MAJBobby Posted April 23, 2018 Posted April 23, 2018 Just now, BuffaloMatt said: NO. You know it all. I'm sorry I veiled my point. Let me make it clear. These picks are nothing but educated guesses. Some pan out some don't. BUT you have already deemed this draft a failure if this or that doesn't happen. Did I???? Or Did i call OBD a Failure? For not being able yo finish their year long plan?
Putin Posted April 23, 2018 Posted April 23, 2018 17 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: If they dont come away from Thursday without Rosen, Darnold, Mayfield (Maybe Allen). They failed. And Seat starts getting hot Reeeeeeeeeeeeally ?? And what if the target was Mason Rudolph all along ? And the move to # 12 was for a stud LB or DT ? ( Generally speaking) People make some ridiculous statements based on their own opinions ( NOT facts ) and if do not agree ( I’m pretty sure you know where I’m going with that ) 2
Dr. Who Posted April 23, 2018 Posted April 23, 2018 Just now, BuffaloMatt said: NO. You know it all. I'm sorry I veiled my point. Let me make it clear. These picks are nothing but educated guesses. Some pan out some don't. BUT you have already deemed this draft a failure if this or that doesn't happen. They passed on Watson and Mahomes, traded players to acquire draft capital for an unusually deep draft for qb at the top. It sure as hell is a failure if they get frozen out on a top qb prospect.
John from Riverside Posted April 23, 2018 Posted April 23, 2018 10 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: And with every Pick Risk that you are getting shut out more and morr Bobby....they are not all gonna get picked one right after the other at the top of the draft there are other good prospects at other positions. Yes......if we dont come away with a top prospect it will be dissapointing....... but Like I said.....I think Lamar Jackson is an excellent plan B. He is not my top choice....but hey its the draft. 11 minutes ago, BuffAlone said: I hear that. BUT, do you want #4? Or do you want your guy? Huge difference What if they like more then one guy?
MAJBobby Posted April 23, 2018 Posted April 23, 2018 2 minutes ago, Putin said: Reeeeeeeeeeeeally ?? And what if the target was Mason Rudolph all along ? And the move to # 12 was for a stud LB or DT ? ( Generally speaking) People make some ridiculous statements based on their own opinions ( NOT facts ) and if do not agree ( I’m pretty sure you know where I’m going with that ) Sure in 2018 draft lets pass on these guys for Mason Rudolph. I am sure that was the conversation 3 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: Bobby....they are not all gonna get picked one right after the other at the top of the draft there are other good prospects at other positions. Yes......if we dont come away with a top prospect it will be dissapointing....... but Like I said.....I think Lamar Jackson is an excellent plan B. He is not my top choice....but hey its the draft. What if they like more then one guy? I get what you are saying. All i am pointing out is if you cant get one of the top 3 then a plan this front office put in place last year is a failure 5 minutes ago, Dr. Who said: They passed on Watson and Mahomes, traded players to acquire draft capital for an unusually deep draft for qb at the top. It sure as hell is a failure if they get frozen out on a top qb prospect. There we go someone understands
RalphWilson'sNewWar Posted April 23, 2018 Posted April 23, 2018 I do not feel Brandon Beane has done a good job of calming the fan base when it comes to QBs. With quotes like, “QB LEAGUE” or “Finding Franchise QB is GM #1 Job.” If anything he is purposely not calmed it due to confidence that they will get a QB. or he has inadvertently not calmed it due to ignorance.
SouthNYfan Posted April 23, 2018 Posted April 23, 2018 40 minutes ago, kdiggz said: The only way we get to 2 is by trading up to 4-6 before the draft Just said this in another thread lol
John from Riverside Posted April 23, 2018 Posted April 23, 2018 3 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Sure in 2018 draft lets pass on these guys for Mason Rudolph. I am sure that was the conversation I get what you are saying. All i am pointing out is if you cant get one of the top 3 then a plan this front office put in place last year is a failure I think it is fair to say that the PLAN would be a failure.....the fact that the plan failed would not take into account variables like someone offering more, a team not wanting to trade, etc. but I think there is a difference in the QB draft plan failing and the draft itself being a failure. Lets take what some here consider the absolute worst case scenario...... - None of the top 3 drop to 5 - We cant get a trade partner - We take Lamar Jackson at 12....who is being eyed by the Cards at 15 anyway - We keep our picks....and draft difference makers at LB, OL, WR - Lamar spends a year holding a clipboard - AJM and Lamar duke it out the following year - AJM actually turns out to be a solid starter....Lamar ends up not being Tom Brady......but settles in around the Russell Wilson, Watson, type QB in the NFL - The team is loaded with talent and ends up making consecutive playoffs.....becoming a real contender At the end of the day...in that scenario.....would the DRAFT end up being a failure....i would so no we didnt get what we wanted but we got what we NEEDED. Now...that said....give me Rosen please. 3
TheFunPolice Posted April 23, 2018 Posted April 23, 2018 Last year AND this year you have the management and ownership dining with QBs, talking to QBs and the fans talking about nothing but QB. They are drafting a QB. Sadly, last year might have actually been a much better spot to take your QB with Watson and Mahomes just sitting there. For whatever reason I think you need to be in the top 5-6 picks to have a shot at one of the top 4 this time around. They are just going to have to pay the price.
Putin Posted April 23, 2018 Posted April 23, 2018 Just now, MAJBobby said: Sure in 2018 draft lets pass on these guys for Mason Rudolph. I am sure that was the conversation Just now, MAJBobby said: Sure in 2018 draft lets pass on these guys for Mason Rudolph. I am sure that was the conversation IMO I see Rosen as a HUGE BUST , I’m not 100% sold on Darnold as well , MY choice was , and still is Mayfield , he’s the only one I would be willing to give up 2 - 1st and what ever else it takes , im not an expert nor do I pretend to be , I’m simply stating my opinion, but I will support who ever it is that we decide to go with in the draft , I maybe disappointed ( YES ) but I will leave my pitchfork in the closet ( for now )
TheFunPolice Posted April 23, 2018 Posted April 23, 2018 Gettleman sounds like a GM from the 1970's. In fairness, he might have actually been a GM back in 1970. 1
MAJBobby Posted April 23, 2018 Posted April 23, 2018 1 minute ago, HappyDays said: You can only dance if you have a partner Yeah should have went to 3. 1
CNYfan Posted April 23, 2018 Posted April 23, 2018 I think that the Colt's and the Bronco's have to measure their love for R. Smith and Quentin Nelson against the opportunities that additional draft slots offer. And the Bills have to measure their love for the remaining QB's against the bounty demanded for missing those studs by the 5 and 6 teams. So it will not be cheap to get up there to 5 or 6, but one would presume that once Chubb, Barkley, Smith and Nelson are off the Board and with the depth at CB in the pool, that starting with #7 there could be some action for whoever is remaining of the Big 3 (or 4 or 5 depending ) QB's. But that is just what I am thinking at this point. 1
BuffAlone Posted April 23, 2018 Posted April 23, 2018 10 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: Bobby....they are not all gonna get picked one right after the other at the top of the draft there are other good prospects at other positions. Yes......if we dont come away with a top prospect it will be dissapointing....... but Like I said.....I think Lamar Jackson is an excellent plan B. He is not my top choice....but hey its the draft. What if they like more then one guy? I expect that's the case. But, zero chance we move up for Jackson...or Allen. We gotta bid high, or fold. Or settle for our money back. I hope Beane goes all in. This is the time. Personally, Rosen, Darnold, or defense for me. Otherwise we're just slinging monies hoping to buy in
Skins Malone Posted April 23, 2018 Posted April 23, 2018 I just posted in another thread that this is my dream scenario.
HappyDays Posted April 23, 2018 Posted April 23, 2018 (edited) 3 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Yeah should have went to 3. The Colts GM publicly said they didn't want to trade out of the top 10. Nothing we could do. I'm not sure it matters anyways, more and more it's looking like we can have Rosen at 5 or lower. Edited April 23, 2018 by HappyDays
BuffAlone Posted April 23, 2018 Posted April 23, 2018 1 minute ago, HappyDays said: The Colts GM on record said they didn't want to trade out of the top 10. Nothing we could do. I'm not sure it matters anyways, more and more it's looking like we can have Rosen at 5 or lower. Gotta know when to hold em, know when to fold em. I think Beane knows this
Putin Posted April 23, 2018 Posted April 23, 2018 4 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: I think it is fair to say that the PLAN would be a failure.....the fact that the plan failed would not take into account variables like someone offering more, a team not wanting to trade, etc. but I think there is a difference in the QB draft plan failing and the draft itself being a failure. Lets take what some here consider the absolute worst case scenario...... - None of the top 3 drop to 5 - We cant get a trade partner - We take Lamar Jackson at 12....who is being eyed by the Cards at 15 anyway - We keep our picks....and draft difference makers at LB, OL, WR - Lamar spends a year holding a clipboard - AJM and Lamar duke it out the following year - AJM actually turns out to be a solid starter....Lamar ends up not being Tom Brady......but settles in around the Russell Wilson, Watson, type QB in the NFL - The team is loaded with talent and ends up making consecutive playoffs.....becoming a real contender At the end of the day...in that scenario.....would the DRAFT end up being a failure....i would so no we didnt get what we wanted but we got what we NEEDED. Now...that said....give me Rosen please. I liked/agree with everything you said except the Rosen part !!! 2
BillsSbSoon Posted April 23, 2018 Posted April 23, 2018 (edited) We cant rely on denver. Is anyone really sold elway wont take a qb? Hes not hitching the future to case keenum lets be real. 2,4, or 6 are our options Edited April 23, 2018 by BillsSbSoon
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