Magox Posted April 27, 2018 Posted April 27, 2018 1 minute ago, bobobonators said: Looks real to me. He looks frail as &@#%!
Prickly Pete Posted April 27, 2018 Posted April 27, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Klaista2k said: Rosen was talked about as probably the best pure pocket quarterback in the draft. He was available for the Bills to grab but they passed. Any options on why exactly we didn't like him? -Injury concerns? -Attitude? -Concerns about playing in the cold weather? -Was he just overrated in general? Thoughts? They seemed to do due diligence in scouting him. No one here knows what the interviews were like. For all we know, Rosen may have appeared uninterested in playing for the Bills. There was no shortage of writers saying Rosen might fall in the draft. Edited April 27, 2018 by OJABBA
bobobonators Posted April 27, 2018 Posted April 27, 2018 2 minutes ago, Magox said: He looks frail as &@#%! He needs to put on some weight. And im sure he will. He’ll die in the NFL otherwise. He has to face Suh and Darnold 2x a year.
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted April 27, 2018 Posted April 27, 2018 (edited) Too JAPy Edited April 27, 2018 by Over 29 years of fanhood
Thurman#1 Posted April 27, 2018 Posted April 27, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Thurman#1 said: Carson Palmer and Aaron Rodgers are from California, aren't they? 1 hour ago, Jauronimo said: Actually, no, they are not. That is a common yet enduring myth. Rogers is from Ohio and Carson is also from Ohio. 1 hour ago, Thurman#1 said: Could you please shoot me your sources on this? Way I see it, both were born in Cali and played their high school and college ball there and Palmer spent nearly all his life in Cali before being drafted. Looks like Rodgers spent a while in Oregon but was mostly in Cali. 58 minutes ago, Jauronimo said: https://www.50states.com/bio/ohio.htm suck it! So, a list of famous Ohioans without any mention of either Aaron Rodgers or Carson Palmer proves me wrong?That's where this link sends me. Wow. That's a pretty low standard of proof. I'm not an expert on either guy. So I googled "biography" and the names Aaron Rodgers and Carson Palmer. I did this before I posted last time. And I found three or four quick sources on each guy, none of which had any mention of Ohio and all of which said both guys were born in California and played their high school and college ball there. https://marriedbiography.com/carson-palmer-biography/ https://www.jockbio.com/Bios/CPalmer/CPalmer_bio.html https://playerswiki.com/carson-palmer https://www.biography.com/people/aaron-rodgers-20954015 https://www.britannica.com/biography/Aaron-Rodgers https://www.thefamouspeople.com/profiles/aaron-rodgers-12058.php http://www.jockbio.com/Bios/A_Rodgers/A_Rodgers_bio.html Again, I'm no expert on the personal life of either guy, but everything I can find says you're wrong. So again, got any links that actually show that disproves any of this? Seems each was born in Cali and played their high school and college ball there. Honestly, I am willing to learn. Edited April 27, 2018 by Thurman#1
bobobonators Posted April 27, 2018 Posted April 27, 2018 7 minutes ago, Magox said: He looks frail as &@#%! He has the build of a 15yr old. And im not even exaggerating.
Jauronimo Posted April 27, 2018 Posted April 27, 2018 Just now, Thurman#1 said: So, a list of famous Ohioans without any mention of either Aaron Rodgers or Carson Palmer proves me wrong?That's where this link sends me. Wow. That's a pretty low standard of proof. I'm not an expert on either guy. So I googled "biography" and the names Aaron Rodgers and Carson Palmer. I did this before I posted last time. And I found three or four quick sources on each guy, none of which had any mention of Ohio and all of which said both guys were born in California and played their high school and college ball there. https://marriedbiography.com/carson-palmer-biography/ https://www.jockbio.com/Bios/CPalmer/CPalmer_bio.html https://playerswiki.com/carson-palmer https://www.biography.com/people/aaron-rodgers-20954015 https://www.britannica.com/biography/Aaron-Rodgers https://www.thefamouspeople.com/profiles/aaron-rodgers-12058.php http://www.jockbio.com/Bios/A_Rodgers/A_Rodgers_bio.html Again, I'm no expert, but everything I can find says you're wrong. So again, got any links that actually show that disproves any of this? Seems each was born in Cali and played their high school and college ball there. Honestly, I am willing to learn. #FakeNews You can't blindly believe everything that you read. Especially a website dedicated to bisexual athletes and a British encyclopedia. The Brits still think football is played with no hands.
Thurman#1 Posted April 27, 2018 Posted April 27, 2018 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Jauronimo said: #FakeNews You can't blindly believe everything that you read. Especially a website dedicated to bisexual athletes and a British encyclopedia. The Brits still think football is played with no hands. Oh, you're a troll. No link, no proof and you're right. Got it. Hadn't realized. Silly me for taking you seriously. Edited April 27, 2018 by Thurman#1
Kaenon Posted April 27, 2018 Posted April 27, 2018 2 hours ago, Klaista2k said: Rosen was talked about as probably the best pure pocket quarterback in the draft. He was available for the Bills to grab but they passed. Any options on why exactly we didn't like him? -Injury concerns? -Attitude? -Concerns about playing in the cold weather? -Was he just overrated in general? Thoughts? Injury concerns likely played a factor. Attitude likely did not play a factor. Cold weather concerns, doubtful. Overrated? No, he is closest to pro ready as a pure pocket passer. 2 concussions last year plus shoulder injury a couple of years ago likely played a factor, but more important - Allen was viewed as the best, can't pass up prospect.
Bing Bong Posted April 27, 2018 Posted April 27, 2018 (edited) I think they don't want to invest in the O line. Sounds like rosen would be great with an o line and can compensate with okay WRs. While Allen has great pocket presence and is more elusive and dependent on a stud WR or 2. If you really want to beef up yourbO line, things get expensive. I still really wanted Rosen tho Edited April 27, 2018 by PetermanThrew5Picks
racketmaster Posted April 27, 2018 Posted April 27, 2018 3 hours ago, Klaista2k said: Rosen was talked about as probably the best pure pocket quarterback in the draft. He was available for the Bills to grab but they passed. Any options on why exactly we didn't like him? -Injury concerns? -Attitude? -Concerns about playing in the cold weather? -Was he just overrated in general? Thoughts? Probably a combination of all those things. I would add Rosen’s lack of mobility hurt him some as well. Plus, this regime may have just liked the long term upside of Allen better.
NewEraBills Posted April 27, 2018 Posted April 27, 2018 I said it a couple of weeks ago that Mayfield and Rosen were not their guys. They didn't fit the culture that they built and continue to build here. As much as I wanted Rosen, I just knew they were not going to take him. Still made me mad, but it's the choice that was made. The only thing I can hope is that the Cam Newton plan from Carolina works out for Allen and that the coaching and game plans are so superb that his present weaknesses are hidden enough for him to be successful. I don't believe they will rush him but OTAs and TC will give us a better picture. Given his competition, I can see him starting by week 8 or 9.
Troll Toll Posted April 27, 2018 Posted April 27, 2018 I think both are likely busts. Rosen’s ability is vastly overrated. Trading up to 2 for Darnold was the move if it was true that they had the ammo to do it. If the Bills kept their 2nds I’d feel okay even though I have my doubts about Allen. I don’t like that every one acknowledges he is a project, yet our Oline is in shambles, our receivers are bottom tier, our offensive coaches are unproven at best (awful at worst), and our only stud Shady is in his last year or so. They just put Allen in an impossible situation. I love the LB they got, but that doesn’t help Allen.
dpberr Posted April 27, 2018 Posted April 27, 2018 Attitude. Rosen is no fighter and he's soft. The arrogance is a facade for that mental softness. Rick kid, born into wealth, playing football in posh Los Angeles. It's about as un-process as it gets. I don't like the Allen pick but he himself is a grinder. Had to work hard to even get to play for Wyoming. Middle class upbringing. There's mental toughness and work ethic there and willingness to do what it takes.
BuffaninATL Posted April 27, 2018 Posted April 27, 2018 3 hours ago, TheFunPolice said: he's scrawny and miserable with a very punchable face. I just realized that today after seeing his goofy mug in a photo which revealed all his handsome features.
Dr. Who Posted April 27, 2018 Posted April 27, 2018 As others have suggested, durability was likely the most significant concern with Rosen, but the OP implicitly presupposes that choosing Allen was more a function of not choosing Rosen. Perhaps Beane actually thinks Allen will end up being the better qb or at least the better fit for Buffalo. 1
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