool. Most people here get where my frustration is coming from and it wasn't a negative threat it was posting my frustrations about posters here in forums. 22 Likes and 17 Thank you. If you don't get it that's not my problem and if you don't like it then don't read it
Lurker Posted May 2, 2018 Posted May 2, 2018 18 minutes ago, KD in CA said: For some people, all they have is their crusade. 2
theRalph Posted May 2, 2018 Posted May 2, 2018 5 hours ago, Nihilarian said: Most of the board wanted the Bills to trade up to the #2 spot to draft Rosen. That would have been disastrous.
Mr_Robotulism Posted May 2, 2018 Posted May 2, 2018 Snowflake thread. Allen is terrible- I don't have to root for him because someone made a mistake and he is taking a roster spot someone else could have.
Scorp83 Posted May 2, 2018 Posted May 2, 2018 On 4/30/2018 at 7:11 AM, PrimeTime101 said: So I get it. This was a tough draft for fans. 50% like Allen and the other 50% liked Rosen and you can twist those numbers to your liking.. I don't care that's not the point. What exactly happened to getting behind your team? Allen is a Buffalo Bill now, Like it or not.. So why not support the decision and hope for the best? What is with these people day after day with repeat threads of HATE towards the Bills organization as a whole or the GM? What is with everyone with there crystal balls KNOWING he will be an ALL PRO or a BUST? What is with comparing Allen with all our past failed QB's as if they were linked? As if this is the same GM "the same old Bills" making the "same old bad mistakes".. Come on here and complain about the pick after a year or two when we see how good or bad Allen actual is? can we actually just do that? I have been a Bills fan since my first game I want to back in 1979 and have stayed with them good or bad. I Laughed, gotten mad and even cried over the first SB loss. to many people on these boards have forgotten what being a sports fan really means. You back your team up good or bad, you back up the decisions GM and coaches makes until they screw it up. You shout! You Holler! You Swear! You Cry! You Laugh! You Clap! You complain about everything big or small but at the end you support the team! Go out there and support our team.. Support the Allen pick at least until you 100% Know he is bad.. then come on these boards and be negative. I support the Buffalo Bills Thank you for the read and I will accept what ever opinion you Have because its your right. Just don't forget the execution comes after the judgement What your asking is for everyone to be dumbfounded and be ok with something that they know is wrong. I think your reading into this completely wrong. I don't think people hate the Bills... I think people dislike the pick... everyone knows Allen is part of the Bills...you can't be upset cause everyone isn't jumping all in on this Kid & he hasn't proved we should. He has so many question marks... people aren't stupid...they're not going to ignore Allen issues just because our front office chooses to be naive 1
Hapless Bills Fan Posted May 2, 2018 Posted May 2, 2018 5 hours ago, ShadyBillsFan said: Wait ..... I’m getting confused. Are we complaining about the people complaining of the Bills players or just the Bills players and FO? ShadyBills, you just made my head hurt! Don't ask me, I'm all confusled myself. 2 minutes ago, Scorp83 said: What your asking is for everyone to be dumbfounded and be ok with something that they know is wrong. I think your reading into this completely wrong. I don't think people hate the Bills... I think people dislike the pick... everyone knows Allen is part of the Bills...you can't be upset cause everyone isn't jumping all in on this Kid & he hasn't proved we should. He has so many question marks... people aren't stupid...they're not going to ignore Allen issues just because our front office chooses to be naive To be fair, none of us - no one really - can know that the Allen pick is wrong. But it does seem to have aspects in common with other QB picks that have not gone well. It's great for a QB to have athleticism, leadership, sterling personal qualities, intelligence, work ethic - but fundamentally, if he can't read Ds quickly, make correct decisions, and throw the football accurately the rest is wasted. And there do seem to be some gaps there with Allen, that were not there with another choice. I'd feel a lot better about the pick if our GM and coach were talking more about the latter aspects of Allen's skillset and less about the former. 1
Carter Posted May 2, 2018 Posted May 2, 2018 We were so close at turning the franchise around, Aaron Rodgers close. Ben Rothlisburger close. Russell Wilson close. Damn!!
KD in CA Posted May 2, 2018 Posted May 2, 2018 Just imagine how much of a fit this board would have pitched if it was around in 1983....."they drafted the guy with wrecked shoulder....he won't last 3 years! Marino was still on the board!!!"
Lurker Posted May 2, 2018 Posted May 2, 2018 1 minute ago, KD in CA said: Just imagine how much of a fit this board would have pitched if it was around in 1983....."they drafted the guy with wrecked shoulder....he won't last 3 years! Marino was still on the board!!!" Actually, who's to say how Marino would have performed with the team the Bills had. He might have been pretty good, I think...
PrimeTime101 Posted May 2, 2018 Author Posted May 2, 2018 37 minutes ago, Scorp83 said: What your asking is for everyone to be dumbfounded and be ok with something that they know is wrong. I think your reading into this completely wrong. I don't think people hate the Bills... I think people dislike the pick... everyone knows Allen is part of the Bills...you can't be upset cause everyone isn't jumping all in on this Kid & he hasn't proved we should. He has so many question marks... people aren't stupid...they're not going to ignore Allen issues just because our front office chooses to be naive Scorp tell me. How do you know this was a bad pick. You cant see into the future. Just as many people that liked the pick hated it. But by all means, reach to your crystal ball and tell me what my lottery pick is going to be next week because getting QB's in the draft is a darn near crap shoot. Many put Allen at second best QB in draft. Does it mean he will pan out? nope. But it sure as heck doesn't mean that he is going to be garbage either. this was a 50/50 pick like I said. many loved it many hated it.
Lfod Posted May 2, 2018 Posted May 2, 2018 (edited) I guess it's safe to start talking good about Peterman again right guys? I think he will play ok when AJ inevitablly goes down next season. Edited May 2, 2018 by Lfod
PrimeTime101 Posted May 2, 2018 Author Posted May 2, 2018 5 minutes ago, Lfod said: I guess it's safe to start talking good about Peterman again right guys? I think he will play ok when AJ inevitablly goes down next season. lol
FistingBot Posted May 2, 2018 Posted May 2, 2018 Allen hasn't taken a single snap in a Bills uniform, yet the YouTube talent evaluators already "KNOW" he'll be terrible... because they read an article somewhere online that used a quasi-statistical argument to infer that Allen can't be possibly good... How many of the "experts" watched a single Wyoming football game over the past two years? *crickets chirp* 1
Scorp83 Posted May 2, 2018 Posted May 2, 2018 4 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: ShadyBills, you just made my head hurt! Don't ask me, I'm all confusled myself. To be fair, none of us - no one really - can know that the Allen pick is wrong. But it does seem to have aspects in common with other QB picks that have not gone well. It's great for a QB to have athleticism, leadership, sterling personal qualities, intelligence, work ethic - but fundamentally, if he can't read Ds quickly, make correct decisions, and throw the football accurately the rest is wasted. And there do seem to be some gaps there with Allen, that were not there with another choice. I'd feel a lot better about the pick if our GM and coach were talking more about the latter aspects of Allen's skillset and less about the former. Agreed. It would also help if we're knew what Brian Dabol is running... or if Allen game can be tailored to fit Dabol scheme 3 hours ago, October 1918 said: Allen hasn't taken a single snap in a Bills uniform, yet the YouTube talent evaluators already "KNOW" he'll be terrible... because they read an article somewhere online that used a quasi-statistical argument to infer that Allen can't be possibly good... How many of the "experts" watched a single Wyoming football game over the past two years? *crickets chirp* You must haven't seen any of my post pal lol. It's fine... I have seen his games... 6 to be exact. If you listen to WGR, they had a college QB text line... where the host sends you the games channel, timeline, ect on all 6 QB's. After abt 6 games of Allen, I had enough... the joke on that station is... pretty much I wasn't the only one texting back "Don't send me anymore Allen games" apparently everyone else did the same lol. Also to your argument... there's 2 sides here because I can blast the people watching YouTube highlights of Allen, that came away thinking he's a stud because they're watching big plays after big plays & think..."wow this kid is awesome...he hasn't threw an incomplete yet"
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