Rob Johnson is still bitter after 20 years

[LABILLBACKER]

On 4/22/2018 at 6:54 AM, stony said:

Doug Flutie is/was the master of PR.  He destroyed that locker room but always put his smile on for the cameras.

Sure alot of Bills fans in that locker room that year. Must be nice.....

[Sky Diver]

35 minutes ago, Cynical said:

 

2001 -San Diego. Started all 16 games. Team went 5-2 through the first 7 games, then promptly lost 9 straight to finish 5-11.

That's some kind of winning there.

 

During that 9 game losing stretch, DF threw 8 TDs and 15 picks, including 0 TD, 3 pick performance against the Raiders.

When questioned about the 3 picks, DF blamed the field conditions for one (WR slipped trying to reach back for a poorly thrown ball), a "lazy" DT on a another (DT played contained and plugged the passing lane. DF hit the DT right in the chest), and actually took responsibility for the third.

 

During the same 9 game losing stretch, DF did an interview where his poor play came up.

He denied he was playing poorly,  and could not believe people actually thought he was.

Why? Because he was third in the public portion of the pro bowl voting .

 

 

 

 

1 win in 2000 to 5 wins in 2001. Nice improvement.

[Buffalo86]

On 4/22/2018 at 9:19 AM, Charles Romes said:

Does RJ even know he's the all time NFL leader in sack per drop back percentage - an astonishing 14.8% rate - and that it's not even close for second place.  They had to invent a whole new QBR after he single handedly exposed the sack flaw in the standard rating system. 

 

I can't find any documentation of this, but I'd swear Johnson once commented about taking sacks because it was better for his QB rating than throwing an incompletion.  The way he's still talking about his superior stats, 20 years later, makes it seem pretty likely.

[The Jokeman]

13 hours ago, Sky Diver said:

Rob Johnson career ended in 2003 at the age of 30. Flutie played until 2005 at the age of 43.

Because RJ didn't get to play in the USFL or the CFL to develop his game. At the time I thought RJ was better than Flutie. Looking back I can say he wasn't yet if could do it all over I would have played RJ in 1998 and 1999 to show he wasn't good enough to be our next great QB cause truth is niether one was.

[Sky Diver]

29 minutes ago, The Jokeman said:

Because RJ didn't get to play in the USFL or the CFL to develop his game. At the time I thought RJ was better than Flutie. Looking back I can say he wasn't yet if could do it all over I would have played RJ in 1998 and 1999 to show he wasn't good enough to be our next great QB cause truth is niether one was.

 

He was a back up in Jacksonville for 3 yrs before he went to Buffalo. The Bills traded a 1 and a 4 for him on the basis of one successful start. He was a 4thcrd draft pick. He had a 34% winning percentage with Buffalo and led the league in sacks to dropback ratio.

Edited April 24, 2018 by Sky Diver

[The Jokeman]

7 hours ago, Sky Diver said:

 

He was a back up in Jacksonville for 3 yrs before he went to Buffalo. The Bills traded a 1 and a 4 for him on the basis of one successful start. He was a 4thcrd draft pick. He had a 34% winning percentage with Buffalo and led the league in sacks to dropback ratio.

Yes, you've stated that several times in this thread. My point being with niether of them good enough is had we let RJ play in 1998 and 1999 we could have looked to replace them sooner than later. 

[Sky Diver]

2 hours ago, The Jokeman said:

Yes, you've stated that several times in this thread. My point being with niether of them good enough is had we let RJ play in 1998 and 1999 we could have looked to replace them sooner than later. 

 

Flutie had a 70% winning percentage record with Buffalo. By comparison, Aaron Rodgers' winning percentage with GB is 66.7%.

 

The problem is the Bills way over committed to RJ and were stuck with him even though he stunk. When they turned overt he reins to him in 2001 he went 3 - 13. After that he was gone.

Edited April 24, 2018 by Sky Diver

[Epstein's Mother]

7 minutes ago, Sky Diver said:

 

Flutie had a 70% winning percentage record with Buffalo. By comparison, Aaron Rodgers' winning percentage with GB is 66.7%.

 

The problem is the Bills way over committed to RJ and were stuck with him even though he stunk. When they turned overt he reins to him in 2001 he went 3 - 13. After that he was gone.

 

Now I think I get it.  Flutie > Rodgers. 

[Sky Diver]

2 minutes ago, Epstein's Mother said:

 

Now I think I get it.  Flutie > Rodgers. 

 

Didn't say that.

[Epstein's Mother]

2 minutes ago, Sky Diver said:

 

Didn't say that.

 

I know.  It's called an inference.

[Gugny]

17 minutes ago, Sky Diver said:

 

Flutie had a 70% winning percentage record with Buffalo. By comparison, Aaron Rodgers' winning percentage with GB is 66.7%.

 

The problem is the Bills way over committed to RJ and were stuck with him even though he stunk. When they turned overt he reins to him in 2001 he went 3 - 13. After that he was gone.

 

In 1999, when Futile started 15 games, the Bills had the #2 defense in the league.  In 2001, the Bills had the 29th ranked defense.  But, yeah ... let's say that Flutie is the one who was responsible for the 70% winning percentage and that RJ was responsible for the Bills going 3-13.  That makes sense.

[Sky Diver]

2 minutes ago, Gugny said:

 

In 1999, when Futile started 15 games, the Bills had the #2 defense in the league.  In 2001, the Bills had the 29th ranked defense.  But, yeah ... let's say that Flutie is the one who was responsible for the 70% winning percentage and that RJ was responsible for the Bills going 3-13.  That makes sense.

 

Flutie was 8 - 3 in 1998 and Johnson was 2 - 3. Flutie made the Pro-Bowl that year.

 

Flutie was 10 - 5 in 1999.

 

Flutie was 4 - 1 in 2000, Johnson was 4 - 7.

 

In 2001, Johnson was 3 - 13.

[Gugny]

3 minutes ago, Sky Diver said:

 

Flutie was 8 - 3 in 1998 and Johnson was 2 - 3. Flutie made the Pro-Bowl that year.

 

Flutie was 10 - 5 in 1999.

 

Flutie was 4 - 1 in 2000, Johnson was 4 - 7.

 

In 2001, Johnson was 3 - 13.

 

Pro Bowl.  Heh.  Now, I'm out.  Enjoy your crusade for a QB who played 20 years ago.

[Sky Diver]

Also comeback player of the year in 1998.

[The Jokeman]

8 minutes ago, Sky Diver said:

Also comeback player of the year in 1998.

So what? The 1998 version of Flutie was far better than the 1999 version. As Belechick with the Jets, developed a game plan to limit Doug's effectiveness and/or he just hit a wall. The 1999 offense was less than great and RJ seemingly ignited it in the Colts finale, that's why Ralph wanted RJ in the playoff game against Tennessee. 

Edited April 24, 2018 by The Jokeman

[eball]

Jesus H. Christ on a popsicle stick.  Can the draft please get here?

[Cynical]

13 hours ago, Sky Diver said:

 

1 win in 2000 to 5 wins in 2001. Nice improvement.

 

Hope you did some stretching before you tried to make that reach.

[MILFHUNTER#518]

Rob Johnson is a f***Ing loser why are we wasting oxygen talking about how much this bum sucks?

Edited April 24, 2018 by MILFHUNTER#518
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[Epstein's Mother]

18 minutes ago, MILFHUNTER#518 said:

Rob Johnson is a f***Ing loser why are we wasting oxygen talking about how much this bum sucks?

 

We're not.  We're arguing about how much he sucked.  We don't know what his current suck factor is.

[The Red King]

2 minutes ago, Epstein's Mother said:

 

We're not.  We're arguing about how much he sucked.  We don't know what his current suck factor is.