McBean Posted April 27, 2018 Posted April 27, 2018 Can he put it together? Watch some of these highlights at the Senior Bowl with good talent around him. Notice his mechanics, foot work, and those throws. The throw on the run when Harrison Phillips is chasing him is insane. Upside: Big Ben Downside: Cutler I'll say it again, Brandon Beane has brass balls. Allen could be a home run for many years. You can't teach the skills this dude has. 8 1
ddaryl Posted April 27, 2018 Posted April 27, 2018 (edited) On 4/27/2018 at 2:27 PM, Rosen-not-Chosen said: Except accuracy and touch. Expand Actually at the senior bowl game he made a few nice touch throws, and was pretty accurate. Weird because in the practices he threw up a bunch of turds in drills and practice Edited April 27, 2018 by ddaryl 1
McBean Posted April 27, 2018 Author Posted April 27, 2018 On 4/27/2018 at 2:27 PM, Rosen-not-Chosen said: Except accuracy and touch. Expand No denying his accuracy in college wasn't good. However, the talent around him was trash. I'm excited we have a guy that has this much upside. 2
Chuck Wagon Posted April 27, 2018 Posted April 27, 2018 Everything you look for in terms of the position physically. Arm talent to fit the environment. Personality to fit the city. Now the task is putting in pieces to allow him to reach his potential. 3
The Frankish Reich Posted April 27, 2018 Posted April 27, 2018 On 4/27/2018 at 2:27 PM, McBean said: Can he put it together? Watch some of these highlights at the Senior Bowl with good talent around him. Notice his mechanics, foot work, and those throws. The throw on the run when Harrison Phillips is chasing him is insane. Upside: Big Ben Downside: Cutler I'll say it again, Brandon Beane has brass balls. Allen could be a home run for many years. You can't teach the skills this dude has. Expand I hate to admit it, but I think I've had a mental block when trying to come up with comparables for Allen. Jay Cutler is a really good one. Rocket arm, athletic but definitely not a "running QB." We make fun of Cutler and for good reason, but the guy was pretty good for a while ... if Allen is just a little less obnoxious (those 16 year old's tweets don't bode well) and a lot more dedicated to his craft, that could be a very good scenario for Bills fans. 1
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted April 27, 2018 Posted April 27, 2018 ...wish we had a bonafide, experienced QB Coach to develop him.....
Go-Bills Posted April 27, 2018 Posted April 27, 2018 Hard working Kid with a quality staff to round him out
Wayne Arnold Posted April 27, 2018 Posted April 27, 2018 On 4/27/2018 at 2:27 PM, McBean said: Can he put it together? Watch some of these highlights at the Senior Bowl with good talent around him. Notice his mechanics, foot work, and those throws. The throw on the run when Harrison Phillips is chasing him is insane. Upside: Big Ben Downside: Cutler I'll say it again, Brandon Beane has brass balls. Allen could be a home run for many years. You can't teach the skills this dude has. Expand 82nd in college football in passer rating. 58th in QBR. There is no chance this works out. 2
NewEra Posted April 27, 2018 Posted April 27, 2018 On 4/27/2018 at 2:34 PM, Wayne Arnold said: 82nd in college football in passer rating. 58th in QBR. There is no chance this works out. Expand Unless a young kid get better? Gotta love the “no chance” people. There IS most definitely a chance 4
dollars 2 donuts Posted April 27, 2018 Posted April 27, 2018 Look, you guys are being ridiculous. At least we have a very experienced and tremendous QB coach "guru" who is going to properly guide him along. 1
T master Posted April 27, 2018 Posted April 27, 2018 Too this regime can learn from the Bills past as to what not to do with a rookie QB I think the Bills have had decent talent in the past at the position but by the hand of the coaches at the time have put those young QB's at a terrible disadvantage weather it be just plain bad coaching or bad decision as far as their timing to insert them into the games !! I think these guys have been methodical & have a plan in place & hopefully can build this guy into a really good NFL starting QB !!
Wayne Arnold Posted April 27, 2018 Posted April 27, 2018 On 4/27/2018 at 2:37 PM, NewEra said: Unless a young kid get better? Gotta love the “no chance” people. There IS most definitely a chance Expand As if it were so easy.
Lurker Posted April 27, 2018 Posted April 27, 2018 On 4/27/2018 at 2:38 PM, T master said: Too this regime can learn from the Bills past as to what not to do with a rookie QB I think the Bills have had decent talent in the past at the position but by the hand of the coaches at the time have put those young QB's at a terrible disadvantage weather it be just plain bad coaching or bad decision as far as their timing to insert them into the games !! Expand No coaching staff studies the failures of past regimes. These guys are ego-driven Alpha males who only charge forward, using their own experiences as road maps. History is for historians and fans... 1
NewEraBills Posted April 27, 2018 Posted April 27, 2018 (edited) On 4/27/2018 at 2:29 PM, McBean said: No denying his accuracy in college wasn't good. However, the talent around him was trash. I'm excited we have a guy that has this much upside. Expand So were the secondaries in the MWC he faced, but I guess that doesn't mean much. Just to be clear, I'm addressing your argument, not necessarily Allen himself. Edited April 27, 2018 by NewEraBills
Rosen-not-Chosen Posted April 27, 2018 Posted April 27, 2018 On 4/27/2018 at 2:42 PM, Lurker said: No coaching staff studies the failures of past regimes. These guys are ego-driven Alpha males who only charge forward, using their own experiences as road maps. History is for historians and fans... Expand Bingo! These guys are just trying to recreate what they had in Carolina with what they hope is Cam Newton 2.0. Allen is not Cam Newton, he's Gabbert at best.
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted April 27, 2018 Posted April 27, 2018 On 4/27/2018 at 2:34 PM, Wayne Arnold said: 82nd in college football in passer rating. 58th in QBR. There is no chance this works out. Expand so you're in the know? I think not but go ahead and convince yourself, you're not convincing me he has no chance. 2
JackKemp Posted April 27, 2018 Posted April 27, 2018 On 4/27/2018 at 2:45 PM, Rosen-not-Chosen said: Bingo! These guys are just trying to recreate what they had in Carolina with what they hope is Cam Newton 2.0. Allen is not Cam Newton, he's Gabbert at best. Expand Carson Wentz is more what they are looking for. Let's see what we have. They certainly believed strongly in him to do what they did.
Kingston Bills Fan Posted April 27, 2018 Posted April 27, 2018 Our O-line is in shambles and we gave up two 2nds to move up 5 spots for Allen and the Cards only gave up a 3rd and 5th to move up 5 spots for Rosen I say Cards got a way better deal!
Wayne Cubed Posted April 27, 2018 Posted April 27, 2018 On 4/27/2018 at 2:27 PM, McBean said: Can he put it together? Watch some of these highlights at the Senior Bowl with good talent around him. Notice his mechanics, foot work, and those throws. The throw on the run when Harrison Phillips is chasing him is insane. Upside: Big Ben Downside: Cutler I'll say it again, Brandon Beane has brass balls. Allen could be a home run for many years. You can't teach the skills this dude has. Expand He doesn't have everything. If he did, he was going 1st overall. He has accuracy issues. He gets confused by coverages. He doesn't throw many anticipatory throws. Thats why he needs to sit a learn. Does he have massive upside? Yes, he does. 3
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