No Cease Fires Posted April 27, 2018 Posted April 27, 2018 5 minutes ago, BuffaloBillsGospel said: What are you basing this off of? I don't drink Kool aid and think he has all the tools to be a star. Tools, yes. But he hasn't shown he knows what to do with them. Kinda like some other Bills QB picks I don't need to mention. Look, I really hope he's a star, and of course there's a chance he will be. But looking at the history of college QBs with less than 60 percent accuracy, those chances aren't good. That's the truth. So if I were a betting man, I would bet on him to bust. And that's just playing the percentages. The only way I would bet on him to be a star is if I had a whole ton of faith in a regime that has given me no reason to have said faith when it comes to the QB position. Hence the Kool-aid.
Hurricane Marv Posted April 27, 2018 Posted April 27, 2018 (edited) Completely in the middle, don't know how you can't be. His potential is through the roof and he's a blue chip prospect. What we wanted right? I would have taken Rosen 100/100 times but I'm completely open to coming around on Allen. He's our QB, now. A lot of people who know a hell of a lot more than I do love him, so I'm into it. I absolutely love and support the plan of QB/LB, I just need to come around on this being the QB. We did get the best LB in the entire draft in my opinion, so it really is a matter of coming around on the QB. Very Billsy way of handling a chest of riches in general - I'm equally skeptical and excited. The Edmunds pick was fantastic, and they got a giant, young QB who can throw really far I guess. This draft was more of a quizzical eyebrow raise than an attempt to throw my TV through the window. so I'm on board. Edited April 27, 2018 by Hurricane Marv 2 1
{::'KayCeeS::} Posted April 27, 2018 Posted April 27, 2018 5 minutes ago, Hurricane Marv said: Completely in the middle, don't know how you can't be. His potential is through the roof and he's a blue chip prospect. What we wanted right? I would have taken Rosen 1000/1000 times but I'm completely open to coming around on Allen. He's our QB, now. A lot of people who know a hell of a lot more than I do love him, so I'm into it. I absolutely love and support the plan of QB/LB, I just need to come around on this being the QB. This is pretty much exactly how I feel. 1
Ol Dirty B Posted April 27, 2018 Posted April 27, 2018 2 minutes ago, {::'KayCeeS::} said: This is pretty much exactly how I feel. I'm confused. Who are all these people who love Allen?
John from Riverside Posted April 27, 2018 Posted April 27, 2018 22 minutes ago, No Cease Fires said: I'm not saying he won't turn out to be a star, I hope he does. But to predict that TODAY when every conceivable metric says nuh-uh, well, you're riding on faith and little else. He is a wait and see but who isnt rosen injury and possible commitment issues Darnold ball security problems Allen accuracy and low level competition 1
Doc Brown Posted April 27, 2018 Posted April 27, 2018 He's the most obvious bust since Jake Locker imo. I said that before we took him and I'm saying that after we took him. When they do a 30 for 30 on the 2018 QB draft class 30 years from now, he's going to be the '83 Todd Blackledge between Elway and Kelly. Other than that, I'll be rooting for him.
Hurricane Marv Posted April 27, 2018 Posted April 27, 2018 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Ol Dirty B said: I'm confused. Who are all these people who love Allen? Like 6/10 pundits and journalists who've commented in the last two weeks. Totally scientific estimate I know, but everybody seemingly loved Josh Allen until the texts came out last night it seemed.. I'm not a fan, but he was tossed around as a potential #1 pick by just about every talking head who can mumble, so it wasn't a complete stretch to pick him. I simply just don't like it. Edited April 27, 2018 by Hurricane Marv
timekills17 Posted April 27, 2018 Posted April 27, 2018 18 minutes ago, Awwufelloff said: From the Jets board. Pretty much how I feel. Every single NFL forum message board is laughing at us for taking Allen. Beane did not address how to fix his accuracy in the interview. Might need a new management team. "The stars aligned for us in many ways tonight. Darnold fell in our laps.Buffalo took Allen.And just as Miami is licking their chops, Arizona sweeps in and takes Rosen, forcing Miami to take a safety lolCouldn't have written tonight any better, IMO" "If I had to hand pick a QB for the Bills to struggle with for the next 5 years it would be Allen." "Josh Allen to the Bills was just a bonus pick for the Jets." Hmm. I guess since the Jets have been so successful in picking QBs that we should definitely take their criticism as a concern. (/s) Jets fans thinking we did the wrong thing makes me suddenly much more comfortable Allen was the right pick after all.
Hurricane Marv Posted April 27, 2018 Posted April 27, 2018 I do have this overwhelming feeling that McBeane and company are the overexcited 12 year olds getting completely schooled by the cool kids, but it would have been much worse had the Dolphins taken Rosen. 1
Ol Dirty B Posted April 27, 2018 Posted April 27, 2018 Just now, Hurricane Marv said: Like 6/10 pundits and journalists who've commented in the last two weeks. Totally rough, scientific estimate I know, but everybody loved Josh Allen until the texts came out last night it seemed.. I'm not a fan, but he was tossed around as a potential #1 pick by just about every talking head who can mumble, so it wasn't a complete stretch to pick him. I simply just don't like it. Really? I feel like I saw the opposite. I thought they saw him as someone with a high ceiling, but it was a big risk believing he'd reach it. He had had all the physical skills athletically, but accuracy, and mentally was going to be a jump for him. I thought Kiper was getting killed by everyone, including Mcshay (probably manufactured though) because no one honestly believed he go one. I believe you read this I just missed it and thought a lot of skepticism surrounded Allen the whole time. Here's to hoping we're all wrong who didnt believe.
John from Riverside Posted April 27, 2018 Posted April 27, 2018 (edited) 31 minutes ago, Ol Dirty B said: Or maybe you don't know crap? Do you see how childish this can get. He doesn't know ****. You don't know ****. I don't know ****. Let's just stop telling each other we don't know **** because all the people who like Allen, the only defense they have for the pick is that you don't know ****. You don't get paid to do this. Paid professionals know more than you so I'm guessing by saying that, that lot must be insinuating they always nail it. Because paid scouts have never made bad draft decisions. This might just be a bad decision, paid professionals have made catastrophically bad decisions. If your gonna defend someone who says ppl are drinking koop aid for THEIR opinion then what you say to me means less then doo doo Edited April 27, 2018 by John from Riverside 1
BillsFan692 Posted April 27, 2018 Posted April 27, 2018 6 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: He's the most obvious bust since Jake Locker imo. I said that before we took him and I'm saying that after we took him. When they do a 30 for 30 on the 2018 QB draft class 30 years from now, he's going to be the '83 Todd Blackledge between Elway and Kelly. Other than that, I'll be rooting for him. You just don't know that for sure man he was a highly rated prospect #2 on the board for some... What do you want? They took a shot and they didn't sell the farm
John from Riverside Posted April 27, 2018 Posted April 27, 2018 8 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: He's the most obvious bust since Jake Locker imo. I said that before we took him and I'm saying that after we took him. When they do a 30 for 30 on the 2018 QB draft class 30 years from now, he's going to be the '83 Todd Blackledge between Elway and Kelly. Other than that, I'll be rooting for him. He is not a bust until he actually proves it
MakeBuffaloGreatAgain Posted April 27, 2018 Posted April 27, 2018 I think we will look back at this thread and see a lot of idiots who thought this was a bad pick. And I hope those idiots spend their time lighting themselves on fire and breaking fold up tables and wandering into ravines in winter. Great pick. Go Bills. 3
Ol Dirty B Posted April 27, 2018 Posted April 27, 2018 2 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: If your gonna defend someone who says ppl are drinking koop aid for THEIR opinion then what you say to me means less then doo doo Man I'll just let it go. You just aren't a smart person, John from Riverside. So much of this post shows that.
John from Riverside Posted April 27, 2018 Posted April 27, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Ol Dirty B said: Man I'll just let it go. You just aren't a smart person, John from Riverside. So much of this post shows that. You’re an interesting poster you defend someone for insulting then you insult have another drink Edited April 27, 2018 by John from Riverside
mannc Posted April 27, 2018 Posted April 27, 2018 53 minutes ago, Ol Dirty B said: It reminds of when I was a kid and I'd watch wrestling and Vince McMahon would build something up you wanted then throw a curveball at you at the last second. I felt like devastated 8 year old me all over again. All I could just do is keep dropping f bombs. It worked out better than my wildest dreams, and then bam, the one guy you (just speaking for myself) didn't want is in there at the last second. It really is comical they both were named Josh. What a heel turn. Many thought Allen would be the number 1 overall pick. You have no idea if he will be good or not. Spare me the histrionics and just go root for the Jets.
No Cease Fires Posted April 27, 2018 Posted April 27, 2018 4 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: You’re an interesting poster you defend someone for insulting then you insult have another drink I wasn't insulting anyone. I explained my reasoning.
John from Riverside Posted April 27, 2018 Posted April 27, 2018 12 minutes ago, Hurricane Marv said: I do have this overwhelming feeling that McBeane and company are the overexcited 12 year olds getting completely schooled by the cool kids, but it would have been much worse had the Dolphins taken Rosen. Who exactly are the cool kids
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