Hapless Bills Fan Posted April 27, 2018 Posted April 27, 2018 4 minutes ago, CajunBillsBacker said: Probably the same reason everyone else was passing on Rosen. I’m hearing the Cardinals were trying to get up to get Allen over Rosen also. For values of "everyone" equal to 2 teams needing QB?
SCBills Posted April 27, 2018 Posted April 27, 2018 (edited) Not just Buffalo.. Every team that drafted a Big 4 QB liked other QB's more than him. Arizona, who drafted him, tried to outbid us for Allen, before settling on Rosen at 10. Personally, I feel he has a lot of Sam Bradford in him. A guy who could be a gifted passer but you better keep him upright because he's not very mobile and is very injury prone. Edited April 27, 2018 by SCBills 1
13player Posted April 27, 2018 Posted April 27, 2018 Just now, Hapless Bills Fan said: I honestly don't know. For whatever reason, they obviously 1) had Allen rated above him on their board, and 2) had Allen rated highly enough to be worth trading to #7 So all we can do now is hope Allen is able to do what he says, and make the Bills "look smart" for believing in him. 4 reasons, 2 concussions 1 bum shoulder 1 arrogant SOB with Ryan Leaf Syndrome Even if Allen's a bust and Rosen is great, he is 1 concussion away from the end of the line! 2
billsfan1959 Posted April 27, 2018 Posted April 27, 2018 12 minutes ago, Klaista2k said: Rosen was talked about as probably the best pure pocket quarterback in the draft. He was available for the Bills to grab but they passed. Any options on why exactly we didn't like him? -Injury concerns? -Attitude? -Concerns about playing in the cold weather? -Was he just overrated in general? Thoughts? I think, for anyone who wanted to listen, that Allen fit the things Beane has been saying he was looking for more than Rosen. IMHO, for better or for worse, I think Allen's physical attributes and athleticism reminded him of Cam Newton, and the inaccuracy issues were of less concern. 1
Big C Posted April 27, 2018 Posted April 27, 2018 I didn't catch who was talking on my local sports radio, but he was a guy involved in scouting and drafting at the NFL level. He said that concussions are sometimes an issue that takes a player off the board completely. Maybe it was an issue for some teams in this case.
Magox Posted April 27, 2018 Posted April 27, 2018 And don't forget, Because of "politics" and that he's a "jew". So I've read 1
Jauronimo Posted April 27, 2018 Posted April 27, 2018 I really don't see how we can have this discussion without taking the gloves off and talking politics, religion, and the fact that California QBs just plain suck. 1
billsfan1959 Posted April 27, 2018 Posted April 27, 2018 1 minute ago, Big C said: I didn't catch who was talking on my local sports radio, but he was a guy involved in scouting and drafting at the NFL level. He said that concussions are sometimes an issue that takes a player off the board completely. Maybe it was an issue for some teams in this case. I would think durability had to be a major issue. It doesn't matter how talented a player is if he cannot stay on the field
eball Posted April 27, 2018 Posted April 27, 2018 8 minutes ago, Ramza86 said: Cause he looks like a twig. My god ive never seen smaller shoulders. I was watching the draft and my wife came into the room just before the Bills traded with Tampa. After the pick I told her I was a little bummed they took Allen over Rosen and she looked at Rosen and immediately said, "he looks like he will break." Made my night. 1 1
Rosen-not-Chosen Posted April 27, 2018 Posted April 27, 2018 I think McDermott was afraid to have a QB that was going to question the process when things weren't working. 16 minutes ago, PIZ said: They didn't pass on Rosen. They liked Allen better. That's not what Rosen's 30 for 30 will claim.
BuffaloRush Posted April 27, 2018 Posted April 27, 2018 17 minutes ago, Magox said: Just open up some of the other threads and you'll find some opinions there. Whinger 1
billsfan89 Posted April 27, 2018 Posted April 27, 2018 Durability concerns, maybe some character issues as well? I also think that it is possible that the Bills simply liked Josh Allen more? Allen has the best are we have seen in a long time, Allen is big and durable, Allen has some speed, and Allen seems to be a bright kid with good character. Yes, his accuracy and footwork are a concern. But if you are a QB under duress constantly with bad WR's in an offense with less high percentage throws those issues do have a context.
slaphappy Posted April 27, 2018 Posted April 27, 2018 Don't know what their reasoning was..but I wouldn't take him because with the current focus on head injuries that guy is one head bouncing off the turf away from never playing again.
Albany,n.y. Posted April 27, 2018 Posted April 27, 2018 I thought the 2 concussions were the scariest thing on his resume. If anything could lead to an early retirement, it would be too many concussions.
MJS Posted April 27, 2018 Posted April 27, 2018 I would guess injury concerns and a smaller upside. 1
DasNootz Posted April 27, 2018 Posted April 27, 2018 Rosen is said to be intelligent, yet Allen had a significantly higher Wonderlic score. Rosen may be much closer to his physical and mental ceiling, while Allen has much more perceived upside. Rosen's size and injury history has to be a concern for long term durability. Sam Bradford is a great comparison Stretching it a bit... if Rosen and Allen are both Pro Bowl players, who do we have the best chance of retaining long term when FA becomes an option, and who is more likely to be a disgruntled employee. 1
Dkollidas Posted April 27, 2018 Posted April 27, 2018 1. Allen has the greater upside 2. Rosen’s Injury history 3. The prefer the character/person that Allen is compared to Rosen.
Rosen-not-Chosen Posted April 27, 2018 Posted April 27, 2018 The Bills FO/coaching passed on him because they were afraid of a player questioning their stupid moves and game plans. 1 1
BuffaloRush Posted April 27, 2018 Posted April 27, 2018 6 minutes ago, billsfan1959 said: I think, for anyone who wanted to listen, that Allen fit the things Beane has been saying he was looking for more than Rosen. IMHO, for better or for worse, I think Allen's physical attributes and athleticism reminded him of Cam Newton, and the inaccuracy issues were of less concern. This is exactly why. It seems like McDermott and Beane are following the same blueprint they did in Carolina. Allen gives them a strong armed, athletic QB. Cam had accuracy issues in college and they were minimized in the NFL, so they think they can do the same with Allen. Many of us Bills fans wanted Rosen but it’s clear that the Bills didn’t want him. This is why we had to overspend at #7, instead of getting him later. Arizona wanted Allen and our team was not ok with that. I also think the injury concern was a big factor with why he wasn’t drafted.
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