Mr. ChumChums Posted April 24, 2018 Author Posted April 24, 2018 1 minute ago, C.Biscuit97 said: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/hue-jackson-reportedly-wanted-carson-wentz-browns-didnt-think-hed-be-a-top-qb/amp/ check your sources. Also, Goff was good last year too and he definitely wanted Watson last year. That’s why he is still there. He was right and got overruled by guys trying to tank (which is why the new GM has a very easy job now). To be fair, it's reported that Hue has multiple media outlets that he leaks info to (which is the whole basis of the tweet in the first post), so it could just be a case of hindsight correction. I assume Peter King is one of them - the others, harder to guess maybe? At the end of the day, I would take everything (even my own opening post) with a grain of salt. But still, fun to speculate!
YoloinOhio Posted April 24, 2018 Posted April 24, 2018 Same ownership, same Browns. Haslam is to blame for not letting Dorsey fire Hue. 1 1
Big Gun Posted April 24, 2018 Posted April 24, 2018 (edited) 34 minutes ago, Mr. ChumChums said: Hahaha, and people think the Browns will have more wins than the Bills this year. That's funny. Edited April 24, 2018 by PeterGriffin
Coach Tuesday Posted April 24, 2018 Posted April 24, 2018 This has been a thing with Hue since his days in Oakland. He's a talker and a BS artist.
cle23 Posted April 24, 2018 Posted April 24, 2018 7 minutes ago, Mr. ChumChums said: To be fair, it's reported that Hue has multiple media outlets that he leaks info to (which is the whole basis of the tweet in the first post), so it could just be a case of hindsight correction. I assume Peter King is one of them - the others, harder to guess maybe? At the end of the day, I would take everything (even my own opening post) with a grain of salt. But still, fun to speculate! Yeah, leading up to the draft it was reported over and over th at Jackson loved Goff but wasn't sold on Wentz. When St. Louis traded up for Goff, Cleveland traded down. Mike Silver is good buddies with Jackson too and it's rumored Jackson leaks stuff to him and others a lot.
Mr. WEO Posted April 24, 2018 Posted April 24, 2018 (edited) 24 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: Hue also wanted to draft Wentz and Watson. Funny that the offensive coach wanted to get a qb. Sure he did..... I posted this a few months ago:http://www.crainscleveland.com/article/20171204/blogs06/144476/hue-jackson-preferred-carson-wentz-all-along-or-was-it-jared-goff-or "What coach wouldn't want Wentz at this point? Better yet, what coach would want it known that he DIDN'T WANT WENTZ at this point? Jackson clearly wants us to believe that he doesn't fall into the latter category, even if all of the reporting prior to Sunday — most of it from the NFL Network's Mike Silver, a close friend of Jackson — said that Jackson was on board with the Browns passing on Wentz, and that he preferred Goff." "After the Browns' debacle of a Halloween, when they failed to execute a trade for Bengals backup A.J. McCarron, Silver tweeted that the two QBs Jackson "has wanted most since taking over are Goff and Garoppolo." (A day before the Browns were willing to give up second- and third-round picks for McCarron, whom Jackson coached in Cincinnati, the 49ers acquired Jimmy Garoppolo from the Patriots for a second-round pick.)" "In that piece, Silver said Jackson "was blown away" (there's that description again) by Robert Griffin III's workout with the Browns, and thus the coach "became less desperate to draft Goff." "Also in that story, Silver wrote that "neither Jackson nor Brown were as convinced about Wentz, nor was Brown's analytics team (chief strategy officer Paul DePodesta said publicly the Browns didn't believe he was a "top 20" quarterback)." Here's the best (and all you need about Hue's grasp on the QB spot (and how his "media mouthpieces" are full of crap): That piece had a quote from Jackson on Griffin's now-infamous workout with the Browns. Let's just say it's one the coach would probably like to have back. "Other than Carson Palmer coming out of SC, this might have been the best quarterback workout I've ever seen," Jackson said in the story. "I mean, it was phenomenal." So...Hue didn't want Wentz. He wanted Goff, until he saw RG3 and figured they din't need Goff. This guy's current employment can only be chalked up to the serial incompetence of the Browns FO. 15 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/hue-jackson-reportedly-wanted-carson-wentz-browns-didnt-think-hed-be-a-top-qb/amp/ check your sources. Also, Goff was good last year too and he definitely wanted Watson last year. That’s why he is still there. He was right and got overruled by guys trying to tank (which is why the new GM has a very easy job now). Nope. See above. Edited April 24, 2018 by Mr. WEO 2
Mr. ChumChums Posted April 24, 2018 Author Posted April 24, 2018 12 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: Nope. See above. Thanks for posting all of that. Hilarious to see! 1
BadLandsMeanie Posted April 24, 2018 Posted April 24, 2018 48 minutes ago, Mr. ChumChums said: Ironically, when you read the original post he is talking about, the writer did in fact, just make it up! Josh Norris says the Browns didn't tell the media who they are taking at one, which means Jackson doesn't know, because he says Jackson would have told. There is not a fact or even a secret source. he just literally made it up. And it gets reported as news. 1
TheFunPolice Posted April 24, 2018 Posted April 24, 2018 Hue has now come out and said that he LOVED Brady back in his draft, and would have taken him in the 4th round, but was over ruled.
BillsFan4 Posted April 24, 2018 Posted April 24, 2018 Just now, thenorthremembers said: I still dont know why he wasnt fired after last season. You could tell Dorsey wanted him gone when he took over. Owner Jimmy Haslam would not allow it.
C.Biscuit97 Posted April 24, 2018 Posted April 24, 2018 17 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: Sure he did..... I posted this a few months ago:http://www.crainscleveland.com/article/20171204/blogs06/144476/hue-jackson-preferred-carson-wentz-all-along-or-was-it-jared-goff-or "What coach wouldn't want Wentz at this point? Better yet, what coach would want it known that he DIDN'T WANT WENTZ at this point? Jackson clearly wants us to believe that he doesn't fall into the latter category, even if all of the reporting prior to Sunday — most of it from the NFL Network's Mike Silver, a close friend of Jackson — said that Jackson was on board with the Browns passing on Wentz, and that he preferred Goff." "After the Browns' debacle of a Halloween, when they failed to execute a trade for Bengals backup A.J. McCarron, Silver tweeted that the two QBs Jackson "has wanted most since taking over are Goff and Garoppolo." (A day before the Browns were willing to give up second- and third-round picks for McCarron, whom Jackson coached in Cincinnati, the 49ers acquired Jimmy Garoppolo from the Patriots for a second-round pick.)" "In that piece, Silver said Jackson "was blown away" (there's that description again) by Robert Griffin III's workout with the Browns, and thus the coach "became less desperate to draft Goff." "Also in that story, Silver wrote that "neither Jackson nor Brown were as convinced about Wentz, nor was Brown's analytics team (chief strategy officer Paul DePodesta said publicly the Browns didn't believe he was a "top 20" quarterback)." Here's the best (and all you need about Hue's grasp on the QB spot (and how his "media mouthpieces" are full of crap): That piece had a quote from Jackson on Griffin's now-infamous workout with the Browns. Let's just say it's one the coach would probably like to have back. "Other than Carson Palmer coming out of SC, this might have been the best quarterback workout I've ever seen," Jackson said in the story. "I mean, it was phenomenal." So...Hue didn't want Wentz. He wanted Goff, until he saw RG3 and figured they din't need Goff. This guy's current employment can only be chalked up to the serial incompetence of the Browns FO. Nope. See above. It’s fine. You believe your link, I’ll believe mine. And even IF yours is closer to the truth, what a loser Jackson is for “settling” for a 2nd year qb who threw 28 tds to 7 ints for the highest scoring team in the nfl. What an idiot!!!
Mr. ChumChums Posted April 24, 2018 Author Posted April 24, 2018 5 minutes ago, BadLandsMeanie said: Ironically, when you read the original post he is talking about, the writer did in fact, just make it up! Josh Norris says the Browns didn't tell the media who they are taking at one, which means Jackson doesn't know, because he says Jackson would have told. There is not a fact or even a secret source. he just literally made it up. And it gets reported as news. I wouldn't say that he just made it up, but rather drew a conclusion based on empirical evidence. There are 2 points that we can draw this from: 1. Hue has a history of leaking to the media, and has a few known mouthpieces 2. Media has no clue who the Browns are taking Hence, Hue doesn't know. I'm totally simplifying it, and drawing my own conclusions, but take that for what it's worth.
TheFunPolice Posted April 24, 2018 Posted April 24, 2018 BREAKING NEWS: Browns owner Jimmy Haslam and GM Dorsey have been relieved of their duties this morning by head coach Hue Jackson. Jackson has called a press conference for 3PM EST to explain his shocking decision, so close to the draft... 2
whatdrought Posted April 24, 2018 Posted April 24, 2018 Jackson has to make the playoffs if he even wants to have a chance to keep his job... 56 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said: I still dont know why he wasnt fired after last season. You could tell Dorsey wanted him gone when he took over. I saw a compelling argument somewhere that made the case that keeping Hue acted as a safetynet for Dorseys first year and allowed a scapegoat like the colts did with Ballard and Pagano.
YoloinOhio Posted April 24, 2018 Posted April 24, 2018 2 minutes ago, whatdrought said: Jackson has to make the playoffs if he even wants to have a chance to keep his job... [checks Browns schedule] hes 0-4 and fired by October
cle23 Posted April 24, 2018 Posted April 24, 2018 5 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: It’s fine. You believe your link, I’ll believe mine. And even IF yours is closer to the truth, what a loser Jackson is for “settling” for a 2nd year qb who threw 28 tds to 7 ints for the highest scoring team in the nfl. What an idiot!!! Browns RG3 was nowhere near Redskins rookie RG3. He had been figured out long before that. 1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said: [checks Browns schedule] hes 0-4 and fired by October Come on, we play the Jets week 3!
Mat68 Posted April 24, 2018 Posted April 24, 2018 From everything I hear thisis pretty standard. Dorsey wont let his intentions known til Wed night to Haslam and Thursday morning the team. I expect Beane to be similar. I think Beane and Mcdermott have similar trains of thought but Beane will finally say what his plan is to Terry Kim and Mcdermott.
Hapless Bills Fan Posted April 24, 2018 Posted April 24, 2018 Just now, Bleedingreennc said: Tells me that Darnold will be their pick. ???
Bleedingreennc Posted April 24, 2018 Posted April 24, 2018 3 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: ??? The owner was with Darnolds family at his pro day, Haslam will have Dorseys ear the entire time, and thats who he is going to want to draft.
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