Rob Johnson is still bitter after 20 years

[dpberr]

I wish Phillips, Flutie and Johnson would all mend the fence, ESPN does a nice 30/30 on it and Flutie and Johnson lead the charge at a Bills home game.

 

I was convinced the last piece was the necessary piece that had to happen to appease the football gods to end the drought.  The football gods do not approve of a team benching a quarterback for a non-injury reason.  We saw it again when Peterman replaced Taylor in SD last year.  That hubris is severely punished.

 

The fact that RJ still holds onto this in 2018 speaks volumes about why his career didn't go the way he and a lot of people thought it could. 

[formerlyofCtown]

4 hours ago, Sky Diver said:

I’m still bitter we traded for this bum and shafted Flutie.

 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/articles.newyorkupstate.com/buffalo-bills/index.ssf/2017/08/rob_johnson_still_seems_upset_about_losing_buffalo_bills_qb_job_to_doug_flutie.amp

Don't we have this thread every year.

[ExWNYer]

8 hours ago, formerlyofCtown said:

Don't we have this thread every year.

 

A tradition unlike any other...move over Masters...

 

Once a year...

The TBD world gathers...

For a Time Honored Tradition...

Unlike Any Other...

The Annual Flutie vs. Johnson Debate.

 

 

Edited April 23, 2018 by ExWNYer

[Fadingpain]

3 hours ago, 4merper4mer said:

Didn't read the link but the legend of Doug Flutie is false.  He sucked.

That's not really true.

 

He was probably not as great as his supporters suggest, nor nearly as bad as people like you claim.

 

He entered the NFL too late, and he may be one of the very few players, ever, who was genuinely hampered by a measurable such as height.

 

He truly was too short/small a guy.  If you took everything else he had and put it into a 6'4" 225 lb. body, the dude would have been one of the greats.

 

 

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

2 minutes ago, Fadingpain said:

That's not really true.

 

He was probably not as great as his supporters suggest, nor nearly as bad as people like you claim.

 

He entered the NFL too late, and he may be one of the very few players, ever, who was genuinely hampered by a measurable such as height.

 

He truly was too short/small a guy.  If you took everything else he had and put it into a 6'4" 225 lb. body, the dude would have been one of the greats.

 

 

 

 

 

.....he certainly was a legend...just ask 'em...SMH............

[Boatdrinks]

3 hours ago, Sky Diver said:

 

You appear to be forgetting a couple of critical elements of the Miami game.

 

1. Mounds fumbled away a near certain TD on the Miami 12 yrd line after a 65 yrd pass play.

2. Andre Reed bumped the referee after he was called down on Miami’s 1 yrd line and earned an ejection and a 15 yrd penalty. The Bills had to settle for a FG.

3. The Bills committed 9 penalties and had 4 fumbles.

 

Can't have it both ways. Regardless of what transpired earlier in the game, what happened when the game was on the line in the waning moments ? RJ led the team on an apparent game clinching FG completing a critical pass with one shoe. Flutie got strip sacked. 

[PromoTheRobot]

4 hours ago, Sky Diver said:

I’m still bitter we traded for this bum and shafted Flutie.

 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/articles.newyorkupstate.com/buffalo-bills/index.ssf/2017/08/rob_johnson_still_seems_upset_about_losing_buffalo_bills_qb_job_to_doug_flutie.amp

 

Flutie was a fraud.

3 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said:

Can't have it both ways. Regardless of what transpired earlier in the game, what happened when the game was on the line in the waning moments ? RJ led the team on an apparent game clinching FG completing a critical pass with one shoe. Flutie got strip sacked. 

 

It's weird how no one....NO ONE.... remembers how Flutie cost us that Miami playoff game.

Edited April 22, 2018 by PromoTheRobot

[IgotBILLStopay]

I love FLutie as much as the nexy guy, but methinks Rob Johnson would have been treated by the Bills fans way differently if Home Run Throw "forward" did not happen. Wade Philips coached a great game and his decision to bench Flutie for Johnson was fundamentally sound. Let us please be a bit kinder to Rob Johnson.

[The Red King]

3 minutes ago, IgotBILLStopay said:

I love FLutie as much as the nexy guy, but methinks Rob Johnson would have been treated by the Bills fans way differently if Home Run Throw "forward" did not happen. Wade Philips coached a great game and his decision to bench Flutie for Johnson was fundamentally sound. Let us please be a bit kinder to Rob Johnson.

 

Calling a time out with three seconds left on the clock instead of two before kicking the FG, allowing one second for the Miracle to occur is not "coaching a great game".

[Boatdrinks]

18 minutes ago, The Red King said:

 

Calling a time out with three seconds left on the clock instead of two before kicking the FG, allowing one second for the Miracle to occur is not "coaching a great game".

It was 16 seconds and I think they may have decided to kick on 3rd down in case of a botched snap or whatever. I don't think they could run it down any further without a delay of game. 

[Sky Diver]

43 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said:

Can't have it both ways. Regardless of what transpired earlier in the game, what happened when the game was on the line in the waning moments ? RJ led the team on an apparent game clinching FG completing a critical pass with one shoe. Flutie got strip sacked. 

 

Flutie had a 70% winning percentage with Buffalo and Johnson had a 34.5% winning percentage.

[Epstein's Mother]

3 minutes ago, Sky Diver said:

 

Flutie had a 70% winning percentage with Buffalo and Johnson had a 34.5% winning percentage.

 

Both had a 0.0% playoff win percentage

[Sky Diver]

1 minute ago, Epstein's Mother said:

 

Both had a 0.0% playoff win percentage

 

And if it weren’t for Flutie there would have been 0 playoff games.

[Epstein's Mother]

That's absolutely true.

 

Of course we're not exactly arguing between Montana and Young here.

Edited April 22, 2018 by Epstein's Mother

[auburnbillsbacker]

Doug Flutie supporters must love Josh  Allen.  Flutie had a career completion percentage of 54.7%.

[Sky Diver]

4 minutes ago, auburnbillsbacker said:

Doug Flutie supporters must love Josh  Allen.  Flutie had a career completion percentage of 54.7%.

 

I love the 70% winning percentage.

[Boatdrinks]

1 minute ago, The Red King said:

 

It was three seconds.  There is a reason NFL coaches stop the clock at two before end-of-game field goals.  The stated reason for kicking on 3rd and stopping the clock at three seconds was in case of a bad snap.  They absolutely could have stopped it at two.

FG was good with 16 seconds remaining. Just looked it up. They couldn't have gotten it lower. 3 seconds wouldn't be enough in case of a bad snap , most likely. Regardless, they let the game clock run as long as they could without incurring a penalty. 

[The Red King]

3 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said:

FG was good with 16 seconds remaining. Just looked it up. They couldn't have gotten it lower. 3 seconds wouldn't be enough in case of a bad snap , most likely. Regardless, they let the game clock run as long as they could without incurring a penalty. 

 

Yeah, just looked it up as well.  I'll admit I was mistaken, deleted my reply.  I blame old age, or trauma. ;-)

 

Joking aside, it was only 3rd down.  They could have taken it down to two seconds before kicking and chose not to.  Came back to bite them.

[MJS]

3 hours ago, Gugny said:

 

I don't recall this.  I recall him being Montana's imminent replacement and not dividing the locker room while he waited.  I never heard of him wanting to quit football.

 

From his own mouth. Watch A Football Life and some of the other stuff on him.

[Doc Brown]

I think that was an honest assessment of what happened.  I think they were both a-holes for different reasons whose hatred for each other divided the locker room.  The reason the Bills went 10-6 in '98 and 11-5 in '99 was our defense.