BuffaloRush Posted April 25, 2018 Posted April 25, 2018 (edited) Here is an interesting write-up from Sal Capaccio who mentions that Rudolph might be a QB that the Bills are considering. It’s been very quiet over the past few days and that leads to be believe that they might be waiting to see how the board falls with the big 4 QB’s before making a move to trade up to see. The risk there is when you wait, it opens the window for a team to leapfrog over you - almost like how the Jets jumped to #3. I think there’s an excellent that Rudolph is the pick at #12. I would be disappointed if this happens. If Rudolph was the guy the whole time, the Bills never should have traded up to 12. http://www.wgr550.com/articles/opinion/capaccio-rudolph-shouldnt-be-forgotten-man-bills-qb-mix Edited April 25, 2018 by BuffaloRush 1
GunnerBill Posted April 25, 2018 Posted April 25, 2018 Not at 12, no. I'd get myself the impact defensive player that remains. At 22 yes I'd take Rudolph over Jackson. 1
oldmanfan Posted April 25, 2018 Posted April 25, 2018 Haha. Yes. Everybody with a TV thinks he's an expert around here. Not one guy out there is flawless. They all have positives and negatives. As Beane said, itvdepends which flaws you can live with, and he is in a better position to judge than anyone here. For all these guys, it's a 50:50 proposition. And it comes down to whether they can handle the speed and complexity of the NFL. And you won't know until they try. 1
17 Josh Allen Posted April 25, 2018 Posted April 25, 2018 Yes I’m ok with Rudolph and Lamar Jackson. if we don’t get one of the top 4. Have a fun draft everybody. 1
OldTimer1960 Posted April 25, 2018 Posted April 25, 2018 I think Rudolph could become a good NFL starter. I would be happy with them selecting him, though I would hope that they could do it a shade later than 12, but not sure they can wait till 22 if they want him. 2
26CornerBlitz Posted April 25, 2018 Posted April 25, 2018 No. He doesn't look like a franchise QB capable of carrying a team. Not a 1st round prospect. 1
Kirby Jackson Posted April 25, 2018 Posted April 25, 2018 (edited) Rudolph, to me, will feel like when we took Losman. He was clearly a tier below the top guys but we were dead set on a QB so we took one in the 20’s. I’d be fine in the 2nd but wouldn’t love him at 22. With that being said we really have no idea which of these guys will end up good. History says that some will and some won’t. I really don’t care who the Bills get as long as he ends up good. I am confident in the amount of time that Beane & co. has invested in this decision. Edited April 25, 2018 by Kirby Jackson 3
LeGOATski Posted April 25, 2018 Posted April 25, 2018 Yeah. Trade back to 16 and grab Rudolph. Then draft Robert Woods and Kiko Alonso in the 2nd. 1
PIZ Posted April 25, 2018 Posted April 25, 2018 Sure hope we can trade up. I like Rudolph, but all of the experts seem to think he's a backup caliber talent. That won't cut it. We need a franchise QB.
Buffalo_Stampede Posted April 25, 2018 Posted April 25, 2018 Not as a franchise QB. As a developmental QB, sure. Big difference though.
H2o Posted April 25, 2018 Posted April 25, 2018 Nope. Rudolph's ceiling is Andy Dalton imo. His floor however is a middling backup type. We need to get Mayfield or Rosen and be done with it.
Doc Brown Posted April 25, 2018 Posted April 25, 2018 If all those QB's are gone (including Jackson) by #12, I'd just take non qb's for the first three rounds and then take a flyer on a QB late in the draft. I don't want that to happen, but I'm not a Rudolph fan. It would be unpopular to take a "wait until next year" approach before picking your franchise QB, but in that situation you mine as well fill as many holes on your roster besides QB that you can. Let's hope it doesn't come to that and the Bills move up and get the guy they want.
billsredneck1 Posted April 25, 2018 Posted April 25, 2018 22 minutes ago, BuffaloRush said: Here is an interesting write-up from Sal Capaccio who mentions that Rudolph might be a QB that the Bills are considering. It’s been very quiet over the past few days and that leads to be believe that they might be waiting to see how the board falls with the big 4 QB’s before making a move to trade up to see. The risk there is when you wait, it opens the window for a team to leapfrog over you - almost like how the Jets jumped to #3. I think there’s an excellent that Rudolph is the pick at #12. I would be disappointed if this happens. If Rudolph was the guy the whole time, the Bills never should have traded up to 12. http://www.wgr550.com/articles/opinion/capaccio-rudolph-shouldnt-be-forgotten-man-bills-qb-mix the bills didn't trade cordy to move up. it was the compensation vs. a pick. also, they may end up having to trade spots with oakland just to get rudolph. i personally don't get the knocks on him. his body of work is second to no one except mayfield. i've said it before, i think he can have a peyton manning type of career.
formerlyofCtown Posted April 25, 2018 Posted April 25, 2018 25 minutes ago, BuffaloRush said: Here is an interesting write-up from Sal Capaccio who mentions that Rudolph might be a QB that the Bills are considering. It’s been very quiet over the past few days and that leads to be believe that they might be waiting to see how the board falls with the big 4 QB’s before making a move to trade up to see. The risk there is when you wait, it opens the window for a team to leapfrog over you - almost like how the Jets jumped to #3. I think there’s an excellent that Rudolph is the pick at #12. I would be disappointed if this happens. If Rudolph was the guy the whole time, the Bills never should have traded up to 12. http://www.wgr550.com/articles/opinion/capaccio-rudolph-shouldnt-be-forgotten-man-bills-qb-mix Unless they... A-are not targeting a QB with that pick. B-plan on trading down from 12 and possibly up from 22.
26CornerBlitz Posted April 25, 2018 Posted April 25, 2018 I would view the accumulation of an arsenal full of draft capital only to walk away with Mason Rudolph as our 1st round QB as a failure. 2 1
racketmaster Posted April 25, 2018 Posted April 25, 2018 Yes, but would prefer at 22. I think Rudolph is very underrated. He does some things in the pocket (sliding and stepping up) better than the other top qbs. Smart, competitive, mature, nice deep ball and has solid accuracy. The one problem I have is his lack of velocity on sideline routes. For a guy that is big and can throw the deep ball, his sideline velocity does not match up. Throws well over the middle on both short and intermediate routes. Maybe there is some mechanical fix to the sideline throws. There are times he gets it there but just too many instances where there is no juice.
oldmanfan Posted April 25, 2018 Posted April 25, 2018 So they draft Rudolph and he becomes the starter. Say they take him st 22, Smith at 11 and he's an All Pro MLB. Get a lineman in round 2 that's All Pro. And with that influx of talent plus FAs next year they win a Lombardi in '20. I call that a success. Anyone here can make up any story to fit their bias. 2
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