Mat68 Posted May 4, 2018 Posted May 4, 2018 Likley no, but regaurdless they got the guy they wanted. If they liked Darnold they could have gone to 2. They were willing to go to 5 so they obviously are very high on him.
John from Riverside Posted May 4, 2018 Posted May 4, 2018 15 hours ago, QB12 said: Yes, he would have still been there for the taking at the 12th pick if the Bills didn't move up to take him before then. no..he wouldnt On 4/26/2018 at 10:46 PM, JayBaller10 said: I've seen too many "who cares" posts for my liking. I for one DO CARE the Bills gave up TWO 2nd round picks. Picks that had the potential to fill one of many holes - WR, OL, another LB, DL, RB. Those 2nd rounders are premium picks and the Bills caved into the Bucs demand. Would I have been upset if the two went towards drafting Rosen? Probably not as much, so the bias of not liking the player makes it sting that much more. I sincerely hope Allen defies every single metric and becomes a top echelon QB. Lord knows the Bills need a break. But then again, the Bills have had many opportunities to create their own breaks, but time and time again they piss them away... just like those two 2nd round picks. Except they might not have addressed the most important position on the field....then whoever they got with those 2nd round picks dont mean squat......and time and time again the bills have ignored this position. 2
Soda Popinski Posted May 4, 2018 Posted May 4, 2018 Just now, John from Riverside said: no..he wouldnt I don't think he would have been either. Miami was rumored to be looking, and we know Arizona was moving up for a QB. We could have sat there at 12, watched Rosen or Allen go at 10 to Arizona, then watched Miami take the leftover at 11 and been exactly where we were in 2004 watching our franchise QB go 1 pick before us.
John from Riverside Posted May 4, 2018 Posted May 4, 2018 Just now, Soda Popinski said: I don't think he would have been either. Miami was rumored to be looking, and we know Arizona was moving up for a QB. We could have sat there at 12, watched Rosen or Allen go at 10 to Arizona, then watched Miami take the leftover at 11 and been exactly where we were in 2004 watching our franchise QB go 1 pick before us. All of this is true Frankly it really does not even matter to me in the end - Some are lamenting the 2 2nd round picks we gave up IF YOU DO NOT HAVE YOUR QB IT DOES NOT MATTER WHO YOU TOOK WITH THOSE 2ND ROUND PICKS....quarterback is the most important postion on the field. - We managed to keep 22....which we turned into a freak athletic linebacker - Still managed to get that OG and DT in the later rounds both of which could be starting soon - If Allen works out then giving up the whole draft would have been worth it....lucky for us Beane is a ninja 1
Soda Popinski Posted May 4, 2018 Posted May 4, 2018 Just now, John from Riverside said: All of this is true Frankly it really does not even matter to me in the end - Some are lamenting the 2 2nd round picks we gave up IF YOU DO NOT HAVE YOUR QB IT DOES NOT MATTER WHO YOU TOOK WITH THOSE 2ND ROUND PICKS....quarterback is the most important postion on the field. - We managed to keep 22....which we turned into a freak athletic linebacker - Still managed to get that OG and DT in the later rounds both of which could be starting soon - If Allen works out then giving up the whole draft would have been worth it....lucky for us Beane is a ninja The fact we didn't give up a 2019 pick and we got both Allen and Edmunds and still got Phillips this draft was an absolute homerun in my opinion. We just have to develop Allen properly 1
PromoTheRobot Posted May 4, 2018 Posted May 4, 2018 (edited) On 27/04/2018 at 12:10 AM, Awwufelloff said: I'm almost positive he would have been. Giving up all we did to move up 5 spots was quite dumb, a side from drafting Allen over Rosen... There were several reports that the Bills were competing with the Cardinals for both the Tampa and Denver picks. One report out of Arizona said the Cards were "heartbroken" over getting beat out by the Bills for Allen. Of course you are free to not believe them. Edited May 4, 2018 by PromoTheRobot
John from Riverside Posted May 4, 2018 Posted May 4, 2018 1 hour ago, Soda Popinski said: The fact we didn't give up a 2019 pick and we got both Allen and Edmunds and still got Phillips this draft was an absolute homerun in my opinion. We just have to develop Allen properly That OG we got doesnt look too shabby either. Not every hole has been addressed, but hard do that in or or even 2 drafts when you are completely changing schemes both defensively and offensively. We still need A RT that doesnt suck A stretch the field receiver 1
Soda Popinski Posted May 4, 2018 Posted May 4, 2018 26 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: That OG we got doesnt look too shabby either. Not every hole has been addressed, but hard do that in or or even 2 drafts when you are completely changing schemes both defensively and offensively. We still need A RT that doesnt suck A stretch the field receiver This guy gets it.
TigerJ Posted May 4, 2018 Posted May 4, 2018 I'm buying reports that Arizona loved Josh Allen. I think it was even more of a given that they would have traded up for Allen if Buffalo had not taken him.
Mountain Man Posted May 4, 2018 Posted May 4, 2018 On 27/04/2018 at 5:32 AM, Alphadawg7 said: More importantly...WHO CARES. People who just want to moan about the pick. 1
Big Turk Posted May 4, 2018 Posted May 4, 2018 On 4/27/2018 at 12:10 AM, Awwufelloff said: I'm almost positive he would have been. Giving up all we did to move up 5 spots was quite dumb, a side from drafting Allen over Rosen... No the Cardinals were trying very hard to move up and were "heartbroken" when we moved up ahead of them
blacklabel Posted May 4, 2018 Posted May 4, 2018 San Francisco was open to move down from #9 and had talks with Arizona so I don't think he would have been there at 12. They did what they set out to do. They compiled their data, reorganized the hell out of the roster, acquired extra picks, identified their guy, then went and got him. We'll see how it pans out but props to this front office for sticking to their guns and executing their plans.
Billsfansinceday1 Posted May 5, 2018 Posted May 5, 2018 This is a strange question. We know that Arizona MIGHT have moved up but we will probably never know for sure. Bottom line is that we got the guy that McDermott and Beane though would have the best chance of success on the Bills team and moved up to get him masterfully. Let's just watch and see how Josh progresses and stop second guessing every decision made by OBD.
CSBill Posted May 5, 2018 Posted May 5, 2018 8 minutes ago, Billsfansinceday1 said: This is a strange question. We know that Arizona MIGHT have moved up but we will probably never know for sure. Bottom line is that we got the guy that McDermott and Beane though would have the best chance of success on the Bills team and moved up to get him masterfully. Let's just watch and see how Josh progresses and stop second guessing every decision made by OBD. yes
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