Pine Barrens Mafia Posted April 25, 2018 Posted April 25, 2018 I’d rather put mother Theresa out there than mr. 13
Adam727 Posted April 25, 2018 Posted April 25, 2018 I'd rather see the Bills trade down than select either, but I'd rather see them draft Jackson than Allen.
Fadingpain Posted April 25, 2018 Posted April 25, 2018 Did not vote b/c there was no "NEITHER" option, which is clearly an option. If we can't move up and take Darnold/Rosen/Mayfield...I might even support an all out reset, push the QB selection back to a future draft, and then pray to God AJ doesn't totally suck.
FearLess Price Posted April 25, 2018 Posted April 25, 2018 Jackson easy. If he bust as a QB he can be a WR for us, hes a playmaker on foot. 1
maryland-bills-fan Posted April 25, 2018 Posted April 25, 2018 3 hours ago, GreggTX said: As far as arm talent goes, it's not even close. Allen over Jackson all day. I really don't want another inaccurate QB. Allen's also built to take more punishment. Allen's completion rate is 53 and 56 %. I don't know what it was his first two years at Reedly Junior College.
Doc Brown Posted April 25, 2018 Posted April 25, 2018 What gets me is many people have Jackson as a better prospect than Michael Vick who went #1 overall and who knows what kind of career Vick would've had if it wasn't for his affinity for puppy combat. He's had the most prolific college career out of any of the top QB prospects in this draft. Meanwhile, Josh Allen threw for 167.4 yards per game with a 56% completion percentage in the Mountain West Conference. 1
USABuffaloFan Posted April 25, 2018 Posted April 25, 2018 4 hours ago, Awwufelloff said: Who would you rather have if we stay at pick 12? This is assuming we don't trade up and Darnold, Rosen, and Mayfield are gone. LITTON
MJS Posted April 25, 2018 Posted April 25, 2018 Let me think ... Punch to the face or punch to the groin? Though choice.
Thurman#1 Posted April 25, 2018 Posted April 25, 2018 Allen. There's a reason he's generally mocked higher. He's already visibly improved a great deal in his accuracy since the season ended. In any case, I don't see Allen making it to #12. Jackson, maybe.
LeGOATski Posted April 25, 2018 Posted April 25, 2018 1 hour ago, Thurman#1 said: Allen. There's a reason he's generally mocked higher. He's already visibly improved a great deal in his accuracy since the season ended. In any case, I don't see Allen making it to #12. Jackson, maybe. How has he visibly improved? We've only seen him throw passes against air. The big, athletic guys are mocked higher every year, with scouts giving reasons such as "because he's a stud." 1
JM57 Posted April 25, 2018 Posted April 25, 2018 I would sign up for the Lamar Jackson Experience 100/100 times if my choice is between him and Josh Allen. 1
Rochesterfan Posted April 25, 2018 Posted April 25, 2018 9 hours ago, Awwufelloff said: Who would you rather have if we stay at pick 12? This is assuming we don't trade up and Darnold, Rosen, and Mayfield are gone. Neither - Rudolph at 22 or Lauletta/Falk in 2nd
H2o Posted April 25, 2018 Posted April 25, 2018 I think Allen has more upside as a passer. I take Allen.
Thurman#1 Posted April 25, 2018 Posted April 25, 2018 1 hour ago, LeGOATski said: How has he visibly improved? We've only seen him throw passes against air. The big, athletic guys are mocked higher every year, with scouts giving reasons such as "because he's a stud." Yeah, he's visibly improved. If you throw passes against air and you have improved at the Senior Bowl, and then you have further improved at the combine and then you have further improved at your pro day, that's improvement. Visible improvement. No, it's not proof that that will all stick. But yeah, it's a very good sign. Plenty of people never even make that improvement. And that's just not true that big athletic guys are mocked higher every year. Sometimes they are and sometimes they aren't. Mike Vick was 6'0" and he was mocked and drafted #1. Dan Orlovsky was 6'5" and he was ranked behind the 6'4" Alex Smith and the 6'2" Aaron Rodgers. Sean Mannion was 6'6". Remind me, was he mocked above Winston and Mariota? Manziel was mocked higher than Carr, wasn't he? Plenty of times the tall athletic guy IS mocked higher, and then proves to be better. It works both ways.
LeGOATski Posted April 25, 2018 Posted April 25, 2018 2 minutes ago, Thurman#1 said: Yeah, he's visibly improved. If you throw passes against air and you have improved at the Senior Bowl, and then you have further improved at the combine and then you have further improved at your pro day, that's improvement. Visible improvement. No, it's not proof that that will all stick. But yeah, it's a very good sign. Plenty of people never even make that improvement. And that's just not true that big athletic guys are mocked higher every year. Sometimes they are and sometimes they aren't. Mike Vick was 6'0" and he was mocked and drafted #1. Dan Orlovsky was 6'5" and he was ranked behind the 6'4" Alex Smith and the 6'2" Aaron Rodgers. Sean Mannion was 6'6". Remind me, was he mocked above Winston and Mariota? Manziel was mocked higher than Carr, wasn't he? Plenty of times the tall athletic guy IS mocked higher, and then proves to be better. It works both ways. You said a whole lot without saying anything at all. What has he done to improve? He's played pitch and catch. Ran a 40 and jumped in the air. He played a senior bowl and looked almost as good as EJ Manuel. He also threw at a stationary target net that day....and missed it.
gobills1212 Posted April 25, 2018 Posted April 25, 2018 Personally, I'm not a fan of Allen Jackson. Hes got creepy eyes.
Rad Likes The Bills Posted April 25, 2018 Posted April 25, 2018 7 hours ago, Doc Brown said: What gets me is many people have Jackson as a better prospect than Michael Vick who went #1 overall and who knows what kind of career Vick would've had if it wasn't for his affinity for puppy combat. He's had the most prolific college career out of any of the top QB prospects in this draft. Meanwhile, Josh Allen threw for 167.4 yards per game with a 56% completion percentage in the Mountain West Conference. its okay he is going to be wearing red white and blue tmw night! Lamar <3
JM57 Posted April 25, 2018 Posted April 25, 2018 18 minutes ago, gobills1212 said: Personally, I'm not a fan of Allen Jackson. Hes got creepy eyes. Got that strange mustache and mullet combination going on too 1
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