Epstein's Mother Posted April 28, 2018 Posted April 28, 2018 8 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: As "running Allen out of town"? Haven't seen it. Some folks don't like the pick - with Rosen on the board, I would strongly have preferred him, myself. Some folks think Allen is not likely to become a good NFL QB But not questioning the pick/doubting Allen seems a little different to me than "running him out of town" Now maybe that's going down somewhere - people have said the call-in lines of local radio stations are full of trashing Allen. In any case, I don't think the fans have the power to "run him out of town". The Bills will be paying him something like a $10M signing bonus on a $20M contract, he's not going anywhere for a few years. Good post. I would think anyone on this board who thinks their voice is heard at OBD is delusional. 1
Carter Posted April 28, 2018 Posted April 28, 2018 Bull **** report and fake news. Allen was not even top 5 on cardinals board. They projected him going in the 2nd. Pure BS. 1
Boatdrinks Posted April 28, 2018 Posted April 28, 2018 (edited) 13 minutes ago, SoTier said: In 3 or 4 years, we'll probably be about in the same place we were at this time in 2017, with a new HC and maybe a new GM. It has nothing to do with Buffalo GMs failing to make bold moves, especially when both Donahoe and Whaley made bold moves, and everything to do with the Bills organization's continuing lack of commitment to winning, but continue to tell yourself differently if it makes you feel better. There are bold moves that make no sense ( reaching for a JP Losman) or have no sense of purpose ( trading up for Watkins) . Regardless of who the GM is, there's a good chance they may not last beyond 4 years. Look at how many HCs and GMs change every offseason in the NFL. It's the nature of the league. The Bills staff may have chosen a different player at QB than you or I would have liked. This doesn't equate to a lack of commitment to winning though. They don't care what fans think of the pick. The Bills were going to take a QB early in this draft because they needed one. They did. Was that choice made in order to not win? Im going out on a huge limb here and saying no. Why else would they pick the players that they do? They pick them because they feel it's the best way to win games, which is what the NFL is all about. At least , if you want to keep your job for long. GMs and HCs get fired when they don't win, at least they did last time I checked. Edited April 28, 2018 by Boatdrinks
ganesh Posted April 28, 2018 Posted April 28, 2018 3 hours ago, Chuck Wagon said: I enjoyed how Kiper had Allen at #1 for most of the process, we get him at 7 and he gives us a bad grade. This!!!! ANd yet ESPN continues to pay for this dude!
Golden Goat Posted April 28, 2018 Posted April 28, 2018 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: In any case, I don't think the fans have the power to "run him out of town". Figure of speech. You took it literally. I meant it figuratively. I get that some people preferred Rosen, and I feel your pain that you didn't get the guy you wanted. I personally don't see it with Rosen, and think he will spend a lot of time on IR very early in his career. Time will tell. 7 minutes ago, Epstein's Mother said: Good post. I would think anyone on this board who thinks their voice is heard at OBD is delusional. Ever hear of a "figure of speech?" Or maybe you didn't bother reading what was actually written before kissing up to the mod? Edited April 28, 2018 by Golden Goat
aristocrat Posted April 28, 2018 Posted April 28, 2018 5 minutes ago, Carter said: Bull **** report and fake news. Allen was not even top 5 on cardinals board. They projected him going in the 2nd. Pure BS. Funny enough the cards is one of the team I have a friend and they did indeed want Allen over rosen and thought the bills were going rosen.
Carter Posted April 28, 2018 Posted April 28, 2018 1 minute ago, aristocrat said: Funny enough the cards is one of the team I have a friend and they did indeed want Allen over rosen and thought the bills were going rosen. Your friend is 100% wrong. Cards got their target.
Golden Goat Posted April 28, 2018 Posted April 28, 2018 1 minute ago, Carter said: Your friend is 100% wrong. Cards got their target. Based on?
aristocrat Posted April 28, 2018 Posted April 28, 2018 Just now, Carter said: Your friend is 100% wrong. Cards got their target. Nope. Guaranteed. 1
Carter Posted April 28, 2018 Posted April 28, 2018 Just now, aristocrat said: Nope. Guaranteed. The picture of the cards war room showed who they coveted at qb. Allen wasn’t even listed.
Hapless Bills Fan Posted April 28, 2018 Posted April 28, 2018 15 minutes ago, Golden Goat said: Figure of speech. You took it literally. I meant it figuratively. You asked if I'd read the board. Not figurative action. 15 minutes ago, Golden Goat said: Ever hear of a "figure of speech?" Or maybe you didn't bother reading what was actually written before kissing up to the mod? This seems like gratuitous insult. Since I'm involved I don't want to moderate, but this isn't how we encourage football to be discussed here.
Golden Goat Posted April 28, 2018 Posted April 28, 2018 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: You asked if I'd read the board. Not figurative action. This seems like gratuitous insult. Since I'm involved I don't want to moderate, but this isn't how we encourage football to be discussed here. Actually, all you do is deflect. Reread my original quote that you jumped on and tell me where I said what you said I said. That's what a more seasoned mod would do. Actually, a more seasoned mod wouldn't be this combative in the first place. I don't have confidence in your longevity. Edited April 28, 2018 by Golden Goat
Hapless Bills Fan Posted April 28, 2018 Posted April 28, 2018 6 minutes ago, Golden Goat said: Actually, all you do is deflect. Reread my original quote that you jumped on and tell me where I said what you said I said. LOL I think you mis-spelled "responded to politely", but surely. Here you go: 6 minutes ago, Golden Goat said: That's what a more seasoned mod would do. Actually, a more seasoned mod wouldn't be this combative in the first place. I don't have confidence in your longevity. Nice. My style on this board have been well established for years and were well known to the moderators when I was invited, but if they want to un-mod me and spare me the work, oh woe.
Golden Goat Posted April 29, 2018 Posted April 29, 2018 4 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: LOL I think you mis-spelled "responded to politely", but surely. Here you go: Nice. My style on this board have been well established for years and were well known to the moderators when I was invited, but if they want to un-mod me and spare me the work, oh woe. What do you think you've just proven here? Geez, you really DO need this spelled out for you. My quote: "Let's see what he can do with a strong supporting cast before running him out of town?" Your quote: "Do you really see anyone "running him out of town?" After suggesting that there was a lot of negativity toward him in other posts, I pointed out that I was being figurative with "run out of town" and that you, incorrectly, took it literally. I'm still not convinced you know what that means. Point is, even after I clarified myself, you tried to tell me what I meant. It sure seems that is how you, sir, "encourage football to be discussed here." It's a bad look, especially for a mod.
Real McClappy Posted April 29, 2018 Posted April 29, 2018 Anyone figure out a timestamp for this 4+hr vid?
BillsFan4 Posted April 29, 2018 Posted April 29, 2018 Just now, Carter said: Bull **** report and fake news. Allen was not even top 5 on cardinals board. They projected him going in the 2nd. Pure BS.
Agent 91 Posted April 29, 2018 Posted April 29, 2018 7 hours ago, Golden Goat said: Surely you've read some of the other posts? Call me crazy, but wide receivers with NFL experience > no-name freshmen and sophomore receivers in a bad college program. So you are good with the o line and we corp as is? You think we have a real offense right now
PIZ Posted April 29, 2018 Posted April 29, 2018 5 hours ago, aristocrat said: Funny enough the cards is one of the team I have a friend and they did indeed want Allen over rosen and thought the bills were going rosen. Friend who is an Arizona fan or friend that is a member of the team?
BuffaloBillsGospel Posted April 29, 2018 Posted April 29, 2018 23 hours ago, LeGOATski said: A guy who can't do it right is going to fail in the NFL. So many guys with plus arm strength have made those types of throws in college, but if they don't have any pocket awareness in the NFL, then they won't last. This is one of those many things that Josh Allen can improve on at the next level. We all hope he does. F that, tell that to Brett Favre, the guy did it his way, a true gunslinger and now a HOF player. I believe all the great QB's believe they want to be the best to ever play and the game is never too big for them. Favre starting out had a rough 2 starting years in Green Bay, then the light bulb clicked for him, the same could easily happen to Allen and to see these videos of him time after time being told he was too short, not getting any college offers, all those no's and he could have easily given up, finally a shot with Wyoming and the rest is history. There is no reason to believe that he can't be one of the best QB's in the league, he has the arm, he has the athleticism, get the mechanics down and the sky's the limit imo.
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