WGR Hosts Scared Of On-Air Confrontation

[billsfanmiami(oh)]

1 hour ago, Elite Poster said:

You guys are such haters. They are not bad at all. I brought this up in a previous thread. I've lived in Ohio, Indiana, and North Carolina. Our guys in Buffalo blow these guys out of the water.

 

They are all allowed to have opinions, they are fans like we are. If you guys want Bills yes men, just listen to John Murphy only. Even if I disagree, I like to hear why they think what they do; they are very good at backing up their opinions. Other cities DO NOT have hosts like this.

 

Whatever Mike. How’s the value on my Kirk Gibson rookie card this week? You have the latest Beckett? 

[JMF2006]

2 hours ago, BuffaloRush said:

Like most of you I have been listening to nearly all of WGR's coverage on the Bills draft.  It's been interesting hearing how strongly different personalities have expressed their views, but they seem to very timid to confront each other on-air.  In fact, I can't really remember a time when there was an argument on-air at WGR like I can with other sports talk show.  

 

Case and point - all morning Jeremy White was whinging that the Bills overspent to trade up for Allen citing the "draft charts" as evidence.  Later that morning, they bring Sal Capaccio on and Howard asked him point blank "did the Bills overspend," to which Sal emphatically responds "oh no" and then proceeds to respond why.  Not one challenge from Howard or Jeremy.  Then of course, after Sal hangs up, in a very condecending way Jeremy uses to Jimmy Johnson value chart explicitly say how the Bills overspent.  Why didn't he just disagree with Sal?

http://www.wgr550.com/media/audio-channel/04-27-howard-and-jeremy-show-hr-2

 

On an unrelated note -  if you listen to hour 1, it's essentially Howard and Jeremy complaining about Josh Allen.  When a fan on Twitter told Howard to "say it to his face," he went on a 5 minute rant trying to walk back his comments.  Surprisingly, when Allen does an interview with Howard and Jeremy they act very nice and lob some softball questions.

http://www.wgr550.com/media/audio-channel/04-27-newest-bills-qb-josh-allen-howard-and-jeremy

 

 

Later that afternoon, it's Schopp and the Bulldog.  Mike Schopp also rants about how he hated the Allen pick, why the Bills make dumb decisions, and again how they paid too much to trade up.  Bulldog (who seems scared to disagree with Schopp on anything) argues that the Bills "spent like a drunken sailer."  Mike then rants about the comments on Twitter and how that situations makes him not want to pull for Allen.

 

Wouldn't you know it...Sal comes on the air.  Again he talks about how he didn't think so.  Then the whole Twitter story comes out.  Sal does an excellent job explaining the situation and passionately shares why the tweets he made at 16 are not indicative of who he currently . Again, no response from Mike who previously said he didn't want to route for Allen because of the tweets.  

http://www.wgr550.com/media/audio-channel/4-27-schopp-and-bulldog-hour-2

 

My thing is - if you are an on-air personality and you disagree with someone don't sit there and say "OK"

 

 

I heard the Schoop crap at 3pm on my drive home.......I turned it off.

 

That idiot wanted a trade up for QB since the season ended and after its done he cries why?

 

I am done with that station and will listen to my classic rock on future drives

[The Rev.Mattb74 ESQ.]

4 minutes ago, The Red King said:

I lost faith and interest in WGR when the Bills made the playoffs for the first time this decade.  One of them, think it was Bulldog, then actually went on a rant because this season cost us draft positioning.  I...was in shock after that and have felt no compulsion to tune back in since then.

Jeremy White comes across like he truly feels he is better then everyone who is listening. Howard Simon I think has been beaten down by two decades of talking about losing teams. Schopp, used to be amazing to listen to when he did the sports talk for smart people. I would even listen to his hobby show, and I do not even collect cards. Maybe they should bring Brinson back to lighten everyone up a little. Or just get satellite radio and listen to the NFL channel.

[Domdab99]

I'm glad I don't live in the Buffalo area just because I won't accidentally stumble upon any WGR sports radio crap. 

 

When I think of people who listen to sports radio - the nadir of the entertainment/media world (yes, it's below granny porn) - I invariable compare them to the Patton Oswalt character in the movie Big Fan. 

 

 

And that's not a good thing. 

[JMF2006]

12 minutes ago, The Red King said:

I lost faith and interest in WGR when the Bills made the playoffs for the first time this decade.  One of them, think it was Bulldog, then actually went on a rant because this season cost us draft positioning.  I...was in shock after that and have felt no compulsion to tune back in since then.

 

Yup never happy.

[metzelaars_lives]

2 hours ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said:

Every single person on WGR is terrible. The two morning show guys are probably in the running for worst in the country. I’m not sure either one of them have ever seen a sporting event.

I’m not sure you have ever listened to a sports talk radio station outside of Buffalo.

[zevo]

52 minutes ago, billsfanmiami(oh) said:

 

Whatever Mike. How’s the value on my Kirk Gibson rookie card this week? You have the latest Beckett? 

Lmao

[Big Blitz]

Done with the afternoon show completely until Schoop is fired.  He needs to go.  He was an embarrassment today.  

 

Jeremy White has been decimated by the Trump era.  Now he's considering starting a podcast for all things non sports (politics basically.) 

 

Buffalo deserves a better morning and afternoon show.  

 

I've become only a listener to the segments featuring Sal on demand.  That's it.  WGR is an absolute mess. 

 

Listen to Chad Dukes here in DC for a week and you'll see how awful you have it in Buffalo with the talk radio.  And the Sports Junkies in the am---been tuning in to them over the WGR am show for several years now.  

 

First place I go to for Bills commentary now is this board.  

Edited April 28, 2018 by Big Blitz

[Elite Poster]

11 hours ago, BuffaloRush said:

 

Disagree with you on Sal.  He’s probably the most enjoyable personality to listen to.  Actually I like them all except Schoop and Bulldog (woof)

 

Sal says nothing every single day. I'll give an example of a Sal opinion: I really like this kid, he could be great, but he could also bust. 

 

He ain't wrong, but he didn't really say ****. That's what Sal does every day. I love when he gets scoops on info but when it comes to forming solid opinions, he rarely does.

Edited April 28, 2018 by Elite Poster

[Fadingpain]

2 minutes ago, Elite Poster said:

 

Sal says nothing every single day. I'll give an example of a Sal opinion: I really like this kid, he could be great, but he could also bust. 

 

He ain't wrong, but he didn't really say ****. That's what Sal does every day. I love when he gets really scoops on info but when it comes to forming solid opinions, he rarely does.

Sal can talk for 10 minutes while saying nothing.  He's utterly unremarkable to listen to.

 

What sort of scoops do you recall him ever getting?  He has provided no inside information ever, as far as I can recall.

 

His opinions relying on judgment are frequently wrong too.  He does fill time slots on the radio though, which is basically his job.

 

 

 

 

[jamiezzz]

Best advice, stop listening to WGR.  Unfortunately, for some, it’s the only way to have access to the bills!  I stopped listening a while ago.  For the most part, it is painful to listen to that station.  I wish they would make changes and upgrade the personnel on that  station.

[Elite Poster]

1 hour ago, Fadingpain said:

Sal can talk for 10 minutes while saying nothing.  He's utterly unremarkable to listen to.

 

What sort of scoops do you recall him ever getting?  He has provided no inside information ever, as far as I can recall.

 

His opinions relying on judgment are frequently wrong too.  He does fill time slots on the radio though, which is basically his job.

 

 

 

 

 

There have been a few free agent signings he's been first to report. Also, the front office seems to like him so he got good interviews with Sean during the season. Today at least, he asked Sean where Edmunds would be playing and Sean elaborated on that. Nice info.

4 hours ago, PastaJoe said:

1. Their issue isn’t with Allen per se, but with the people who traded up to pick him. So when Allen was interviewed, they weren’t going to take it up with him. Like it wasn’t CJ Spiller’s fault when he was drafted when they didn’t need a RB. I’m glad that they did question him on his racial comments that were revealed. Schopp is sensitive to the issue given his adopted black children. If Beane was on, they’d question why not Rosen, or Watson or Mahones last year instead; more NFL ready QBs. Or how the big hands in bad weather argument doesn’t pan out if you look at the actual weather most Bills games have had.

 

2. Sal is always reluctant to criticize the Bills since he’s the sideline reporter and has to interact with the team. The hosts respectfully disagree with some of his views when he’s on, but they realize he’s never going to outright say the Bills are wrong, so why push it. And Sal does acknowledge that he understands that many fans disagree with the pick.

 

3. They get some wacky callers who think the Bills can do no wrong, when history shows otherwise. The argument that the scouts know more than the hosts so they should shut up, while the record shows the Bills have had some terrible draft results.

 

This guy nailed it.

[BuffaloRush]

3 hours ago, Elite Poster said:

 

Sal says nothing every single day. I'll give an example of a Sal opinion: I really like this kid, he could be great, but he could also bust. 

 

He ain't wrong, but he didn't really say ****. That's what Sal does every day. I love when he gets really scoops on info but when it comes to forming solid opinions, he rarely does.

 

6 hours ago, PastaJoe said:

1. Their issue isn’t with Allen per se, but with the people who traded up to pick him. So when Allen was interviewed, they weren’t going to take it up with him. Like it wasn’t CJ Spiller’s fault when he was drafted when they didn’t need a RB. I’m glad that they did question him on his racial comments that were revealed. Schopp is sensitive to the issue given his adopted black children. If Beane was on, they’d question why not Rosen, or Watson or Mahones last year instead; more NFL ready QBs. Or how the big hands in bad weather argument doesn’t pan out if you look at the actual weather most Bills games have had.

 

2. Sal is always reluctant to criticize the Bills since he’s the sideline reporter and has to interact with the team. The hosts respectfully disagree with some of his views when he’s on, but they realize he’s never going to outright say the Bills are wrong, so why push it. And Sal does acknowledge that he understands that many fans disagree with the pick.

 

3. They get some wacky callers who think the Bills can do no wrong, when history shows otherwise. The argument that the scouts know more than the hosts so they should shut up, while the record shows the Bills have had some terrible draft results.

 

1. Right but why didn’t they ask him tough questions - there’s plenty to ask him about.  If Jerry Sullivan was interviewing Allen, like him or not, I think the line of questioning would have gone a little differently.

 

2. I get what you are saying about Sal’s conflict of interest.  I have heard him criticize the team before, so it’s not like he’s a Chris Brown.  There’s nothing stopping any host from challenging Sal.  They simply won’t because they cowards.  If I spent day on-air every saying “Donald Trump sucks as President,” and then you come on stand say “Trump is a great President” and all I say “OK,” it makes me look like a coward for not challenging.

 

3. You are right about the fans that call in.  Their blind loyalty is absolutely annoying.  Now Schopp or Jeremy have no problem challenging fans - they are just a little scared to challenge colleagues or guests.  Bulldog is too scared to challenge his own co-host!

 

[OCinBuffalo]

8 hours ago, Seanbillsfan2206 said:

It’s “whining”. If you’re going to keep using that word at least spell it right

Nope. https://www.thefreedictionary.com/whinging

 

It can be whinging or whining. 

[Seanbillsfan2206]

20 minutes ago, OCinBuffalo said:

Nope. https://www.thefreedictionary.com/whinging

 

It can be whinging or whining. 

Well I stand corrected 

[GunnerBill]

There was that brilliant one between Sal and Schopp last offseason on the Browns "tanking".  I think Schopp won the argument actually (even though I agree with Sal) but they had a really worthwhile and frank argument to the point where Schopp said at the end "Sal, are we ok?" It was excellent radio, neither guy was taking it personally and it gave both sides of a debate a real crack. 

 

They should do it more, it is entertaining... but don't fake it or force it.... just don't back away from airing those differences when they exist.

Edited April 28, 2018 by GunnerBill

[racketmaster]

Cliff Notes:

Jeremy White: Used to really enjoy his takes. Over time he has become a little more arrogant and elitist (he gives off the vibe that anyone who disagrees with his thinking is a moron). The snark and politics have become too prevalent.

 

Howard Simon: Years ago he was much better. The many years of our teams losing have made him much more negative and he tends to just agree with Jeremy on every topic. I liked the debate court he and Jeremy used to have when they actually took different sides on an issue. 

 

Bulldog: Don’t mind him too much. I wish he would be stronger with his takes when they are opposed to Mike’s. He is pretty reasonable but too often takes a back seat to whatever Mike wants to talk about.

 

Mike Schopp: I disagree with many of his takes but he can be interesting to listen to. He has gone a little too far with analytics should make every decision and the no momentum in sports rants. Actually improved from a few years back when he would almost brag on radio about not being a fan of the Bills. That is until today when he got so upset that he seemed like he was going to root against the Bills for the Allen pick. 

 

Murphy/Tasker: they get a bunch of good guests and Tasker is a little better than I thought he would be. I thought Ruben might have been a good replacement for Donald. Murphy tends to be a homer but that is his role and don’t mind it too much because most all the other shows are so negative. 

 

Sal: He is pretty good. I think Joe B was better but Sal is generally a voice of reason. 

 

Ryan: don’t listen to that often but he seems funny and can be entertaining. 

Edited April 28, 2018 by racketmaster

[Davejr511]

Is there any other station that talks about the Buffalo Bills? I live near NYC so all they talk about is Jets & Giants. I would love to never have to listen to Howard, Jeremy, Schopp & Bulldog again. 

 

Yesterday was really hard to listen to. It was nothing but Josh Allen bashing non stop. I understand that they may not like the kid but damn. You had H&J crying that we mortgage the future by trading up to pick Allen, but yet If the pick was Rosen would they have had the same opinion? 

 

I tweeted how Schopp & The Bulldog was an entire show of nothing but Allen bashing and Bulldog tweets me back the "I wasnt listening correctly and he was saying the exact opposite". I had to contain myself from laughing out hysterically.

 

I like Sal Capaccio, he atleast feel like he's more in touch with the sport of football and the Buffalo Bills. I also like Nate Geary. Wouldnt mind WGR giving these guy their own show to replace those other idiots. 

[racketmaster]

2 minutes ago, Davejr511 said:

Is there any other station that talks about the Buffalo Bills? I live near NYC so all they talk about is Jets & Giants. I would love to never have to listen to Howard, Jeremy, Schopp & Bulldog again. 

 

Yesterday was really hard to listen to. It was nothing but Josh Allen bashing non stop. I understand that they may not like the kid but damn. You had H&J crying that we mortgage the future by trading up to pick Allen, but yet If the pick was Rosen would they have had the same opinion? 

 

I tweeted how Schopp & The Bulldog was an entire show of nothing but Allen bashing and Bulldog tweets me back the "I wasnt listening correctly and he was saying the exact opposite". I had to contain myself from laughing out hysterically.

 

I like Sal Capaccio, he atleast feel like he's more in touch with the sport of football and the Buffalo Bills. I also like Nate Geary. Wouldnt mind WGR giving these guy their own show to replace those other idiots. 

Bulldog was not having a tantrum like the other 3 main hosts. The problem with Bulldog is he let’s Mike take over the show and his differing viewpoint is drowned out. 

[The_Dude]

I live in Atlanta, I’ve lived in Nashville, I’ve lived in Louisiana, I’ve lived in Houston....out of all those places I’d rank WGR as having the BEST sports radio. 

 

Most of the time when I read somebody B word about something they heard on WGR they’re taking what was said out of context or they’re just too stupid to understand what they heard so they state the host concluded something that they in fact did not. 

 

Sometimes Mile Schoop can be a bit of a prick. But I’d say that 80% of fans who call the show are stupid. That’s why they’re calling the show — they’re so stupid that they don’t understand what they’re abput to say on the radio is stupid. And Schoop can be a bit of a prick. 

 

A sports analysts job is not to be an echo chamber — it’s to give their opinions and I think WGR does a great job and I’ve listened to a lot of local sports shows across the country.