Virgil Posted April 28, 2018 Posted April 28, 2018 (edited) This honestly makes me feel better. I still don’t like giving up our 2nds in the trade up, but it means Mayfield and Darnold were never options. And, I trust Beane if he says Allen was better than Rosen. Edited April 28, 2018 by Virgil 4 2
Skins Malone Posted April 28, 2018 Posted April 28, 2018 (edited) Im not a fan of drafting RBs that high but its just my opinion. Reggie Bush was a phenomenon in college and had a lackluster career...i say this because all these experts never talk about the fact that RBs can be busts as well. Edited April 28, 2018 by Skins Malone 1
dave mcbride Posted April 28, 2018 Posted April 28, 2018 4 minutes ago, Virgil said: This honestly makes me feel better. I still don’t like giving up our 2nds in the trade up, but it means Mayfield and Darnold were never options. And, I trust Beane if he says Allen was better than Rosen. That's ridiculous by Gettleman. 2 1
Skins Malone Posted April 28, 2018 Posted April 28, 2018 1 minute ago, dave mcbride said: That's ridiculous by Gettleman. Idk about that. If the Giants really wanted Barkley all along why wouldnt they just draft him. Moving down isnt a proven key to success. Would i have listened..ABSOLUTELY. but im posting on a message board im not a GM. 2
YoloinOhio Posted April 28, 2018 Posted April 28, 2018 Just now, Skins Malone said: Idk about that. If the Giants really wanted Barkley all along why wouldnt they just draft him. Moving down isnt a proven key to success. Would i have listened..ABSOLUTELY. but im posting on a message board im not a GM. Yeah I think it’s more about giving it consideration. Need to look at all options not get stuck on only one possibility. If you decide you still want Barkley instead ,so be it. Especially with the QBs this year, the offers were going to be heavy. Im personally glad he didn’t because I think Beane would have given up a lot more to go to 2.
Skins Malone Posted April 28, 2018 Posted April 28, 2018 Just now, YoloinOhio said: Yeah I think it’s more about giving it consideration. Need to look at all options not get stuck on only one possibility. If you decide you still want Barkley instead ,so be it. Especially with the QBs this year, the offers were going to be heavy. I agree. At least should have been considered. But if thats your player you think can improve your team..just get him.
Happy Posted April 28, 2018 Posted April 28, 2018 I thought that if the Giants take a RB with the second pick, I'd consider firing Gettleman if I was the Mara's. I believe his days as GM are numbered; when they have no plan to succeed Eli and Barkley isn't making as much of a difference as they hoped he would, Gettleman should start to sweat. 1
Hapless Bills Fan Posted April 28, 2018 Posted April 28, 2018 11 minutes ago, Virgil said: This honestly makes me feel better. I still don’t like giving up our 2nds in the trade up, but it means Mayfield and Darnold were never options. And, I trust Beane if he says Allen was better than Rosen. I don't get why it's "embarrassing" or "arrogant". It's his pick! Once he knows that they player they want and have ranked that high is there, why should he listen to offers? If he already knows he's not gonna accept them, that's just wasting everyone's time. "No" is a complete sentence. Why do people have trouble with that thought? 4 1 1
GunnerBill Posted April 28, 2018 Posted April 28, 2018 I said as far back as January..... Gettleman was absolutely zeroed in on Saquon Barkley. I don't think he was ever interested in Darnold.... they let that be out there because they thought he would be gone #1 and they could say "we were never in a position to get him." They were going Barkley every single day of this process. 1
downunderbill Posted April 28, 2018 Posted April 28, 2018 I wonder if they were getting any offers with considering to them before the day. Is obvious Buffalo didn't want to give up 2 firsts and, along with the Cards had their eye on the same player.
NewEraBills Posted April 28, 2018 Posted April 28, 2018 Gettleman sorta hinted that he wouldn't be listening at the combine when he said you keep it simple and don't complicate things. I had a feeling then if Barkley was available he'd be taking him. The idea of them wanting Darnold was smoke.
ALF Posted April 28, 2018 Posted April 28, 2018 Browns not drafting Chubb at #4 was the odd pick to me . It made Denver keep #5 to take him instead of trading down to the Bills at a high cost.
downunderbill Posted April 28, 2018 Posted April 28, 2018 4 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: I don't get why it's "embarrassing" or "arrogant". It's his pick! Once he knows that they player they want and have ranked that high is there, why should he listen to offers? If he already knows he's not gonna accept them, that's just wasting everyone's time. "No" is a complete sentence. Why do people have trouble with that thought? Because some fans will never be happy.
NewEraBills Posted April 28, 2018 Posted April 28, 2018 6 minutes ago, Happy Gilmore said: I thought that if the Giants take a RB with the second pick, I'd consider firing Gettleman if I was the Mara's. I believe his days as GM are numbered; when they have no plan to succeed Eli and Barkley isn't making as much of a difference as they hoped he would, Gettleman should start to sweat. Man they still have Davis Webb that they drafted in the 3rd last year. If they think Eli has two years, build around him let the situation with Webb play out. I think Barkley is a great pick for them.
The Now Moment Posted April 28, 2018 Posted April 28, 2018 14 minutes ago, Skins Malone said: Im not a fan of drafting RBs that high but its just my opinion. Reggie Bush was a phenomenon in college and had a lackluster career...i say this because all these experts never talk about the fact that RBs can be busts as well. Only reason why I'd be hesitant about drafting the RB is if the offensive line is bad and well, the Giants don't exactly have a great one. I'm sure it'll still work out for them. They needed someone to take some weight off of Eli's shoulders. He's been playing with washed up or scrub running backs for a while now.
NoSaint Posted April 28, 2018 Posted April 28, 2018 (edited) 29 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Yeah I think it’s more about giving it consideration. Need to look at all options not get stuck on only one possibility. If you decide you still want Barkley instead ,so be it. Especially with the QBs this year, the offers were going to be heavy. Im personally glad he didn’t because I think Beane would have given up a lot more to go to 2. Id doubt he literally put fingers in his ears and refused to hear offers but sounds like it’d take a massive deal and if reports were true that we wouldn’t include the other first.... probably weren’t a ton of monster deals Edited April 28, 2018 by NoSaint
Skins Malone Posted April 28, 2018 Posted April 28, 2018 1 minute ago, Buffalo30 said: Only reason why I'd be hesitant about drafting the RB is if the offensive line is bad and well, the Giants don't exactly have a great one. I'm sure it'll still work out for them. They needed someone to take some weight off of Eli's shoulders. He's been playing with washed up or scrub running backs for a while now. Well said
BadLandsMeanie Posted April 28, 2018 Posted April 28, 2018 Im sorry. But this writer saying this is an example of why players didn't like Gettleman is just plain stupid.
Happy Posted April 28, 2018 Posted April 28, 2018 2 minutes ago, NewEraBills said: Man they still have Davis Webb that they drafted in the 3rd last year. If they think Eli has two years, build around him let the situation with Webb play out. I think Barkley is a great pick for them. They passed on Darnold, Allen, and Rosen. I'm thinking all are better than Webb (granted I have not seen Webb play) since a first round QB > 3rd round QB. And two years should be enough to develop a QB. Maybe things are going well with Webb, IDK, but I still think the Giants will regret this in about three years. 1
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