Bing Bong Posted April 27, 2018 Posted April 27, 2018 Really thought they could have traded down for the corner. He looks like a stud tho. That said I would have gone Chubb. Don't think you can ever have too much front 7 to keep beefing up.
Boatdrinks Posted April 27, 2018 Posted April 27, 2018 I'm glad the Browns didn't select Chubb at 4. It seems the Bills had a deal with the Broncos in place, and the Broncos decided not to go through with it because Chubb was on the board. That means the Bills take Allen at 5 , presumably for a higher price. 1
foreboding Posted April 27, 2018 Posted April 27, 2018 If I were Cleveland I would have taken a generational talent in Barkley at 1 and then taken the best QB remaining at 4. Probably would have had the pick of 3 of them assuming Giants went Chubb. Silly Browns. They also could have taken anything to move down a few picks if they wanted the CB.
Nervous Guy Posted April 27, 2018 Posted April 27, 2018 14 minutes ago, foreboding said: If I were Cleveland I would have taken a generational talent in Barkley at 1 and then taken the best QB remaining at 4. Probably would have had the pick of 3 of them assuming Giants went Chubb. Silly Browns. They also could have taken anything to move down a few picks if they wanted the CB. The last time I heard generational talent it was attached to Sammy Watkins. YIKES!!
foreboding Posted April 28, 2018 Posted April 28, 2018 11 hours ago, Nervous Guy said: The last time I heard generational talent it was attached to Sammy Watkins. YIKES!! lol. Want to bet Barkey is the best RB in the league this year?
Seanbillsfan2206 Posted April 28, 2018 Posted April 28, 2018 2 minutes ago, foreboding said: lol. Want to bet Barkey is the best RB in the league this year? Lol. Let’s bet one hundred million dollars 1 1
ThunderGun Posted April 28, 2018 Posted April 28, 2018 How do you not pick Chubb to lineup across from Garrett... mind boggling. Definitely Brownsed that one up good.
4merper4mer Posted April 28, 2018 Posted April 28, 2018 12 hours ago, B-Large said: Cleveland passes over Fitzpatrick and Chubb for a undersized CB... the QB pick aside, they loved what Mayfield brought in competitiveness and acuracy... that 4th selection could be one of the biggest whiffs in recent draft history, just because you need a CB doesn’t mean you pass on no brainer elite defensive propsects... Jesus Cleveland, I sure hope you were right, Elway says thank you... Ward will turn out to be a good player but one would think they could have called Denver or Indy to shop the pick.
Fadingpain Posted April 28, 2018 Posted April 28, 2018 Yeah, I'm not ready to criticize Cleveland for their picks at 1 and 4. We have to see how it plays out.
Bring it Posted April 28, 2018 Posted April 28, 2018 My initial reaction was incredulous disbelief. The Browns could of had Barkley and at least the 3rd best Qb of the draft. It is it is still incredulous disbelief!!!
BillsFan130 Posted April 28, 2018 Posted April 28, 2018 50 minutes ago, foreboding said: lol. Want to bet Barkey is the best RB in the league this year? No way I see him being better than Bell next year. Bell can literally do anything at a very high level
cle23 Posted April 28, 2018 Posted April 28, 2018 1 hour ago, ThunderGun said: How do you not pick Chubb to lineup across from Garrett... mind boggling. Definitely Brownsed that one up good. Because Ogbah is a damn good DE in his own right. Good pass rusher and great against the run.
essential Posted April 28, 2018 Posted April 28, 2018 I'll defend passing on Chubb. Just from a salary cap standpoint, if Garrett and Chubb were both amazing, which is a good problem to have, their contracts would be coming up one year apart and they'd both command around 16-18m per year, maybe more in 4 years? You can't invest 40m in DEs. I don't think it's ever a good idea to take the same position in the first round two years in a row, because if they both work out you can rarely afford to pay both. Kind of like Winfield and Clements, they weren't drafted two years in a row, 1999 and 2001, but we couldn't pay both ... it seems to work that way. Garrett and Chubb might have been great, but would you take Chubb knowing that you'd only have that combo for 3-4 years? Sure, there are a bunch of different ways it can go, but all I'm saying is I understand some of the logic behind passing on Chubb.
purple haze Posted April 28, 2018 Posted April 28, 2018 15 hours ago, rodneykm said: I didn't get the CB pick that high...but maybe the kid is special. I've not seen him play. Ward is a straight beast. He's excellent in coverage. He's not the biggest, but he willingly gets the pads poppin' too. Good on special teams as well. Not really shock he went in top 10. But Chubb with Garrett could have put QBs in the matrix. 1
Manther Posted April 28, 2018 Posted April 28, 2018 15 hours ago, DJB said: Mayfield over Darnold and Rosen? Ward over Chubb is a catastrophe. Same old Browns I think Mayfield is/was the best QB in the draft. I thought it was a good pick. The Ward pick blows my mind. A DE with Chubb's talent vs a CB? Mind blowing. How many CBs are worth a top 5 pick. This Century I can think of Revis. But, he went mid teens. One of the problems with drafting a CB that high is if you hit on that CB when you resign them you are looking at $15 million a year. I don't think you should use that cap space on a CB. Another is CBs typically have a shorter prime to their careers.
ThunderGun Posted April 28, 2018 Posted April 28, 2018 1 hour ago, cle23 said: Because Ogbah is a damn good DE in his own right. Good pass rusher and great against the run. So? Draft the ELITE pass rusher, and either deal Ogbah then use that pick to address the secondary, or better yet, just have a SICK pass rushing rotation similar to what the Giants had during their most recent SB wins, or the Broncos with Miller/Ware, except you'd have all 3 in the prime of their careers whereas Demarcus was on the tail end of his... No way you ever pass on the elite pass rusher, especially for an undersized DB... Besides, Ogbah has 9.5 career sacks, no way I'm passing on Chubb for that.
Manther Posted April 28, 2018 Posted April 28, 2018 (edited) 16 hours ago, B-Large said: Cleveland passes over Fitzpatrick and Chubb for a undersized CB... the QB pick aside, they loved what Mayfield brought in competitiveness and acuracy... that 4th selection could be one of the biggest whiffs in recent draft history, just because you need a CB doesn’t mean you pass on no brainer elite defensive propsects... Jesus Cleveland, I sure hope you were right, Elway says thank you... Agreed, unless I am missing something! 16 hours ago, first_and_ten said: Do you think if they drafted Barkley at number one, Mayfield would have been there at number four? I don’t think so 4 hours ago, ThunderGun said: How do you not pick Chubb to lineup across from Garrett... mind boggling. Definitely Brownsed that one up good. Agreed, mind blown! Trade down if you want Ward. But, I still think that wouldn’t have been there best move! Edited April 28, 2018 by Manther
deadbeef Posted April 28, 2018 Posted April 28, 2018 18 hours ago, Nervous Guy said: The last time I heard generational talent it was attached to Sammy Watkins. YIKES!! Reggie Bush and Robert Gallery come to mind as once in a decade talent at RB and LT in drafts past. There are no sure things in the draft.
BillsFan17 Posted April 28, 2018 Posted April 28, 2018 6 hours ago, foreboding said: lol. Want to bet Barkey is the best RB in the league this year? Ill take that action hands down!!
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