Mij yllek Posted April 25, 2018 Posted April 25, 2018 https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/2018-nfl-draft-forget-the-scouts-these-are-the-top-19-quarterbacks-available/ 1
sullim4 Posted April 25, 2018 Posted April 25, 2018 On his 2017 list, Peterman was #4 and Chad Kelly was #5. Enough said. 3
jrober38 Posted April 25, 2018 Posted April 25, 2018 The Browns should take Mayfield #1 overall. Too many of these advanced analytics say he's going to be a really good pro. I also hope we figure out how to move up to #2 overall so he doesn't wind up on the Jets. Him going there and us winding up with Josh Allen is my nightmare. 1
Bills Freak Posted April 25, 2018 Posted April 25, 2018 He has Luke Falk rated ahead of Rosen, Allen, Jackson & Rudolph. What's he smokin' ? 1
Paul Costa Posted April 25, 2018 Posted April 25, 2018 14 minutes ago, Wilton Bills said: Cocaine is a hell of a drug. ?????
zonabb Posted April 25, 2018 Posted April 25, 2018 This is the problem with today's big data mentality and the thought that we can predict anything with a simple model. Having taken my share of stats courses and someone who believes heavily (and relies on) in quantitative methods, I never look at the method and stats (or as dweebs like Jeremy White refer to them, to try to make themselves appear smart...analytics). It's simple for me.... the massive amounts of measures of individuals do nothing to predict team wins. And when guys like try to do something, get garbage results, and then keep publishing them, it's tie to ignore. I assume since he said he's trying to find a "correlation" that he's using a multiple regression model. The reason he has no significant results, and never will, is he's using college data that does not take into account the critical other variables that will determine the QB's success... coaching, quality of players around him, system, intelligence, hardwork, etc.... many qualitative points he's not measuring, and dweebs like Schopp poo poo, especially anything related to human and sports psychology (like momentum isn't a thing.. it is even if they haven't figured out how to measure it). So it's bunk, never read it again!
BadLandsMeanie Posted April 25, 2018 Posted April 25, 2018 Sam's mom is a little goofy. A lot of these Qbs have family tagging along to get some of the limelight. Its kind of awkward to me.
Batman1876 Posted April 25, 2018 Posted April 25, 2018 4 minutes ago, zonabb said: This is the problem with today's big data mentality and the thought that we can predict anything with a simple model. Having taken my share of stats courses and someone who believes heavily (and relies on) in quantitative methods, I never look at the method and stats (or as dweebs like Jeremy White refer to them, to try to make themselves appear smart...analytics). It's simple for me.... the massive amounts of measures of individuals do nothing to predict team wins. And when guys like try to do something, get garbage results, and then keep publishing them, it's tie to ignore. I assume since he said he's trying to find a "correlation" that he's using a multiple regression model. The reason he has no significant results, and never will, is he's using college data that does not take into account the critical other variables that will determine the QB's success... coaching, quality of players around him, system, intelligence, hardwork, etc.... many qualitative points he's not measuring, and dweebs like Schopp poo poo, especially anything related to human and sports psychology (like momentum isn't a thing.. it is even if they haven't figured out how to measure it). So it's bunk, never read it again! Mayfield and Allen will provide interesting data points for the advanced statistics crowd.
17 Josh Allen Posted April 25, 2018 Posted April 25, 2018 4 minutes ago, TheTruthHurts said: You can't draft a QB based on stats. totally 100 percent agree with this statement
formerlyofCtown Posted April 25, 2018 Posted April 25, 2018 1 hour ago, jrober38 said: The Browns should take Mayfield #1 overall. Too many of these advanced analytics say he's going to be a really good pro. I also hope we figure out how to move up to #2 overall so he doesn't wind up on the Jets. Him going there and us winding up with Josh Allen is my nightmare. I would rather have Mayfield because he is my #1 QB. Allen is my number 2.
jrober38 Posted April 25, 2018 Posted April 25, 2018 Just now, formerlyofCtown said: I would rather have Mayfield because he is my #1 QB. Allen is my number 2. I wouldn't draft Josh Allen before the 4th round.
3rdand12 Posted April 25, 2018 Posted April 25, 2018 1 hour ago, Wilton Bills said: Cocaine is a hell of a drug. never tried it. Pm me 34 minutes ago, Thurmanator 12074 said: totally 100 percent agree with this statement whats the + - on this %. degree of error 3 minutes ago, jrober38 said: I wouldn't draft Josh Allen before the 4th round. uh oh. some one is going to though. maybe by the 4th pick even
Saxum Posted April 25, 2018 Posted April 25, 2018 1 hour ago, Mij yllek said: https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/2018-nfl-draft-forget-the-scouts-these-are-the-top-19-quarterbacks-available/ Most important quote: I think the comparisons will be more accurate when it comes to the number of QBs taken in the first round, not on how their careers turn out. To me, that's more a reflection of the desperation to find a QB than the QBs available to be taken. 1 hour ago, Wilton Bills said: Cocaine is a hell of a drug. Yes and testing should be done before you posters post.
LeGOATski Posted April 25, 2018 Posted April 25, 2018 How is this even publishable? He basically discredits his own "analysis." What was the point?
MJS Posted April 25, 2018 Posted April 25, 2018 44 minutes ago, LeGOATski said: How is this even publishable? He basically discredits his own "analysis." What was the point? It is definitely a head scratcher.
formerlyofCtown Posted April 25, 2018 Posted April 25, 2018 8 hours ago, jrober38 said: I wouldn't draft Josh Allen before the 4th round. Me and most of the NFL disagree with you but I have read that some teams feel the same.
billsredneck1 Posted April 25, 2018 Posted April 25, 2018 10 hours ago, Bills Freak said: He has Luke Falk rated ahead of Rosen, Allen, Jackson & Rudolph. What's he smokin' ? read the last paragraph.
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