Paulus Posted May 4, 2018 Posted May 4, 2018 "Vision" and "game knowledge" is something I don't hear people talk about. Then again, Jimmy G and Goff really didn't need that, last year.
PIZ Posted May 4, 2018 Posted May 4, 2018 1. Decision making.... grew tired of watching receivers running free only to see a dump off. 2. Accuracy.... grew tired of seeing an open guy only to see the ball go over his head. 3. Leadership.... want a guy like Kelly or Brady that teams rally around, both on offense and defense. 1
Stanley Lombardi Posted May 4, 2018 Posted May 4, 2018 (edited) ...a 'W' sewn into his cerebral cortex. Edited May 4, 2018 by Blue on Blue
JMF2006 Posted May 4, 2018 Posted May 4, 2018 On 4/28/2018 at 6:54 PM, Rebel101 said: Arm strength, pocket awareness, timing, decision making, ability to run, accuracy, leadership, release speed? What is it you think is the most important qualities of a franchise QB? Must have the nickname "Cornfed" 1
Ublaw Posted May 4, 2018 Posted May 4, 2018 Decisiveness: quarterbacks who are tentative, because they are afraid to make mistakes, get shipped to Cleveland.
blacklabel Posted May 4, 2018 Posted May 4, 2018 Accuracy and ball placement, a quick release that doesn't allow defenders any time to read body cues and make a play on the ball, ability to read/react/adjust to what defenses are showing/doing, trusting your teammates and giving them a chance to make a play (something I feel Taylor didn't do enough of), confidence to attempt difficult throws, pocket movement and keeping your eyes up to see if a receiver comes open on a play where you have to improvise. Size, arm talent, big time stats, etc. that type of stuff, to me, is held in too high of a regard. Having the prototypical size is nice but I don't think it directly correlates with success. Arm talent is a bonus. And I read arm talent as more than just strength and the ability to put it on a rope. Arm talent involves the capability of knowing how much air to put under a deep pass, how much touch to use on a fade, knowing when you need to really zip it to a spot on the field, knowing how to throw guys open, etc. Mechanics and footwork, I feel, are also things that have too much emphasis placed on them. Peyton Manning never had the best looking footwork, he'd be tap dancin' in the pocket on most plays but his ungodly work ethic, preparation and knowledge more than made up for shoddy footwork. If I'm a coach or GM and my QB has a weird throwing motion on top of choppy/awkward dropbacks but he's able to pick apart defenses and hit his targets on time, etc. then I couldn't care less in how he looks in getting the job done. I care about the end result and if the end result is success and wins, have a funky throwing motion and dropback all you want.
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted May 4, 2018 Posted May 4, 2018 (edited) 23 hours ago, Gugny said: All of these. With regard to decision making, I'll specify: when to run, when to slide, when to get out of bounds and when to throw the ball away. Ah, the Gambler philosophy. 'Know when to hold 'em, know when to fold 'em, know when to walk away, know when to run.' What do I look for in QB? Strong like bull. Smart like refrigerator. Edited May 4, 2018 by Ridgewaycynic2013 Editing the merge
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted May 4, 2018 Posted May 4, 2018 (edited) The more I think about it the more I like this pick. Accuracy can be improved but what can't be improved is throwing the football in Buffalo weather conditions. I think Allen might be the perfect match for the crazy weather conditions in Buffalo and gives us a huge home field advantage. I bet Allen has close to the same success at home as Jim Kelly did. Edited May 4, 2018 by Call_Of_Ktulu
Bing Bong Posted May 4, 2018 Posted May 4, 2018 25 minutes ago, blacklabel said: giving them a chance to make a play (something I feel Taylor didn't do enough of), Did you see who he was throwing to? He would have been handing out interceptions every time he threw 50/50 to deonte Thompson matched up with Malcom butler. He gave Sammy chances to make a play. I'll just edit your statement I want a quarterback that trusts his trustworthy receivers. I'm not throwing jump balls to a PS WR.
blacklabel Posted May 4, 2018 Posted May 4, 2018 1 minute ago, PetermanThrew5Picks said: Did you see who he was throwing to? He would have been handing out interceptions every time he threw 50/50 to deonte Thompson matched up with Malcom butler. He gave Sammy chances to make a play. I'll just edit your statement I want a quarterback that trusts his trustworthy receivers. I'm not throwing jump balls to a PS WR. I didn't say Taylor needed to be throwing jump balls or 50/50 prayers. Far too many times he would wind up like he was ready to throw but then he'd pull it down and start running around. While he was exciting to watch on plays where he miraculously avoided pressure and a sack, there were an equal number of plays where he simply held onto the ball too long and wound up taking a sack. Those types of plays are where he needed to trust his receivers and at least give them a chance to make a play. You're never going to know if your guy can make something happen if you never give him the chance.
Bing Bong Posted May 4, 2018 Posted May 4, 2018 1 minute ago, blacklabel said: I didn't say Taylor needed to be throwing jump balls or 50/50 prayers. Far too many times he would wind up like he was ready to throw but then he'd pull it down and start running around. While he was exciting to watch on plays where he miraculously avoided pressure and a sack, there were an equal number of plays where he simply held onto the ball too long and wound up taking a sack. Those types of plays are where he needed to trust his receivers and at least give them a chance to make a play. You're never going to know if your guy can make something happen if you never give him the chance. I mean sure, good point. But you know he had to be trying this out in practice and watch Tre White embarrass him. Or he simply trusted his feet over throwing a difficult pass. He was never very accurate. Just saying if we had alshon Jeffrey maybe tyrod tosses it up when he's in trouble. Chances are Jeffrey catches it. Hopefully Josh allen trusts KB, and if he can't then he's in big trouble.
Bing Bong Posted May 4, 2018 Posted May 4, 2018 On 5/3/2018 at 9:40 AM, Gugny said: All of these. With regard to decision making, I'll specify: when to run, when to slide, when to get out of bounds and when to throw the ball away. Well cmon you're not saying you want a quarterback that has literally every tangible and intangible BUT decision making in his passes to receivers. Cause that qb would suck 16 hours ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: sure the TBD pundits say the WR corp sucks, but they were regularly INACTIVE on Sundays So the starting WR corps sucked
Gugny Posted May 4, 2018 Posted May 4, 2018 1 hour ago, PetermanThrew5Picks said: Well cmon you're not saying you want a quarterback that has literally every tangible and intangible BUT decision making in his passes to receivers. Cause that qb would suck So the starting WR corps sucked I'm struggling to see how you interpreted what I wrote this way.
jrober38 Posted May 4, 2018 Posted May 4, 2018 Accuracy and the ability to read the field and anticipate throws.
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