The Now Moment Posted April 29, 2018 Posted April 29, 2018 On 4/29/2018 at 12:56 PM, SoCal Deek said: I’m not sure what you ‘doubt’ in my post. While you’re correct that they’ll ultimately be judged on Allen, the immediate returns will be from Picks 2 and 3. This team has way too many holes to have swung and missed on those two while the #1 holds a clipboard. Expand If Allen misses, I think they are gone. If Allen hits, doesn't matter what the others do this year. They have a few years here. They will not get the axe because of a LB and DT.
JMF2006 Posted April 29, 2018 Posted April 29, 2018 On 4/29/2018 at 12:58 PM, Buffalo30 said: If Allen misses, I think they are gone. If Allen hits, doesn't matter what the others do this year. They have a few years here. They will not get the axe because of a LB and DT. Expand Well that pretty well takes them to year 4 of 5 in their contracts.
oldmanfan Posted April 29, 2018 Posted April 29, 2018 On 4/29/2018 at 12:58 PM, BuffaloRush said: Because many fans here have panned nearly every one his draft picks. Especially what he did in Round 1 Expand Because they're ignorant. No one knows how they'll turn out yet.
SoCal Deek Posted April 29, 2018 Posted April 29, 2018 On 4/29/2018 at 12:58 PM, Buffalo30 said: If Allen misses, I think they are gone. If Allen hits, doesn't matter what the others do this year. They have a few years here. They will not get the axe because of a LB and DT. Expand Thanks, but I wasn’t talking about them getting the axe. My point is you won’t have to wait three years for a glimpse at their evaluation. If Edmunds and Phillips are both major contributors, we’ll know it long before 2020.
respk Posted April 29, 2018 Posted April 29, 2018 Beane did exactly what I've wanted the Bills to do. That is to pick a franchise QB and get him no matter what it takes. Whether Allen becomes a franchise QB remains to be seen, but they took a chance and did something. I'm tired of watching the Bills sit back and wait for something to happen. If Allen doesn't work out then Beane and McDermott may be gone and rightfully so.
The Now Moment Posted April 29, 2018 Posted April 29, 2018 On 4/29/2018 at 1:00 PM, JMF2006 said: Well that pretty well takes them to year 4 of 5 in their contracts. Expand Which is around what teams usually give a new HC/GM duo. Unless we are talking about the Bills or Cleveland...oh wait On 4/29/2018 at 1:02 PM, SoCal Deek said: Thanks, but I wasn’t talking about them getting the axe. My point is you won’t have to wait three years for a glimpse at their evaluation. If Edmunds and Phillips are both major contributors, we’ll know it long before 2020. Expand Not necessarily. Jadaveon Clowney is a great example. People were screaming bust from the hilltops and in his 4th season with the team he arrived. Sometimes teams just need to be patient. The fans won't be but the front office must.
JMF2006 Posted April 29, 2018 Posted April 29, 2018 On 4/29/2018 at 1:03 PM, Buffalo30 said: Which is around what teams usually give a new HC/GM duo. Unless we are talking about the Bills or Cleveland...oh wait Expand Pegs already said he wanted young up and comers...check Pegs also said they had a long leash.
Epstein's Mother Posted April 29, 2018 Posted April 29, 2018 On 4/29/2018 at 12:52 PM, Bobby Hooks said: I was really sold that we found our GM, but I think he made a world class mistake. Expand Care to elaborate?
mannc Posted April 29, 2018 Posted April 29, 2018 On 4/29/2018 at 1:02 PM, SoCal Deek said: Thanks, but I wasn’t talking about them getting the axe. My point is you won’t have to wait three years for a glimpse at their evaluation. If Edmunds and Phillips are both major contributors, we’ll know it long before 2020. Expand I think Allen will see significant playing time this year. This is not like KC last year, where Alex Smith (a proven starter) was entrenched ahead of the rookie. Number one priority has to be to get Allen some weapons. And I’m surprised we did not draft a RB this year.
SoCal Deek Posted April 29, 2018 Posted April 29, 2018 This fan base is not in the patient mood. The offense has the chance to really bad. So, the two defensive draft picks had better contribute to the defense being really ‘promising’ or 2018 is going to be horrific.
Bobby Hooks Posted April 29, 2018 Posted April 29, 2018 On 4/29/2018 at 1:06 PM, Epstein's Mother said: Care to elaborate? Expand Sure. I think we’ll be in qb limbo for the next three years until we are forced to spend another draft pick for a new one. Up til the draft Beane was killing it, heck I really like the draft outside of the first pick. Could I be wrong? Sure. I just don’t think I am and I think that one move set us back three years.
TPS Posted April 29, 2018 Posted April 29, 2018 He's a genius. I'm still trying to figure out how he got the #1 pick for the Sabres this weekend too...
JMF2006 Posted April 29, 2018 Posted April 29, 2018 On 4/29/2018 at 1:07 PM, mannc said: I think Allen will see significant playing time this year. This is not like KC last year, where Alex Smith (a proven starter) was entrenched ahead of the rookie. Number one priority has to be to get Allen some weapons. And I’m surprised we did not draft a RB this year. Expand I really billieve its an open 3 way competition for the starting job. 1
SoCal Deek Posted April 29, 2018 Posted April 29, 2018 On 4/29/2018 at 1:07 PM, mannc said: I think Allen will see significant playing time this year. This is not like KC last year, where Alex Smith (a proven starter) was entrenched ahead of the rookie. Number one priority has to be to get Allen some weapons. And I’m surprised we did not draft a RB this year. Expand Well we’re all going to find out but somehow I think Allen won’t see the field in 2018. Darnold, Rosen and Mayfield all will, but not Allen. He’s going to be well served by watching and learning. The speed of the players is nothing like he saw at Wyoming.
Heavy Kevi Posted April 29, 2018 Posted April 29, 2018 On 4/29/2018 at 1:08 PM, SoCal Deek said: This fan base is not in the patient mood. The offense has the chance to really bad. So, the two defensive draft picks had better contribute to the defense being really ‘promising’ or 2018 is going to be horrific. Expand Well the fanbase doesn't get to make that decision. If it's up to me, AJM plays thks year. If he sucks, we get a nice early pick to get WR, OL, or RB help and focus on surrounding Allen. Fans can whine and cry all they want, Beane is going to do Beane. If he was going to fold to fan opinion, he would not have taken the lightning rod QB with a last minute mini-scandal. He's doing what he believes is best, irregardless of what we think.
mannc Posted April 29, 2018 Posted April 29, 2018 On 4/29/2018 at 1:11 PM, SoCal Deek said: The speed of the players is nothing like he saw at Wyoming. Expand True, but that didn’t stop Wentz. At least Allen played D-1.
BuckeyeBill Posted April 29, 2018 Posted April 29, 2018 He truly has both short term and long term in his mind. He prioritizes the QB properly and took a shot. Even if Allen busts, nobody can accuse Beane of not thinking the QB is important and nobody can accuse him of not willing to get his man.
Epstein's Mother Posted April 29, 2018 Posted April 29, 2018 On 4/29/2018 at 1:10 PM, Bobby Hooks said: Sure. I think we’ll be in qb limbo for the next three years until we are forced to spend another draft pick for a new one. Up til the draft Beane was killing it, heck I really like the draft outside of the first pick. Could I be wrong? Sure. I just don’t think I am and I think that one move set us back three years. Expand Thanks for adding that. Just like you I'm hoping that you are wrong.
Bobby Hooks Posted April 29, 2018 Posted April 29, 2018 On 4/29/2018 at 1:16 PM, Epstein's Mother said: Thanks for adding that. Just like you I'm hoping that you are wrong. Expand Me too.
BuffaloRush Posted April 29, 2018 Author Posted April 29, 2018 I am shocked the approval rating is so high. There have been many unhappy campers here the past few days
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