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1 minute ago, PolishDave said:

 

He won't start for at least another year.   They will have to rebuild the offensive line in the meantime somehow.

 

I cannot imagine mccarron starting 16

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Just should have stayed put or traded  down to get Jackson or Rudolph. Can't even be excited about tomorrow's draft day with only two picks now. Hope he is more Matthew Stafford than Jake Locker but we will see. 

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1 minute ago, billspro said:

 

Allen and Mahommes are the same type of prospect. You are kidding yourself if you think otherwise. 

Mahomes was at least good in college.  But the main thing for me is trust Andy Reid a million times more than anyone on the Bills at identity qb talent.

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Just now, Maine-iac said:

Somebody remind me again if Brady is strong armed or accurate?  At least he is a big guy.  With no OL left he'll take a pounding.

He'll be fine. AJ will be the one taking the pounding this year, while we let Allen develop.

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45 minutes ago, Mopreme said:

Cardinals only gave up 3rd and 5th round picks to move up. Beene did a bad job giving up 2 2nd round picks. Who cares about a 7th round pick.  

Cardinals only gave up 3rd and 5th round picks to move up. Beene did a bad job giving up 2 2nd round picks. Who cares about a 7th round pick.  

 

I have no idea how they gave up two second rounds. One would have got the job done. 

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Just now, NewDayBills said:

Yes, yes, yes, yes.

 

I've been crucified for my love of Allen but I'm not worried, highest ceiling of any QB in the draft. 

 

His upside = Ben Roethlisberger

 

And his downside is Kyle Boller. 

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Just now, ScottLaw said:

Just trying to understand.

 

How do they expect to teach this guy accuracy.... something you can't teach? 

Not necessarily true. His footwork/base needs work. If he can improve that and deliver from a consistently stable base we should see an improvement in his accuracy as well. He’s a project though, no doubt about it. 

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23 minutes ago, MDH said:

I’m going to blame Beane for my hangover tomorrow. I switched from beer to whiskey after the Allen pick.

 

I think we all started drinking heavily after that pick. 

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Just now, SouthNYfan said:

 

Well.

It's a fact that Rosen or Allen would be gone, since AZ traded up and took Rosen.

Miami was very high on a QB as well, which is why AZ leapfrogged them.

So while nobody knows for sure, your assumption that Allen would still have been available @ #12 is much less plausible than my scenario.

Rapoport said AZ was interested to trade up and get allen. If he turns out to be a franchise guy for the next 15 years, no one is going to remember that the bills only traded 2 second round picks to get him. No sense getting cute with it

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1 minute ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

This is reasonable.

 

but right now, if you had to bet your house on it, would you bet on Allen being a star or a bust?  It’s so hard to predict college qbs transitioning to the pros but a low completion % is very troubling.  And it was in a low level conference.  

 

I think they fell in love with his size and arm and this BS that it snows every day in Buffalo.  I hate this pick but I’m rooting to be wrong.  But there’s so much evidence that he is going to struggle to make it.  His ceiling seems to be Joe Flacco.


Baker was my guy, but honestly Allen had by far the best offseason of any of the prospects.  Beane has my complete trust, so if they felt he was the guy, I will trust that more than anything.  So I am excited...all these guys had risk.  

 

But I wouldn't bet my house on any QB in this draft.  Darnold made a ton of stupid decisions this year, as much as people were enamored with him, the kid left you gasping every week at something stupid he did.  I mean there is no lock...to me, Baker was the safest pick.  So, I am behind it even though Allen wasn't my first choice either.  But I also didn't invest thousand of hours into researching these kids, so I will trust Beane who so far has 100% earned my trust with his wizardry since becoming the Bills GM.

 

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Just now, billsfan11 said:

Rapoport said AZ was interested to trade up and get allen. If he turns out to be a franchise guy for the next 15 years, no one is going to remember that the bills only traded 2 second round picks to get him. No sense getting cute with it

 

Agreed.

I'm not THRILLED with Allen, and I'm a little annoyed we gave up TWO second rounders, meanwhile AZ only gave up a 3rd and 5th to move up and get Rosen...

My response was to H20 who said "allen would have been available at #12" which I was asserting that he most certainly would not have been.

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Just now, Mr. ChumChums said:

He'll be fine. AJ will be the one taking the pounding this year, while we let Allen develop.

Who's developing Allen?  Daboll with his TE skills and 17ppg OC history or McDermott who's a DC by trade?  I don't even hate the Allen pick so much as I don't think we have the OL, WR's, or coaching staff to develop anyone.  If we had any real offensive minds we would have been able to score with the players we had last year like Lynn and Roman were able to do.

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1 minute ago, billspro said:

 

I have no idea how they gave up two second rounds. One would have got the job done. 

 

Yep.  They overpaid by the equivalent of an extra 2nd according to the trade value chart...

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1 minute ago, billsfan11 said:

Rapoport said AZ was interested to trade up and get allen. If he turns out to be a franchise guy for the next 15 years, no one is going to remember that the bills only traded 2 second round picks to get him. No sense getting cute with it

Yeah, I don’t really care about the trade up. I just think we selected the wrong Josh.

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13 minutes ago, OJABBA said:

 

You're "confused" about Rosen being a prick?

 

Josh Rosen, on getting drafted by the Cardinals: “I dodged getting drafted by the Browns, Jets, AND Bills. I’m the luckiest man on earth.”

 

He is, and will continue too be an !@#$.

where'd you see this?

 

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