transplantbillsfan Posted April 27, 2018 Posted April 27, 2018 1 hour ago, Doc Brown said: I knew that draft we'd reach for a quarterback and we didn't trade anything to get for him. Allen we gave up two 2nd round picks for and we picked him nine picks higher. Allen may have more upside, but I have little faith that it will work out. I don't think there was anyone legitimately projecting Manuel as a 1st round prospect. We took Manuel purely for need in one of the weakest QB draft classes in recent history. Almost every NFL evaluator views Allen as a 1st round prospect. And make no mistake about it, Beane has been accumulating these draft picks primarily in order to get his Franchise QB. It's obvious he had a price because he said in his PC yesterday the cost to get up higher than 7 was too high. So trading away future draft picks combined with picks after the 1st round this year seemed off the table. In the end, we traded 2 2nd round picks away in order to get Allen. We only really have 2 gaping holes on this team: MLB and Franchise QB. We got both and will still manage to have 7 picks in this draft by the end of Saturday, assuming we keep the rest of our picks where they are. And ZERO future picks. We can argue all day about other positions, but WR should be better than last year already, not that that's even very difficult. On OL Groy and Bodine probably aren't huge steps back from Wood and Incognito. Dawkin's got another year experience and Mills was better last year than the year before. Glenn never even saw the field last year. RB we've upgraded. TE's the same DE's the same DL we've upgraded CBs are about the same Safety is the same OLB's are about the same Franchise QB is the most important position, and I'm glad Beane traded up for one, even if he's really the guy I didn't want. Those guys get paid to scout these players and know a helluva lot more about them than I do, and the more I look into Allen's kind of unique history and listen to him speak and watch the way he throws and listen to guys like Trent Dilfer and Jordan Palmer talk about him, I think maybe Allen can break the trend of the 1st round true project QB not evolving into Franchise QB. I'm not utterly confident he will, but he's our QB now and I'm liking the kid and his work ethic and his demeaner and his natural ability, so I very much have hope he will. And I'll also say this, when we traded up and I threw my phone because it was Allen and not Rosen, I'm now kinda happy we didn't draft Rosen. I watched and listened to all his interviews after he fell to 10 and the Cardinals drafted him. Holy crap... what a complete jackass!!! That might be the homer in me talking and maybe if the Bills drafted him and he said the same thing, I'd say "I love his competitive fire!!!" but I don't really think so.... he just sounds like a complete dick, and I don't actually think he would have fit in WNY very well.
GoBills808 Posted April 27, 2018 Posted April 27, 2018 Heh...'gaping holes'...heh I'll let myself out. 1
The Virginian Posted April 27, 2018 Posted April 27, 2018 Troy Aikman on Josh Allen: https://www.msn.com/en-us/video/watch/wyoming-quarterback-josh-allen-player-comparison-usc-quarterback-sam-darnold/vi-AAwoFLA
Augie Posted April 27, 2018 Posted April 27, 2018 43 minutes ago, Canadian Bills Fan said: Aces Mike Mayock's pop quiz. Really shows off his football IQ here Nice interview! He comes off very well there IMO. I like that he thanks his coaches, but mentions Palmer repeatedly without saying “HEY! I’ve barely even been coached up by real coaches!” 1 1
K-9 Posted April 27, 2018 Posted April 27, 2018 28 minutes ago, nbbillsfan said: I wish coach Bohl would have indicated that Allen could do some of the stuff Wetnz did (change protection, ect). My fear with Allen is not accuracy, I think he is a very accurate passer, it is football IQ. High completion percentage often have more to do with the intelligence to set up the play correctly and throw to the right person (things I think the Elite QB's do better than everyone else) and getting easy completions - this is where Allen will need to grow. There is another video in this thread where he discusses protections calls, etc. with Kirk Cousins. Mayock also mentions how he’s heard that Allen is doing very well with the Xs and Os during the evaluation process. I think he’s got the head for the game in that regard but he’s gotta learn to trust what he sees and pull the trigger. 2
Chuck Wagon Posted April 27, 2018 Posted April 27, 2018 19 minutes ago, DriveFor1Outta5 said: You wanted him, but you think he is going to get his “butt kicked”? Consider me confused. I think the NFC West could be the most competitive division in football over the next few years. I don't feel the same way about the AFC East. The Cardinals are a team in transition.
MarlinTheMagician Posted April 27, 2018 Posted April 27, 2018 51 minutes ago, yungmack said: There was one A+ QB, two B+/A-, one C and a D. Predictably the Bills took the D. Nah, Cardinals got the D. We got the A+ - I like him and Darnold about the same. I think Allen will be better. Rosen will be out of the league before his second contract, IMHO
Bills Fan of St Augustine Posted April 27, 2018 Posted April 27, 2018 19 hours ago, GunnerBill said: This is a mistake. It will bring down this regime. You can mark this post and you can quote it back to me any time you like in the future if I am wrong. I won't be. Gunner - Feel wrong yet? No? You will sooner or later!
major Posted April 27, 2018 Posted April 27, 2018 Still trying to process that the Wyoming qb is our qb 2
Bills Fan of St Augustine Posted April 27, 2018 Posted April 27, 2018 1 minute ago, major said: Still trying to process that the Wyoming qb is our qb Take your time - we are all merely pawns in the game of life... 1
BuffaloHokie13 Posted April 27, 2018 Posted April 27, 2018 4 minutes ago, K-9 said: There is another video in this thread where he discusses protections calls, etc. with Kirk Cousins. Mayock also mentions how he’s heard that Allen is doing very well with the Xs and Os during the evaluation process. I think he’s got the head for the game in that regard but he’s gotta learn to trust what he sees and pull the trigger. I think it's more trusting the talent around him, which he hasn't had the luxury of in the past. I also think he's going to need to learn to dial it back a bit and take what the D gives you at times. He wants to throw the go on 3rd and 8, but in the NFL it pays to see that and take the 12 yard in instead.
ThunderingHerd Posted April 27, 2018 Posted April 27, 2018 I loved the pick. Allen is who I wanted us to draft all along, lots of potential, here's hoping we have the next Jim Kelly. The fact that Beane was able to keep our other first round pick to grab our linebacker was just amazing. I love it! Go Bills!!! 1
RaoulDuke79 Posted April 27, 2018 Posted April 27, 2018 2 hours ago, Dalton said: While I was in favor of Rosen I think this shows the mindset of Beane The Bills would have gotten a very good QB in Rosen. That would have been the safe pick. Instead he is rolling the dice on Allen who could be great. He may also be a bust. He made the bold not safe bet. I wasnt even in favor of rosen. Durability is a question. Not sure how a Cali guy would adapt to Buffalo weather. I have Edwards flashbacks. If he really loves the game I think hes in the right place. I just didnt see him fitting in in bufflo.
K-9 Posted April 27, 2018 Posted April 27, 2018 1 minute ago, Bills Fan of Maryland said: Take your time - we are all merely pawns in the game of life... Aw, Josh loves candy. 1
MarlinTheMagician Posted April 27, 2018 Posted April 27, 2018 For those who have not watched it, go back and watch the Maycock interview. I don't know how anyone cannot be 100% behind the kid. Seems genuine, fully committed. 1
Bills Fan of St Augustine Posted April 27, 2018 Posted April 27, 2018 None of the QBs selected are sure things. I am just glad Beane was patient and picked his guy without having to give up a 1 this or next year. Two 2s was a bit steep, but what the heck, he went and got his guy before someone else jumped him. For a QB, it was worth it. And I love Tree Main! 1
Buffalo Ballin Posted April 27, 2018 Posted April 27, 2018 (edited) I hated this pick, but it's cool with me now. I'm a Lamar Jackson, Josh Rosen, and Baker Mayfield guy even though we had absolutely no shot at Mayfield. Josh Allen is a Buffalo Bill now. His white racist butt better be able to play QB in this league. He didn't do much in college and Beane trading picks away for him was stupid AF. What an idiot. Allen was gonna be there at pick 12 without trading. Miami wasn't taking him. Good God. Stupid stupid stupid. Beane panicked. 11 minutes ago, Bills Fan of Maryland said: None of the QBs selected are sure things. I am just glad Beane was patient and picked his guy without having to give up a 1 this or next year. Two 2s was a bit steep, but what the heck, he went and got his guy before someone else jumped him. For a QB, it was worth it. And I love Tree Main! LOL Beane wasn't patient. Allen was gonna be there at 12 without trading. Edited April 27, 2018 by Buffalo Ballin
ThunderingHerd Posted April 27, 2018 Posted April 27, 2018 3 minutes ago, Buffalo Ballin said: I hated this pick, but it's cool with me now. I'm a Lamar Jackson, Josh Rosen, and Baker Mayfield guy even though we had absolutely no shot at Mayfield. Josh Allen is a Buffalo Bill now. His white racist butt better be able to play QB in this league. No he's not a white racist. He made some stupid comments back when he was 14 years old. He owned up to it and apologized a bunch of times already. Sheesh, let it go already.
Buffalo Ballin Posted April 27, 2018 Posted April 27, 2018 Y 1 minute ago, ThunderingHerd said: No he's not a white racist. He made some stupid comments back when he was 14 years old. He owned up to it and apologized a bunch of times already. Sheesh, let it go already. Stop crying. Allen can defend himself, He's in the big boys league now. Sheesh.
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