26CornerBlitz Posted April 24, 2018 Author Posted April 24, 2018 BILLS TODAY: BEANE PREPARES FOR QB-HYPED DRAFT Here's the Bills news of note for April 24th.
CommonCents Posted April 24, 2018 Posted April 24, 2018 (edited) 5 hours ago, purple haze said: Why is that disturbing? What business do you know of where the owner has no involvement or say in the product that they put forward and pay money for? Name another team that has two owners in the draft room both of whom have a say in who gets picked. The search won’t take too long. Bring in a couple extra chairs let the kids voice their opinions too. I was hoping they would take a backseat after the Rex and Rob circus. Edited April 24, 2018 by Commonsense
GG Posted April 24, 2018 Posted April 24, 2018 (edited) 9 hours ago, 4merper4mer said: After the Colts trade with the Jets they stated that they wanted to stay top 10. If that changed weeks later Beane's options are limited to his ability to create a time machine. waaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhh! That's how I'm reading it, especially with the stories coming out that Ballard is NOW more comfortable in trading down again. PS - if you're looking at it from Colts' perspective, trading down again will net you far more value than if they had done a deal only with Buffalo Edited April 24, 2018 by GG
Homey D. Clown Posted April 24, 2018 Posted April 24, 2018 19 hours ago, Boatdrinks said: You are clairvoyant then ? We know the Bills need a QB. How do you know which QBs will pan out and which won't? Shouldn't you be on an NFL FO staff ? Make a career out of picking lottery numbers etc. Wow, attacking my personal view. You must feel so proud of yourself for such a clever reply. One question though... I was unaware that I needed to apply for a job for an NFL front office position to pick lottery numbers, I guess I was doing it wrong this whole time, do you have an application I can borrow?
Lurker Posted April 24, 2018 Posted April 24, 2018 47 minutes ago, Commonsense said: Name another team that has two owners in the draft room both of whom have a say in who gets picked. The search won’t take too long. Bring in a couple extra chairs let the kids voice their opinions too. I was hoping they would take a backseat after the Rex and Rob circus. Smh. A seat at the table is just what it implies--the Pegula's get a front row seat in the war room to listen in in real time as the pick is discussed and made by McBeane and Company. That's a perk no owner is likely to turn down or, in fact, not have offered to them by the front office...
CommonCents Posted April 24, 2018 Posted April 24, 2018 1 minute ago, Lurker said: Smh. A seat at the table is just what it implies--the Pegula's get a front row seat in the war room to listen in in real time as the pick is discussed and made by McBeane and Company. That's a perk no owner is likely to turn down or, in fact, not have offered to them by the front office... “Who’s got a seat at the table, who can speak” That was the direct quote. Explain to me how that excludes the Pegula’s from having a say?
oldmanfan Posted April 24, 2018 Posted April 24, 2018 54 minutes ago, Commonsense said: Name another team that has two owners in the draft room both of whom have a say in who gets picked. The search won’t take too long. Bring in a couple extra chairs let the kids voice their opinions too. I was hoping they would take a backseat after the Rex and Rob circus. Name another team with two owners. Then find any team where the owner isn't in the room. You won't find the latter. Because they own the team.
CommonCents Posted April 24, 2018 Posted April 24, 2018 (edited) 5 minutes ago, oldmanfan said: Name another team with two owners. Then find any team where the owner isn't in the room. You won't find the latter. Because they own the team. You made the point for me. Jerry Jones got so much flack for being hands on until things turned around. The Bills have a married couple who both want to be involved. I don’t think it’s an insult for fans to want the football guys doing the football side of things. How did you like Kim and Terry’s handling of the Rex Ryan hire? Perhaps they should have handed that decision off to someone else? They own it, they can do it! Right. That doesn’t mean it’s the recipe for success. Put up a poll I would assure you that the overwhelming majority of fans want Beane making the decisions so he sinks or floats on his own. No one wants another who’s doing what scenario playing out again in another year or so. (Except the Buffalo News) Edited April 24, 2018 by Commonsense
Lurker Posted April 24, 2018 Posted April 24, 2018 3 minutes ago, Commonsense said: “Who’s got a seat at the table, who can speak” That was the direct quote. Explain to me how that excludes the Pegula’s from having a say? As in, ask questions and see how their staff is preparing for the biggest day in their ownership history? I'm sure it's not "Yeah, Terry you sit in the corner and stfu while the adults do their work. And Kim, honey, can you run down and make a new pot of coffee?"
oldmanfan Posted April 24, 2018 Posted April 24, 2018 5 minutes ago, Commonsense said: You made the point for me. Jerry Jones got so much flack for being hands on until things turned around. The Bills have a married couple who both want to be involved. I don’t think it’s an insult for fans to want the football guys doing the football side of things. How did you like Kim and Terry’s handling of the Rex Ryan hire? Perhaps they should have handed that decision off to someone else? They own it, they can do it! Right. That doesn’t mean it’s the recipe for success. Put up a poll I would assure you that the overwhelming majority of fans want Beane making the decisions so he sinks or floats on his own. No one wants another who’s doing what scenario playing out again in another year or so. (Except the Buffalo News) The Pegulas are not running the draft and to insinuate that is absurd. Look at your user name, then use some. 1
CommonCents Posted April 24, 2018 Posted April 24, 2018 6 minutes ago, oldmanfan said: The Pegulas are not running the draft and to insinuate that is absurd. Look at your user name, then use some. Look at Beane’s quote. That insinuates that they have a say, does it not? Where did I or anyone else insinuate the Pegula’s are running the draft? Honest conversation is good conversation, exaggerating in an attempt to prove a point is wife material.
oldmanfan Posted April 24, 2018 Posted April 24, 2018 5 minutes ago, Commonsense said: Look at Beane’s quote. That insinuates that they have a say, does it not? Where did I or anyone else insinuate the Pegula’s are running the draft? Honest conversation is good conversation, exaggerating in an attempt to prove a point is wife material. You insinuate it when you say you want football people handling football things. When he says they have a say it does not mean they are picking the guys. Just that they get to nod their heads and say great. As for Ryan, is there any other team in any professional sport that you know of where the owner does not make the final call on the HC? They did, they were wrong, they fired him, then hired a coach that got their team to the playoffs. Relax. Beane and McDermott are running the football part of the Bills enterprise. The owners have said it, Brandon has said it. Unless you think they're lying.
CommonCents Posted April 24, 2018 Posted April 24, 2018 Just now, oldmanfan said: You insinuate it when you say you want football people handling football things. When he says they have a say it does not mean they are picking the guys. Just that they get to nod their heads and say great. As for Ryan, is there any other team in any professional sport that you know of where the owner does not make the final call on the HC? They did, they were wrong, they fired him, then hired a coach that got their team to the playoffs. Relax. Beane and McDermott are running the football part of the Bills enterprise. The owners have said it, Brandon has said it. Unless you think they're lying. Do they make the final call on a quarterback too? As you have said soooo many times, we don’t know. How would you feel if they pushed Beane away from a Rosen or Mayfield for non football reasons? We don’t know that do we? What we do know is they haven’t taken a step back after screwing up every hire they made when they became owners. The main reason I hated Whaley is because he was spineless and just went with the flow. I’m under the impression Beane is different. If things go sour and we are again hearing about Terry and Kim’s involvement I will be seriously disappointed as a fan. That’s all. I didn’t accuse anyone of lying. If you screw up making decisions that you are paying someone else to make then stop making decisions!
oldmanfan Posted April 24, 2018 Posted April 24, 2018 Just now, Commonsense said: Do they make the final call on a quarterback too? As you have said soooo many times, we don’t know. How would you feel if they pushed Beane away from a Rosen or Mayfield for non football reasons? We don’t know that do we? What we do know is they haven’t taken a step back after screwing up every hire they made when they became owners. The main reason I hated Whaley is because he was spineless and just went with the flow. I’m under the impression Beane is different. If things go sour and we are again hearing about Terry and Kim’s involvement I will be seriously disappointed as a fan. That’s all. I didn’t accuse anyone of lying. If you screw up making decisions that you are paying someone else to make then stop making decisions! The owners and Brandon have said football decisions are the province of the GM and HC. If you want to think they're lying then be paranoid. Fine by me. I am comfortable that Beane and McD are the guys building this team.
26TrapDraw Posted April 24, 2018 Posted April 24, 2018 (edited) 20 hours ago, K-9 said: Enjoyed hearing him talk about their mock process and how he doesn't make any of picks for the Bills or the other teams but instead makes everyone defend their selection. I suspect their mocks closely mirror the mocks in all the other war rooms around the league. I'm also convinced that Beane is totally unaffected by media and fan desires. I get the impression he's going to trust his board, too. So, if the right deal for moving up doesn't materialize, I think he's content with letting the draft come to him. And while I hope he can move up and get a QB he likes, I'm confident he's going to find good players, regardless. I hope so because if he came on TBD read the 4,328 pathetic trade up threads he'd off himself. Edited April 24, 2018 by BeefCurtns
purple haze Posted April 24, 2018 Posted April 24, 2018 9 hours ago, Commonsense said: Name another team that has two owners in the draft room both of whom have a say in who gets picked. The search won’t take too long. Bring in a couple extra chairs let the kids voice their opinions too. I was hoping they would take a backseat after the Rex and Rob circus. They are going to have a say, as they should, but no one has accused them of making any GM pick a specific player. No coach has accused them of demanding certain players play or certain plays are called. The Rex and Rob circus was them taking a back seat. HELLO...
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